Long story but i originally lost 140 lbs in about 2 years overall. Sleeve did 100 of it and lots of cardio etc did the rest.

then gradually weight crept back, very slowly at first, grazing, life happened, stopped the extreme exercise, let carbs back in. So 3 months shy of my 5 year surgiversary I had gained 65 back.

I knew I had to fix this or i’d be right back to 315 in no time.

I used the concepts in “Never Binge Again” book (free on kindle) and also Jason Fungs 2016 Obesity Code starting on Jan 1, 2018.

I am now down 22 lbs and know I can get the rest off.

I never “fixed” my insulin problem. I ate too much protein. and so when the extreme exercise ended the weight crept back, the protein and “healthy carbs” encouraged the insulin and thus the cravings that the normal exercise couldn’t burn off.

I am back on track. My sleeve is bigger now but still gets fuller than a regular stomach so it hurts if I eat too much. Reduced ghrelin only helped me for 3 months after surgery.

I am thankful to the sleeve for the first 100 lbs but now it’s all on me and the right choices i make.

I recommend those books if you need to get back on track or even if you are in the euphoric losing stages because eventually you will need to make the right choices without all the early benefits of the surgery.

On 4/4/2018 at 6:43 AM, Teachamy said:

As a Type I diabetic who is on an insulin pump, I can attest to the fact that insulin makes you hungry. The more carbs an insulin-dependent diabetic eats, the more insulin we need to inject. I am leery of the Keto diet. Carbohydrates are not eaten, so the body doesn't need to produce as much insulin, but doesn't skipping breakfast keep the metabolism in sleep mode? (burning less fat) Anohter issue I have, the amount of saturated fat in this diet is obscene. Definitely not lean or heart healthy. All that being said, it often causes people to lose weight, the problem arises when carbs are reintroduced and saturated fats remain in the diet.

Sorry to sound so critical. I just know a lot of people on this diet, and I sometimes worry that some of the science is junk science.

I'm curious about whether you have any experience with taking Metformin? I am not diabetic, but have PCOS and it has been helpful in this respect but problematic in others. I first started taking it in November 2016, after having reached my goal weight in August of that year. I had the VSG in August of 2015. At first I lost eight pounds on Metformin, in part because of the nausea it caused. Then my weight and appetite remained stable for most of 2017 until traveling abroad actually helped me to reach my "dream" goal in December. In January of this year my endocrinologist increased my dosage to 1500 MG a day, and I suddenly would have these tremendous surges in appetite and feel ravenous. I'd shake until I ate something with carbs. I've gained 10 pounds this year. When I told my endocrinologist in April about the weight gain, he wasn't surprised even though most lose weight on it. He said it can cause hypoglycemia and excessive hunger. I've made sure to stock up on healthier snacks so I can grab one and not eat something else in desperation, but am still frustrated.

What snacks do you eat to keep your blood sugar levels in check?

As a Type I diabetic who is on an insulin pump, I can attest to the fact that insulin makes you hungry. The more carbs an insulin-dependent diabetic eats, the more insulin we need to inject. I am leery of the Keto diet. Carbohydrates are not eaten, so the body doesn't need to produce as much insulin, but doesn't skipping breakfast keep the metabolism in sleep mode? (burning less fat) Anohter issue I have, the amount of saturated fat in this diet is obscene. Definitely not lean or heart healthy. All that being said, it often causes people to lose weight, the problem arises when carbs are reintroduced and saturated fats remain in the diet.
Sorry to sound so critical. I just know a lot of people on this diet, and I sometimes worry that some of the science is junk science.

My husband has diabetes and is a type 2. He eats keto WOE and his blood glucose is down, his A1C has improved from 8.7 to 6.5. He is decreasing his insulin intake also. He eats 1 time per day, only when hungry. We don"t eat processed foods. Our clothes are very baggy.

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My husband has diabetes and is a type 2. He eats keto WOE and his blood glucose is down, his A1C has improved from 8.7 to 6.5. He is decreasing his insulin intake also. He eats 1 time per day, only when hungry. We don"t eat processed foods. Our clothes are very baggy.

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I'm a fan of Jason Fung too, I maintain nutritional ketosis and have for a little over a year now. I used this option to lost 40 lbs of regain. Seriously, I started drinking regular pop and grazing and before I knew it the weight was coming back on FAST.

I still have 20 remaining pounds (all right in my middle) to lose before my plastics. I'm aiming for plastics work early next summer. I've also added exercise to my regimen and hoping to see good results in the next 6 months

I am 6 years out and have regained about 40 pounds. I have stopped following the rules and am trying to get back on track. I hate feeling like a failure. I am still trying how to deal with stress without eating. It’s going to take awhile to figure it out.

I started this thread 11 months ago. I am back to report that in May of last year I started gradually falling off my wagon mostly due to the expectations of others and because so many (not here but in real life) mocked my WOL and guilted me and I fell for it. My own fault but it is hard to stay strong and put self first. When you fall off besides weight gain I find that I get depressed eating carbs and sugar and am just not happy at all! It is like a deep dark hole that you don’t know how to get out of it and the vortex of eating for comfort and carbs just keep sucking you in.

I gained about 25 back of the 35 I had lost last spring. I am re reading what I wrote above to get myself back on track with baby steps.

I never read some of these comments before so will comment now that I never had experience with met forum as was never diabetic (though close). When I am a carb eater I do get shakes and ravenous however and “need” a fix or feel nauseous.

I did not want to advertise my “failure” but decided to do so to let anyone reading to feel they are not alone if they also struggle.

Only seeing success stories can be depressing when you are struggling so wanted to let everyone to know to keep fighting the good fight and never give up!

Unsure what you mean by too much protein ?? I didn’t think there was such a thing my goal is between 65-80 ? Thoughts ?

21 hours ago, playlikeworldchamps said:

I started this thread 11 months ago. I am back to report that in May of last year I started gradually falling off my wagon mostly due to the expectations of others and because so many (not here but in real life) mocked my WOL and guilted me and I fell for it. My own fault but it is hard to stay strong and put self first. When you fall off besides weight gain I find that I get depressed eating carbs and sugar and am just not happy at all! It is like a deep dark hole that you don’t know how to get out of it and the vortex of eating for comfort and carbs just keep sucking you in.

I gained about 25 back of the 35 I had lost last spring. I am re reading what I wrote above to get myself back on track with baby steps.

I never read some of these comments before so will comment now that I never had experience with met forum as was never diabetic (though close). When I am a carb eater I do get shakes and ravenous however and “need” a fix or feel nauseous.

I did not want to advertise my “failure” but decided to do so to let anyone reading to feel they are not alone if they also struggle.

Only seeing success stories can be depressing when you are struggling so wanted to let everyone to know to keep fighting the good fight and never give up!

Thank you soooooooooooooooo much for being honest with us!

Prayers of hope and health for you!

On 1/1/2019 at 9:29 PM, Princessjenrn said:

Unsure what you mean by too much Protein ?? I didn’t think there was such a thing my goal is between 65-80 ? Thoughts ?

For me, to lose or keep lbs off, I cannot eat Too much protein. Has to be a balance of good fats, moderate protein and low carbs. Too much protein will stall weight loss.

I am in the same situation. I had considered doing a sleeve revision to give me the restriction again.

You guys should come join us over here on the IF thread! Some of us are low carb, some lower carb still, some do well eating carbs, but most of us posting do IF! We Dr. Fung and others!

Edited January 7, 20197 yr by FluffyChix

On 5/19/2018 at 4:53 AM, Clementine Sky said:

I'm curious about whether you have any experience with taking Metformin? I am not diabetic, but have PCOS and it has been helpful in this respect but problematic in others. I first started taking it in November 2016, after having reached my goal weight in August of that year. I had the VSG in August of 2015. At first I lost eight pounds on Metformin, in part because of the nausea it caused. Then my weight and appetite remained stable for most of 2017 until traveling abroad actually helped me to reach my "dream" goal in December. In January of this year my endocrinologist increased my dosage to 1500 MG a day, and I suddenly would have these tremendous surges in appetite and feel ravenous. I'd shake until I ate something with carbs. I've gained 10 pounds this year. When I told my endocrinologist in April about the weight gain, he wasn't surprised even though most lose weight on it. He said it can cause hypoglycemia and excessive hunger. I've made sure to stock up on healthier Snacks so I can grab one and not eat something else in desperation, but am still frustrated.

What snacks do you eat to keep your blood sugar levels in check?

Type I diabetes and Type II diabetes are virtually different diseases. Type II means insulin resistance, therefore a Type II's body makes insulin, but can't process it. Type I is an auto-immune disease. Our pancreases don't produce insulin (or enough insulin) to survive. So Type I's can't take oral meds. We have to take insulin to produce what our bodies stopped producing. Ultimately, we gain weight the same way as everyone else, too many carbs+ too much insulin=fat. So low-carb snacks are what I recommend. Low carb/no carb is the best diet for diabetics. Your endocrinologist can prescribe something newer than Metformin. You shouldn't have to suffer through bouts of hypoglycemia. If you do, try 4-8 oz. of skim milk or juice to correct it. I'm sure you are worried about the extra calories you have to consume too.