So, my program has me on fruits and veggies and even grain if one can tolerate right from month 2.

I don't do much grain (may be once a week) since I don't like eating it much.

Though based on our outlined eating schedule, we should take 3 to 4 servings of fruits (depending how we tolerate ofc). I don't have any issue with tolerating any ofthe fruits (I don't dump). But ofc if I do that my carbs shoot quite high especially cuz I am vegetarian and I get my protein mostly from dairy (yogurt, milk, cottage cheese and other cheese), which again has significant carbs.

My average net carbs are between 60 to 70 grams.

Anyhow, so I was wondering how did y'all carry your carbs during the weight loss phase? And when did you introduce fruits and veggies in your diet?

I’m ten months out and unless I’m eating a salad? I usually don’t have much room for more than a bite or two of either of those things.
Even by weight loss surgery standards it seems like my volume is really low, but then my diet is a tad different than a normal post op diet (I have kidney issues so the amount of protein they normally want is not actually how much I should consume) .

60 to 70 carbs actually sounds low and most dairy has minimal carbs. Regardless, you don't have to restrict carbs unless you want to or are told to by your doctor.

I really haven't had any fruit to speak of for 3 years. I'm not a big fan of fruit in the first place, but mostly because I focus on the protein I'm full by the time I eat that and I can only get in a couple of forkfuls of a veggie before being done. No room for anything else.

I eat plain yogurt with a few raspberries or chopped dates for breakfast or porridge and homemade stewed apples. Thats my limit. I havent tried anything else yet. I used to love fruit

Hello!

My program has been getting patients up to/over 1200 cals asap. I have been on solid foods since week 4. My program focuses more on texture, and what to have more often vs less often (ie Protein vs say candy).

I have grapes usually everyday, and a small banana. My carbs per day is between 120-150 usually, with 80-107g of protein.

Weight loss is slower now, as I am at 10 months post op...but I have lost 120 lbs thus far, with that amount of carbs and calories pretty much the entire time. I eat potatoes, pasta and rice, and bread....just significantly less and less often than I used to.

Hope that helps!

I have had some berries with greek yoghurt but that's about it. Once I've had my protein and veggies I'm usually done!

18 hours ago, DaisyAndSunshine said:

Anyhow, so I was wondering how did y'all carry your carbs during the weight loss phase? And when did you introduce fruits and veggies in your diet?

I went ultra-low carb (20g net carbs a day), but I’m not vegetarian so it would’ve been easier for me.

This was not my prescribed program, i chose to do this on my own (and fully disclosed it to my NUT).

I didn’t eat any fruit during weight loss phase save for the occasional berry (least amount of sugar in the fruit family). But i do now at 3+ years post op.

You can try google-ing Vegetarian Keto for some food/recipe ideas, but i think that so soon after surgery you may not reach your bariatric protein requirements and stay below your maintenance calories to be true Keto. So maybe a modified version of it?

I think I started eating fruit once I was in the regular food stage which, I believe, started about 6 weeks after surgery. Then my plan called for the following:

Avoid eating over 1000 the first year.

1000 calorie meal plan:
7 meat/protein servings
1 milk serving
3 starch servings
2 fruit servings
2 non starchy veggie servings
2 healthy fat servings

Then it gave page long examples of the types of foods and their serving size for each category. Says for fruit (since you specifically asked about that): Unless otherwise noted below (which it was referring to the large list of fruits on the page) one serving of fruit is 1/2 cup fresh fruit or 1/4 cup of dried fruit.

As of now, and as per my nutritionist (since being in a VERY long stall), I am eating 800 cals a day (sometimes go to 1000), 50 grams of carbs (sometimes under, sometimes over but never more than 75), and 70 grams of protein. However, lately I've been upping my protein greatly, around 100-125 grams a day, and I do believe it's starting to help me break my 2.5+ month long stall.

Edited January 24, 20224 yr by SummerTimeGirl

I was never given a limit for carbs. Just advised to keep my intake low so avoid as possible. (Though I was able to have rolled oats from purée.) I was told to consider fruit & vegetables not as a ‘carb’ but an important source of fibre & essential vitamins & nutrients that were to be eaten after protein if I was able. Plus most veg are pretty low in carbs. Fruit is a little more but still you can’t eat much those first few months.

I started fruit at around the 2 month mark I think. As an afternoon snack but not every day - watermelon (fluid content was a bonus) & strawberries to begin. Added other choices as I progressed. Now I have blueberries every day at breakfast & another serve of fruit (various) a couple of times a week. Fruit is my sugar fix. ? My biggest challenge with fruit is eating it too quickly - all that juicy goodness - then I have discomfort & on some occasions my restriction kicks in which is damn annoying.

I started vegetables from soft food - carrots, celery, onion, tomato & mushrooms in slow cooked soups & stews. Then I added a couple of steamed green beans, cabbage or a cauliflower floret with dinner once on solid food. Now I eat a decent serve of whatever vegetables I want for lunch & dinner.

I eat fruit every day, usually high-fiber fruits like berries. I'm going to respectfully disagree about keeping it under 1000 calories the first year—work this out with your nutritionist and make sure you are fueling what you want your body to do as well as setting yourself up for fat loss.

60-70g of net carbs sounds really low. I track all carbs and don't net out the fiber, but I eat 120g of carbs on "low activity days" and 150g of carbs on "high activity days", plus 60g of fat and 140-150g of protein, for a total of 1580-1740 calories a day. I am four and a half months out.

I had fruits in smoothies pretty early out but I waited a while before having whole fruits because I worried about seeds and skin. A lot of programs introduce fruits and veggies earlier though. Dr wiener who is a surgeon who wrote a couple books on eating for weight loss and weight loss surgery is one that starts fruits and veggies earlier.

1 hour ago, vikingbeast said:

I eat fruit every day, usually high-fiber fruits like berries. I'm going to respectfully disagree about keeping it under 1000 calories the first year—work this out with your nutritionist and make sure you are fueling what you want your body to do as well as setting yourself up for fat loss.

60-70g of net carbs sounds really low. I track all carbs and don't net out the Fiber, but I eat 120g of carbs on "low activity days" and 150g of carbs on "high activity days", plus 60g of fat and 140-150g of Protein, for a total of 1580-1740 calories a day. I am four and a half months out.

Well I have been in a stall since Oct 25th and after sending her (m NUT) my logs of food she pointed out some errors and had me make those adjustments. So far it seems to be working as the scale started moving again since she told me that a few weeks ago. Down 4lbs since. Plus I was just sharing what MY office/plan says to do. Every should follow their own.

Edited January 26, 20224 yr by SummerTimeGirl

20 hours ago, vikingbeast said:

I eat fruit every day, usually high-fiber fruits like berries. I'm going to respectfully disagree about keeping it under 1000 calories the first year—work this out with your nutritionist and make sure you are fueling what you want your body to do as well as setting yourself up for fat loss.

60-70g of net carbs sounds really low. I track all carbs and don't net out the Fiber, but I eat 120g of carbs on "low activity days" and 150g of carbs on "high activity days", plus 60g of fat and 140-150g of Protein, for a total of 1580-1740 calories a day. I am four and a half months out.

Hmmm your numbers are almost double than mine lol.

Though I am just finishing my month 2.

I ahve tried upping my calories, but I usually fall between 750 to 850. I can't go beyond that. Plus with bypass pouch is little smaller than sleeve, so that kinda makes a difference in the quantity.

My carbs are usually similar in number to protein. So between 70 to 80 gram (net would be 50 to 60 usually)!

On 1/23/2022 at 4:21 AM, LaoDaBeirut said:

60 to 70 carbs actually sounds low and most dairy has minimal carbs. Regardless, you don't have to restrict carbs unless you want to or are told to by your doctor.

Dairy isn't as minimal in carbs when you add all together ?

I get most of my protein from dairy - ofc most are light, skim and less than 20%MF, but it still contributes. Veggies also have carbs and so do fruits. So they all add up. But ofc, these carbs are simple carbs per se and have loaded fiber and nutrients. So they healthy enough.

I was just curious about others' carb intake because I don't think I wanna restrict fruits completely.

On 1/23/2022 at 7:06 PM, ms.sss said:

I went ultra-low carb (20g net carbs a day), but I’m not vegetarian so it would’ve been easier for me.

This was not my prescribed program, i chose to do this on my own (and fully disclosed it to my NUT).

I didn’t eat any fruit during weight loss phase save for the occasional berry (least amount of sugar in the fruit family). But i do now at 3+ years post op.

You can try google-ing Vegetarian Keto for some food/recipe ideas, but i think that so soon after surgery you may not reach your bariatric Protein requirements and stay below your maintenance calories to be true Keto. So maybe a modified version of it?

I usually can have some fruits per day. And fruits and veggies are great with fiber, helps relieve constipation. So no issue there. I was just curious how everyone did their thing.

And yeh I am aware of your ultra low carb intake, we had this discussion on another thread. Just not sure how you did it ? I mean how did you manage to get your protein in 400 to 500 calories? Mostly protein shakes?

I can't do Keto. I remember trying it few years before surgery, but I ahve hard time limiting carbs. As in I can't eliminate fruits completely from my diet for a true blue Keto diet (under 20 grams). I don't find Keto as sustainable for me personally. Hence I opted for surgery since it doesn't ask you to restrict any food group per se!