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https://www.rd.com/health/conditions/this-diet-could-stop-cancer-from-spreading/

Whole grains, Beans and fruits important for preventing cancer.

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You know- it’s kind of awful to repeatedly come here and encourage folks to go against the advice of their medical providers.

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6 minutes ago, insta_adventurer said:

You know- it’s kind of awful to repeatedly come here and encourage folks to go against the advice of their medical providers.

My medical provider is 100% on board with my diet. My medical provider is also a leading university teaching hospital. If your medical provider does not agree with my medical provider, there's nothing I can do about that.

We've known about the dangers of low carb diets for along time. Here's an American Harvard study of 120,000 people.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989112/

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I think people get confused by good carbs and bad carbs. Nothing you listed above seems unhealthy to me.

My drs advice after surgery was that as long as I get in 60 grams of Protein there was no restrictions on my diet.

Healthy carbs are good and fiber is good too. Without it I get very stopped up

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On 10/18/2018 at 10:49, Creekimp13 said:





My medical provider is 100% on board with my diet. My medical provider is also a leading university teaching hospital. If your medical provider does not agree with my medical provider, there's nothing I can do about that.




We've known about the dangers of low carb diets for along time. Here's an American Harvard study of 120,000 people.




https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2989112/


And that’s great! But the only thing you seem to come here to do is advocate on behalf of your beloved carbohydrates, as if the rest of don’t know any better and are doing this thing all wrong.

It just seems a bit antagonistic. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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17 minutes ago, insta_adventurer said:

You know- it’s kind of awful to repeatedly come here and encourage folks to go against the advice of their medical providers.

What I think is awful....is how people here are continually encouraged to do what doesn't work.

How many hundreds of posts have we read that go like this:

"I lost all this weight by self denial and will power and eating a very restricted diet....and I'm so sad and disgusted with myself that I put half of it back on. HELP!"

And what do these people routinely get told here?

Go back on your diet that was unsustainable...and didn't work. Try harder. Deny more.

It's crazy. And it's unhealthy to yo-yo.

There is no harm in illustrating a DIFFERENT path supported by science. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

There are and always will be a variety of options and opinions.

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1 minute ago, insta_adventurer said:

It just seems a bit antagonistic.

Only if you're an authoritarian who feels that there are one set of rules that everyone must follow...and that anyone suggesting otherwise is a trouble maker.

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On 10/18/2018 at 11:08, Creekimp13 said:





Only if you're an authoritarian who feels that there are one set of rules that everyone must follow...and that anyone suggesting otherwise is a trouble maker.


I am an authoritarian, I guess. I think a person’s medical team is more knowledgeable about their success than I am. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Also- people who are freshly moved into their glass houses (meaning you’ve been at maintenance for like a second) really should not throw stones about how to successfully not regain or fail.

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I think there are a lot of crappy "bariatric medical teams" out there that are offering really God awful advice that is potentially causing harm and endangering people.

My medical team thinks so, too.

So what do we do about that conundrum?

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True, I've been at maintenance since July...not long at all. Touche. You're right.

And I'm also having a hell of a time keeping my weight up. I'd like to be 170...today the scale says 162.

I have been actively trying to stop my weight loss for three month. Most days I eat 1600 calories, but I try for 1700-1800. That's a LOT of food when you eat mostly fruits and veggies and complex carbs. I'm not a big 'fats' eater and I limit animal Proteins to 3 servings or so a week. I do get 60g of Protein a day....mostly from carbs/plant sources. I also get at least 25g of dietary fiber a day. I avoid dairy. Am currently trying to eat more nuts.

While I want to weigh 170, my team says my body might have other ideas....and to trust my body. This is probably really good advice.

But yeah...part of my focus lately has been arresting my weight loss. My posts probably reflect that.

Believe it or not....there are others who are coping with this issue.

There are a lot of DIFFERENT experiences represented on this board:)

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2 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

Yep, I eat them all. Love them. They're a daily part of my diet. Sometimes multiple times a day.

OMG, they're carbs!

Yep, they are. But they're not refined, over-processed, or bad.

...

You are going hard for carbs lately.

Keep it up.

I think that, in the future, we will look back on our current anti-carb obsession with the same derision as we look back on the anti-fat nonsense of the 1990s. It's a fad. It will pass.

Nutrition science is in its infancy, and every single nutritionist I've ever met, and most I've followed online for any time, have been dogmatic. There are dogmatic vegetarian/vegan nutritionists, dogmatic anti-carb nutritionists (bariatric teams seem to hire them disproportionately often), dogmatic "three meals/no snacks" nutritionists, dogmatic "eat small amounts all day" nutritionists. More than one nutritionist I've had the misfortune to deal with has been entirely ignorant about the research surrounding BMR changes brought on by diet, probably because their paycheck required them to stay ignorant. They all (all of them I've met and nearly all of them whose websites I visit) cherry-pick their sources, ignoring the things they don't want to integrate into their practice.

Nutrition "science," as practiced in client-facing situations, is just survivorship bias writ large. "Well this all works for ME." MEH!

... Hi, I'm CrankyMagpie, and I didn't know I had a rant waiting to get out, but here we are.

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