Ice cream

[shon74 118]

I am 18 days post op, have anyone had ice cream besides the sugar free pops?

[clc9 644]

That's a lot of drastic, expensive, invasive changes to go through to want to eat ice cream 18 days in...

[PatientEleventyBillion 851]

Between this and the guy proud of eating peeps (aka crap)...

[blizair09 3,250]

Really?

[HeatherS. 230]

48 minutes ago, shon74 said:

I am 18 days post op, have anyone had ice cream besides the sugar free pops?

For goodness sakes. Please ignore the overly righteous rude replies you're getting. It's a thing whenever someone mentions food that doesn't fit a strict plan.

My my doctor took the view that this is for life, and life requires some flexibility. He then encouraged me to enjoy my birthday cake that would be coming up after surgery.

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The OCCASIONAL treat, given how small it will necessarily be, is probably ok for many of us. Only you know what other issues you have (diabetes, for example, makes some foods highly inadvisable, for instance).

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That said, I have had, since surgery, about 50 calories worth of a truly delicious locally made sorbet without incident, a 20 calorie bite of my wife's ice cream sandwich (apparently it tastes like cheese to me now. Ew), a small scoop of lactaid ice cream when I was having trouble getting and keeping anything at all down, and have tried live active culture frozen yogurt (which comes sugar free, low fat, etc) with no complaints from my stomach. Does it sound like a lot? It's not. But then, I have no insulin-related disorders and each portion has been very small and fit within my own plan.

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My calories have been on the low end of the range where they need to be, and my nutrition looks good so far. So everyone on my team is fine with that.

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My main point is that you and your team know your nutritional and medical situation way better than strangers on the internet. My secondary point is that yes, yes, I have tried other iced things since surgery with no adverse effects on my sleeve or weight loss. My tertiary point is that you need to find a way to eat WITH your sleeve that you can stick to and maintain a healthy weight with for the rest of your life.

[blizair09 3,250]

4 minutes ago, HeatherS. said:

For goodness sakes. Please ignore the overly righteous rude replies you're getting. It's a thing whenever someone mentions food that doesn't fit a strict plan.

My my doctor took the view that this is for life, and life requires some flexibility. He then encouraged me to enjoy my birthday cake that would be coming up after surgery.

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The OCCASIONAL treat, given how small it will necessarily be, is probably ok for many of us. Only you know what other issues you have (diabetes, for example, makes some foods highly inadvisable, for instance).

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That said, I have had, since surgery, about 50 calories worth of a truly delicious locally made sorbet without incident, a 20 calorie bite of my wife's ice cream sandwich (apparently it tastes like cheese to me now. Ew), a small scoop of lactaid ice cream when I was having trouble getting and keeping anything at all down, and have tried live active culture frozen yogurt (which comes sugar free, low fat, etc) with no complaints from my stomach. Does it sound like a lot? It's not. But then, I have no insulin-related disorders and each portion has been very small and fit within my own plan.

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My calories have been on the low end of the range where they need to be, and my nutrition looks good so far. So everyone on my team is fine with that.

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My main point is that you and your team know your nutritional and medical situation way better than strangers on the internet. My secondary point is that yes, yes, I have tried other iced things since surgery with no adverse effects on my sleeve or weight loss. My tertiary point is that you need to find a way to eat WITH your sleeve that you can stick to and maintain a healthy weight with for the rest of your life.

I am sorry. If you are already asking about ice cream at DAY 18 POST-OP, that is an issue. I get that everyone isn't going to follow directions to the letter. I get that everyone is fallible. I get that this is hard. But it is irresponsible to act like it isn't foreshadowing real issues when someone is asking a question like that when the freaking surgery wasn't even 3 weeks ago...

[Blater 17]

OP don't be shamed for asking this question. I have had ice-cream since my surgery. My one and only dumping episode was on sugar free ice cream.

Be careful not to slide back into bad habits. It's an incredibly difficult road ahead.

Good luck on your journey and keep asking

Edited April 15, 2017 by Blater

[HeatherS. 230]

Just now, blizair09 said:

I am sorry. If you are already asking about ice cream at DAY 18 POST-OP, that is an issue. I get that everyone isn't going to follow directions to the letter. I get that everyone is fallible. I get that this is hard. But it is irresponsible to act like it isn't foreshadowing real issues when someone is asking a question like that when the freaking surgery wasn't even 3 weeks ago...

It's been my experience that people who begin with "I'm sorry, but -" or similar aren't sorry at all.

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What is a problem food for one may not be a problem food for others, so I choose to answer the question asked without making further assumptions as there are more reasons to consume various forms of frozen dairy than the presumed (condescending, insulting) desire to pig out on sweets, which I assume is not OP's intent, having just gone through a major operation to restrict caloric intakes in order to reclaim health.

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We don't know why OP asked the question. And we don't know if they're thinking of Haagen Daaz or low fat sugar free fro-yo (which is actually good for many of our meal plans) or even Eggface's high Protein ice cream which looks like a valid alternative to shakes. (A very attractive alternative if they, like me, are prone to sore throats in the spring due to allergies)

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But we can assume all of us here know that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counter productive.

[Middus 491]

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[clc9 644]

But we can assume all of us here know that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counter productive.

Honestly given the things I've read of people eating here early days after surgery, I absolutely don't think we can. I won't list them to not embarrass anyone, but it can be mind boggling. It's not safe to assume anything about what anyone thinks is destructive or counter productive.

I don't think surgery means never having ice cream again. But 18 days out? To say anything that encourages backsliding that early to foods that got us to qualify for this surgery in the first place would be irresponsible.

[Middus 491]

I am 18 days post op, have anyone had ice cream besides the sugar free pops?

You might need to expatiate a bit further on the type of Ice cream you are thinking of eating, if said ice cream is in your meal plans, and whether the desire os driven by a craving (head hunger) or whether you're stuck on ice-cream.

There are a few psychologists here that know everyone's story based on the questions they ask.

As I am not an Ice cream guru (never really liked it) I will advice preemptively that you check whatever you're eating for the carb content, Protein content and calories. It's best to shun things that pack carbs, and consume a lot of Protein. I hope you will get better answers.

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[blizair09 3,250]

28 minutes ago, HeatherS. said:

It's been my experience that people who begin with "I'm sorry, but -" or similar aren't sorry at all.

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What is a problem food for one may not be a problem food for others, so I choose to answer the question asked without making further assumptions as there are more reasons to consume various forms of frozen dairy than the presumed (condescending, insulting) desire to pig out on sweets, which I assume is not OP's intent, having just gone through a major operation to restrict caloric intakes in order to reclaim health.

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We don't know why OP asked the question. And we don't know if they're thinking of Haagen Daaz or low fat sugar free fro-yo (which is actually good for many of our meal plans) or even Eggface's high Protein ice cream which looks like a valid alternative to shakes. (A very attractive alternative if they, like me, are prone to sore throats in the spring due to allergies)

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But we can assume all of us here know that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counter productive.

If this was a person who was at least through the post-op food stages, that might be one thing, but this person hasn't even hit 3 weeks post-op yet. I've been around here long enough to know that if someone was asking about some kind of somewhat-appropriate ice-cream treat (e.g., Halo, Eggface's stuff, etc.), they would have mentioned it by name.

Also, it is not safe to assume the everyone on this site knows "that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counterproductive." Have you read some of the things people say on here?

[Middus 491]

I am sorry. If you are already asking about ice cream at DAY 18 POST-OP, that is an issue. I get that everyone isn't going to follow directions to the letter. I get that everyone is fallible. I get that this is hard. But it is irresponsible to act like it isn't foreshadowing real issues when someone is asking a question like that when the freaking surgery wasn't even 3 weeks ago...

The thing is that 2 weeks after surgery, I kept having dreams in which i mistakenly advanced my meal plan. Then I developed ridiculous cravings and all.

I am quite glad I didn't ask a single question about them. Lest I face a barrage of eye rolling and cynical insults disguised as advice.

Perhaps the person is not familiar with "head hunger" . Funny enough I checked my plan and saw Breyers bariatric ice-cream in it..

What if the person was asking about said ice cream?

What if it is even. A troll post by someone trying to start something?

My point is that the post is too short to come to definite conclusions about. Perhaps we pry the OP for more responses before we arrive at better conclusions?

Just to add, I am a fan!! Your weightloss inspires me!!

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[Layma 30]

Yes. Two table spoons and it was delicious. Just know when to stop. If you deprive yourself, you will lose control and eat more than you want.

[HeatherS. 230]

38 minutes ago, clc9 said:

Honestly given the things I've read of people eating here early days after surgery, I absolutely don't think we can. I won't list them to not embarrass anyone, but it can be mind boggling. It's not safe to assume anything about what anyone thinks is destructive or counter productive.

I don't think surgery means never having ice cream again. But 18 days out? To say anything that encourages backsliding that early to foods that got us to qualify for this surgery in the first place would be irresponsible.

That's the thing I'm getting at in a roundabout way. Not all of us got here by eating the WRONG things. I got here by always being hungry and (simplified) eating nutritiously but too much. The surgery stopped that the moment I woke up.

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There are assumptions being made that we all got here one way and that doesn't help very much.

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All OP even asked was IF anyone had had those foods after surgery and what their experience was. For all we know, they're thinking about a trip planned back home in August and reminiscing about the local ice cream parlor. We just don't know. Anything other than "yeah I have/no I haven't, and here's what happened" involves assumptions we're not qualified to make.

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I do understand where you're coming from about some people self-sabotaging either willingly or through ignorance, but I don't think public shaming is the way to fix that. If public shaming worked, none of us would have needed to resort to surgery.