I have been reading with alarm several posts from people lately who have recently had surgery and don't seem to have gotten the message about how important Protein is to their healing and their weight loss.

It is as if a whole group have completely skipped any nutrition education and think that it is ok to starve themselves.

Protein is critical (a minimum of 80-100 grams, depending on your surgeon's recommendation for your specific needs)

Fluid is critical (at least 64 oz.).

You do not get bonus points for not reaching those goals. In fact, it will slow your weight loss and healing.

(Climbing down off of my soap box for now.)

My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

of course you are! but this is an internet forum we are participating in, so it is only natural that we would discuss these things? At the end of the day I am going to listen to my team (I am paying them for their advice after all!) discuss with my peer group (my LOVELY friends here #1) and then sort out what is going to be best for me.

there was more than one person on here on many threads advocating what I think are really dangerous practices - so, here we are discussing. it's good!

It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

But if I dare to try to drink 2 shakes, and enough protien to reach 70 or 80g I feel sick like I wana puke! I just can't do it... not right now at least.

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My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

of course you are! but this is an internet forum we are participating in, so it is only natural that we would discuss these things? At the end of the day I am going to listen to my team (I am paying them for their advice after all!) discuss with my peer group (my LOVELY friends here #1) and then sort out what is going to be best for me.

there was more than one person on here on many threads advocating what I think are really dangerous practices - so, here we are discussing. it's good!

Discussion is one thing. The OP basically berrated anyone who dared to not get the Protein that HER team recommends. Thats not discussion

It was insulting and suggested i have no idea , nor does my surgeon about my health and healing because he does not want me focusing on high Protein but instead on all nutrients

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It's the intranet people...the only way to fit in everything your guidelines say to, is to stretch your pouch to max while on pain killers. I did not do this so i do not take in the amount anyone wants me to and in still alive. I also ditched my pain killers as soon as possible because i don't like being on them...my demons in the past

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Discussion is one thing. The OP basically berrated anyone who dared to not get the Protein that HER team recommends. Thats not discussion

Oh, well I see your perspective. I don't think she was berating - she stated her feelings strongly, but some of those posts yesterday, YEESH. scary. I felt a certain amount of distress, and I reckon she did too.

It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz Protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

But if I dare to try to drink 2 shakes, and enough protien to reach 70 or 80g I feel sick like I wana puke! I just can't do it... not right now at least.

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in the early days it is all just sip sip sip and walk walk walk. you just keep trying each day and then one day the swelling goes down, and it gets a lot easier.

It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

Of course a single shake and that little Water is not enough, but to assume that everyone has benn told they must get 80g of protein a day etc is ridiculous. My surgeon focuses on good nutrition from day one, that includes all food groups and not a focus simply on one macro.

My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

Your response was so rude and almost childish. If you prefer to listen to him, then why join the forum?

While you should heed what he says, his body hasn't been through what yours has. Also noone stated that what they said was law, just gave tips on how to approach getting in liquids and protein.

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It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

Of course a single shake and that little Water is not enough, but to assume that everyone has benn told they must get 80g of protein a day etc is ridiculous. My surgeon focuses on good nutrition from day one, that includes all food groups and not a focus simply on one macro.

My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

Your response was so rude and almost childish. If you prefer to listen to him, then why join the forum?

While you should heed what he says, his body hasn't been through what yours has. Also noone stated that what they said was law, just gave tips on how to approach getting in liquids and protein.

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I responded to the OP in the fashion they wrote the original post.

While i agree most surgeons have not been through surgery it us just as damaging to say you should be getting x amount of protein per day. This amount is very dependent on the individual and there are risks to having too much protein in your diet

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I'm 17 days post op...I was educated on the importance, but struggle everyday reaching the goals. Not because I don't try though. Open to any suggestions!

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Isopure clear Protein drinks

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I'm 17 days post op...I was educated on the importance, but struggle everyday reaching the goals. Not because I don't try though. Open to any suggestions!

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What are you having the most difficulty with?

One thing that helped me was to set short-term goals/milestones (for instance, drink 4 oz when you get up in the morning, another 4 oz for Breakfast, etc.). You can set amounts and time frames based on what you can do.

It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

Of course a single shake and that little Water is not enough, but to assume that everyone has benn told they must get 80g of protein a day etc is ridiculous. My surgeon focuses on good nutrition from day one, that includes all food groups and not a focus simply on one macro.

My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

Your response was so rude and almost childish. If you prefer to listen to him, then why join the forum?

While you should heed what he says, his body hasn't been through what yours has. Also noone stated that what they said was law, just gave tips on how to approach getting in liquids and protein.

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I responded to the OP in the fashion they wrote the original post.

While i agree most surgeons have not been through surgery it us just as damaging to say you should be getting x amount of protein per day. This amount is very dependent on the individual and there are risks to having too much protein in your diet

I didn't prescribe x amount for you. I based it on what I see most good surgeon's recommend. The amount is based on your needs. But, I am guessing it isn't 30 grams a day. 60 is on the low side for most recommendations I have seen (consequently, many of those folks are the ones who seem to have the most trouble with slow weight loss).

If you are following your surgeon's orders (and they are reasonable), then I wasn't talking about you.

@@eclecticwingtips The OP did say depending on your surgeon's recommendations for your situation. This thread was in reaction to advice given by a new post-op to others that was extremely unhealthy and bordering an eating disorder.

It is important to realise not everyones team has the same goals. My surgeon focuses on balance nutrition, Protein, veg, fruit snd grains NOT high protein. While i do aim for reasonable pritein in my diet it is not my sole focus like many here

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I hope every surgeon has the goal of making sure you heal and don't have any complications post-op.

A balanced diet is a great goal down the road, but right after surgery protein and fluids are critical --- even if it is hard, or you don't have an appetite, or don't like the taste, etc.

One 11 oz protein shake spread out over three days and less than 8 oz of Fluid a day is not enough for anyone post-op. I can't imagine any surgeon advocating that diet as a good strategy for anyone.

SMH

Of course a single shake and that little Water is not enough, but to assume that everyone has benn told they must get 80g of protein a day etc is ridiculous. My surgeon focuses on good nutrition from day one, that includes all food groups and not a focus simply on one macro.

My surgeon is highly skilled and respected where i live and id prefer to listen to him than those on forums in regards to my best interests post op

Your response was so rude and almost childish. If you prefer to listen to him, then why join the forum?

While you should heed what he says, his body hasn't been through what yours has. Also noone stated that what they said was law, just gave tips on how to approach getting in liquids and protein.

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I responded to the OP in the fashion they wrote the original post.

While i agree most surgeons have not been through surgery it us just as damaging to say you should be getting x amount of protein per day. This amount is very dependent on the individual and there are risks to having too much protein in your diet

Ithink you took it the wrong way. I read it and was glad for the information. This is the type of situation that warrants tough love. I've come across some posts here and elsewhere that really leave me concerned. Where people try to make excuses for what they eat and drink.

This forum has been very helpful for me and I'm only pre-op. I've come to value the input and comments from others.

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@@Inner Surfer Girl,

Thanks for the reminder. I agree with your points. A lot of people don’t seem to realize how important Protein is. The requirements your surgeon or nutritionist tell you aren’t a goal or a best-case scenario. They’re requirements! And, like you said, no bonus points for not hitting them! That’s a great way of putting it.

Water, too. I think sometimes water is even more under-recognized and under-emphasized than protein, but it’s just as important as protein, if not more. It’s more important if you’re concerned about things like life and death, and not ending up in the emergency room from dehydration.

Thanks for the reminder. It was a good reason to get up on your soapbox.