I have been reading with alarm several posts from people lately who have recently had surgery and don't seem to have gotten the message about how important Protein is to their healing and their weight loss.

It is as if a whole group have completely skipped any nutrition education and think that it is ok to starve themselves.

Protein is critical (a minimum of 80-100 grams, depending on your surgeon's recommendation for your specific needs)

Fluid is critical (at least 64 oz.).

You do not get bonus points for not reaching those goals. In fact, it will slow your weight loss and healing.

(Climbing down off of my soap box for now.)

Teapot -- you're used to what you're used to.

But you can get used to new things.

And that's what WLS success is all about -- doing things differently in the future.

IMHO.

Wondering if you can have too much Protein at once? I made my Protein shake this morning and it had 49g of protein. I used unjury chocolate splendor fairlife 2% milk and oikos triple zero coffee yogurt.

http://asmbs.org/patients/life-after-bariatric-surgery

Q: How much protein do I need daily?

A: Most patients get 60-80 grams daily, but some may require more depending on their response to surgery or their type of operation. Your dietitian can provide more detailed information.

Q: Can I take all of the protein in one dose?

A: Protein should be taken in multiple doses, across multiple meals or healthy Snacks. The body cannot absorb more than approximately 30 grams at once. Also, protein is a nutrient that helps us feel fuller, longer. If we try to include Proteins in each of our meals or healthy snacks, we’re less likely to feel hungry when it’s not time to eat.

Excess of 30g in a hour is just wasted by your body.

@teapot

As you lose weight your bladder will have more room in your torso and be able to hold more, so drinking more won't necessarily mean you are urinating more in the long term.

Edited May 17, 201610 yr by OutsideMatchInside

@@OutsideMatchInside thank you!

The Very Real Risks of Consuming Too Much Protein

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/09/03/too-much-protein.aspx

Edited May 17, 201610 yr by xochtlem

@@Teapot Fluids are important regardless of stage. You should always try for 64ozs a day. It doesn't have to be just water though.

So I'm curious about the Water intake recommendations. I've never been much of a water drinker and on a good day I might get 32oz in.

I understand post-op during recovery you might need more for healing and to get things going, but what about during maintenance? Do they want you to drink 64 oz of water daily forever? I just can't go to the bathroom that frequently at my job, lol!

We all need AT LEAST 64 oz of Fluid whether we have surgery or not. We do get some fluid from foods, so pre-op you will get some if you are eating a lot of fresh food.

Post-op, you will get less from food so you definitely need to stay on top of the water.

Hey that's a great question! Somewhere I read your body can only process a certain amount of Protein at a time. Veterans, any insight?

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Edited May 18, 201610 yr by jaxmom

ASMBS would be the authority and they have it on their website.

http://asmbs.org/patients/life-after-bariatric-surgery

My Doctor told me the same thing, aim for 20 at a time and no more than 30, the body can only absorb so much. Same reason why you don't take all your supplements at the same time.

Teapot. Make sure you get the Water as well for your bowel movements. Trust me. Not fun!

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I have been reading with alarm several posts from people lately who have recently had surgery and don't seem to have gotten the message about how important protein is to their healing and their weight loss.

It is as if a whole group have completely skipped any nutrition education and think that it is ok to starve themselves.

Protein is critical (a minimum of 80-100 grams, depending on your surgeon's recommendation for your specific needs)

Fluid is critical (at least 64 oz.).

You do not get bonus points for not reaching those goals. In fact, it will slow your weight loss and healing.

(Climbing down off of my soap box for now.)

I agree/disagree. I am three years out and I still can't always meet my protein/water requirements. I couldn't even come close for the first year + and my surgeon only advised 64-80gr of protein.

I did the best I could, healed like a champ and reached goal with a 110+ pound weight loss in 9 months.

I do agree that you should do protein first and that protein is key in healing and loss, but I am not sure that you have to reach such high numbers to succeed/heal.

Yep, I agree. I had a talk with my NUT about my crazy week (see: http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/368141-i-think-i-should-have-learned-something/)

She reminded me that nutrition is a long term game, "not just one and done." This is why I track. I know some days will be 80g of protein, some will be 120 and some 100. But when I look across a week I can see a trend. But when I see an aberration and see how it fits into the bigger picture this is helpful.

You see there are some days when I see major calorie/protein deficit, but the next day there is some extra, and two days later there is a little more, but it stops. Mainly because I remind myself in writing.

OK I have to chime in. Most Mexican surgeons recommend no protein for the first week. Only broths and clear sugar free clear fluids, second week add protein shakes and creamy soups, third week add mushy foods, fourth week chicken and fish as tolerated. I did feel as though I was STARVING the first week. I read on this forum US doctors were allowing protein shakes the first week. So at night I would mix 2oz shake with 2oz water and tolerated it well (at day 5) and I didn't die. LOL It sucks that some people feel like they are starving. I think those patients need to call their NUT right away. There are no hard fast rules. Its what your body can tolerate within reason without using food too soon.

Hi everyone, I have 2 questions I'm hoping to find answers for.

1) Do I need to worry about sucralose being in my protein shake? I have read in a couple of places that you should find one that has none of that in it.

2) PLEASE suggest flavored waters that I can drink. I am 13 months post op and have lost 120 lbs., but I never get enough water because I HATE drinking plain water. It would be great to find a flavored one that also has protein. Any and all suggestions greatly needed!!

Thanks much,

Cassie

Im truthful I dont get enough protein at all. I told myself I will start tomorrow for sure. Ive had a few complications and it has thrown me off tracks completely

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One trick for me to get more water is to put a flavored tea bag in my bottle of water. Decaf or Lipton or orange. Anything to change just water. I don't heat the water up .. I just toss it in.

Truly. Water is one of the hardest goals for me.

I include my coffee in the amount of liquids daily also.

Most additives have a funky taste to me ( and I'm not sure what is in them)so I don't use the drops or packets.

Hope you can search around and find a way to get your fluids in.

We must remember also that we all may not have had the same surgery. Kinda hard to drink a huge amount of anything when you have a tiny pouch. I am not going to force anything. Today I am trying to drink a whole shake I had some for breakfast some for lunch and I am trying to drink more for dinner. But that made me have no room for anything else. I am to full and I have half a glass left! So unless I am going to be on a liquid shake only diet. This is not going to work for me. I want to have my soup.

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If you can have room for your "soup" then you have room for protein shakes which have much more protein. I know you had bypass, but after 3 weeks you can certainly drink three shakes ins day. You just have to work at it.

I'm two weeks out and I force myself to complete one can of pure protein shake in a day which is 35 grm of protein. Between trying to get through that can and getting my water in I am crazy full

So to say a person can drink 3 in a day at 3 weeks is hard to believe.

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