I don't care: A Michael Jackson Rant

[BethFromVA 5]

I have the right to stand up for the other side. I'm sorry if this was just meant to be a bashing post with no opposition! For crying out loud. I am entitled to my opinion as are you!

But you're bitching about the bashing.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Rodriguez, it's a RANT thread. If you don't like how it comes across, there's this little button called NEXT that you can find something more to your liking.

Again I didn't say that I didn't like how it was coming across or not...I simply said that is how it was coming across and it was a civil discussion until you came in here making personal attacks towards me. Grow up!

[Gone4Now 4]

Kat, I'm sorry about your brother! That must be very tough. My ex-boss had a son who was in his 30's but mentally wasn't past 3 years old. He still wet his bed, and really didn't KNOW he wasn't age 3. It was definitely tougher on his parents than on him, and they knew that he couldn't have friends like normal kids do.

Although, since he was so young mentally, it was often fun for them because holidays stayed magical. :thumbdown:

I think if DD got stuck at this pre-teen crappy age she's at now, I'd go nuts.

[BethFromVA 5]

Why are you attacking me...Those parents gave permission!

Who's attacking you? I asked you:

"But he WASN'T a little boy, he was a grown man!

So... would you let any 40-something man sleep in bed with your kid/s during a slumber party? Forget that it's Michael Jackson... would you let ANY grown man sleep in bed with your kid/s??"

That was based on your comment:

"He thought he was a little boy...there was nothing dirty about him sleeping in a bed with kids when they were having a sleep over!"

I think your sentiment is foolish. I questioned you legitimately as to whether you would allow your child/ren to sleep with some neighbor guy during a sleepover. In what was is that attacking you?

Trust me, if I was attacking you, you'd know it. And thus far I have bitten my tongue with your comments to the point of drawing blood.

[Gone4Now 4]

Yeah, Beth...GAWD, grow up.

Creepy pervs are totally IN now.

[BethFromVA 5]

Again I didn't say that I didn't like how it was coming across or not...I simply said that is how it was coming across and it was a civil discussion until you came in here making personal attacks towards me. Grow up!

I'll let your age and inability to read what's being said speak for itself.

[Gone4Now 4]

I'm actually interested to know, too: Would anyone here give permission for their kids to sleep in the grown neighbor's bed?

It was my impression, and vague memory - I'm sure a fan will correct me with actual facts, not just a slap-and-run "screw you" - but didn't the parents NOT know he was sleeping with them at the sleep overs? It was Neverland Ranch, and as a parent I still wouldn't have cared, but I also don't think I would have suspected that there wouldn't have been a guest room.

[BethFromVA 5]

Yeah, Beth...GAWD, grow up.

Creepy pervs are totally IN now.

Yeah, I know... I still hold onto this old-fashioned notion that creepy chimp-loving, mask-wearing, baby-dangling, crotch-grabbing pervs should not be sleeping with other people's children. Guess I need to grow up and get with the program.

[ColoradoChick 33]

Yeah, Beth...GAWD, grow up.

Creepy pervs are totally IN now.

Beth will never grow up! She posts like this on every thread!

Good grief! I imagine in person she is a really juvenile!

Unfortunately, There are plenty of child predators in this world. I don't like any of them either so I am not just picking on MJ.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Who's attacking you? I asked you:

"But he WASN'T a little boy, he was a grown man!

So... would you let any 40-something man sleep in bed with your kid/s during a slumber party? Forget that it's Michael Jackson... would you let ANY grown man sleep in bed with your kid/s??"

That was based on your comment:

"He thought he was a little boy...there was nothing dirty about him sleeping in a bed with kids when they were having a sleep over!"

I was saying that in his mind it was n't dirty or creepy to him..

I think your sentiment is foolish. I questioned you legitimately as to whether you would allow your child/ren to sleep with some neighbor guy during a sleepover. In what was is that attacking you?

I don't let my son stay a night away from me with ANYONE

Trust me, if I was attacking you, you'd know it. And thus far I have bitten my tongue with your comments to the point of drawing blood.

I have done nothing to cause anyone to have to "bite their tongues" I have just offered my side of the discussion!

[BethFromVA 5]

I'm actually interested to know, too: Would anyone here give permission for their kids to sleep in the grown neighbor's bed?

It was my impression, and vague memory - I'm sure a fan will correct me with actual facts, not just a slap-and-run "screw you" - but didn't the parents NOT know he was sleeping with them at the sleep overs? It was Neverland Ranch, and as a parent I still wouldn't have cared, but I also don't think I would have suspected that there wouldn't have been a guest room.

And don't forget the "happy juice" (wine) he was feeding them. Or the secret room. Oh, and I just got reminded about the buzzers that went off in the hallway as people approached his bedroom (the one where the secret room was off of). Or the cameras. Yes, all very innocent. *roll eyes*

Edited June 26, 2009 by BethFromVA

[rodriguezequal 3]

Please just stop. Go about you bashing of MJ, but please stop making fun of me. It's sad and disgusting! I didn't even do anything that would justify being picked on. Please just stop!

[BethFromVA 5]

I was saying that in his mind it was n't dirty or creepy to him.

Because... you read minds? :thumbdown:

[BethFromVA 5]

Please just stop. Go about you bashing of MJ, but please stop making fun of me. It's sad and disgusting! I didn't even do anything that would justify being picked on. Please just stop!

Darlin', you're not even on my radar. Who's talking about you anymore? I asked you questions, you claimed I was bashing you, then you admitted that you wouldn't let your son sleep with anyone. Yet somehow Michael was an innocent little man-child. It's over.

[rodriguezequal 3]

Because... you read minds? :thumbdown:

I watched the interview about it and he said that it wasn't like that, that sharing your bed with people you love is one of the greatest things you can do...to him it was innocent...in his mind. I am not arguing that he wasn't troubled,,,he was we all are to some extent in different ways. I went a different way then he did. I was abused/raped/molested when I was younger and it caused me to grow up fast instead of "staying young"...we all handle things differently and not all of them are the right choices.