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So whilst there was something about myself I wanted to change, it was not self loathing, not at all. Wanting to make the most of yourself is called self RESPECT!

Its an important distinction to make, it wasnt ME I didnt like, it was my BEHAVIOUR!

I agree with that. I don't hate myself, I just hate the fact that I let myself get so unhealthy. Two totally different things.

Why attack a thread where we're discussing self esteem in a Mental Health support group which was started for those of us who have issues with weight relative to "mental health issues"?

It takes two people to argue. Just sayin...

Here's my two cents.

I didn't read anywhere on this thread where Jachut made derogatory comments about fat people. She stated HER experience and thoughts about HER life as being fat, no one else's. I don't get why you were so defensive about HER experience. She said that she was lazy, unmotivated, and careless as a fat person and she said that not all fat people were that way. So, I didn't take any of that as being derogatory or insensitive to others. I'm confused as to why you felt the need to argue her first two posts :redface:.

The question of whether or not an obese/overweight person can have good self-esteem is going to vary from person to person. It all depends on how you feel about yourself. Do I think it's possible? Yes. Am I there? Not quite, but I'm getting there. It's getting better and better as I lose weight.

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i posted a post here and i dont see it anywhere lol or was it another post im so lost LOL

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i posted a post here and i dont see it anywhere lol or was it another post im so lost LOL

Leave it to you Froggi to get lost in this place, LOL. I saw a few posts you made on the first page. Did you post another one recently or something?

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I have no idea i got lost LOL

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I agree with that. I don't hate myself, I just hate the fact that I let myself get so unhealthy. Two totally different things.

It takes two people to argue. Just sayin...

Here's my two cents.

I didn't read anywhere on this thread where Jachut made derogatory comments about fat people. She stated HER experience and thoughts about HER life as being fat, no one else's. I don't get why you were so defensive about HER experience. She said that she was lazy, unmotivated, and careless as a fat person and she said that not all fat people were that way. So, I didn't take any of that as being derogatory or insensitive to others. I'm confused as to why you felt the need to argue her first two posts :redface:.

The question of whether or not an obese/overweight person can have good self-esteem is going to vary from person to person. It all depends on how you feel about yourself. Do I think it's possible? Yes. Am I there? Not quite, but I'm getting there. It's getting better and better as I lose weight.

I myself edit my posts, usually due to spelling errors as I was a typist for many years and it's just a habit, I don't use spell check here and so time to time I'll see a stupid error I've made and I'll edit it out.

FYI

I responded to a heated response from Jachut and then when I came back to read more posts she had edited out some pertinent material so as to not look as mean, I'm only assuming! An example, if you trust my honesty "utter twaddle" was used and if you were to look I don't think you'll see it in her post.

Then she completely removed it, except for the first and last sentence and wrote something that I never would have responded to like that.

I guess the joke is on me, I've learned from that and now know if you're going to respond to some nasty post make sure you ALWAYS place it in quotations first or you'll get screwed in the end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol: brandyII

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cheese makes my self esteem happy :redface:

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Which post did she change or remove, was it her third one?

Post #16, you can see where she origonally typed it at 11:15 PM and then it was last edited at 11:57.

She's not denying she did it but it's kind of unfair to change it like that (twice) and make me look like the bad guy or a bit nutty:drool:, am I wrong?

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lol cutting the cheese makes my tummy happy eating the cheese makes my self esteem happy lol

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i dunno i dont go underwater and stare at frogs to see if they snap at bubbles o.O

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Post #16, you can see where she origonally typed it at 11:15 PM and then it was last edited at 11:57.

She's not denying she did it but it's kind of unfair to change it like that (twice) and make me look like the bad guy or a bit nutty:drool:, am I wrong?

Okay, to me, it seemed you were defensive before that post. After her second post (post #11) you said because she was at goal, she felt it was okay to make derogatory comments about fat people and you accused her of being self-loathing before that. Heck, that would make me heated too because that is not what she said! I think that is where this started getting ugly. Is saying that she was lazy as a fat person implying that you or anyone else is? I don't think so. At 330 lbs, I was lazy and I admit it. What's wrong with that?

I'm sure you won't agree with me, but I say we agree to disagree and move on.

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Georgiag,

I'll move on when people stop posting me about it! This is not my first negative encounter with Jachut and will not be my last.:redface:

I'm still passionate about everything I've said and she's moved on to Rants and Raves so unless you want to discuss self esteem in the Mental Health and Lapband Life Social Group you should probably move on also because this is not the appropriate place for it, thanks brandyII:thumbup:

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