I am only two months Post surgery and Since I paid cash did not have to deal with any of the Bullshit you guys did with insurance. I also have a brother 3 months ahead of me so between the two of us we got experience.

To put this in perspective I got as confused and buffeted as you guys are on this site. My doctor had support groups and books and flyers and found it all to be one big jumble of a mess that was not easy to understand and Since I am a typical Male - Give me a damn list and i will follow it. So I went a different route and hired a Nutritionist in my area, one that specializes in Medical diets like for cancer! Here is the program that we got calibrated in under two weeks. Not going to give you the fluff just the program -

1. Forget Food - Food is a luxury and to painful to eat and to think you have to eat enough to meet your requirements - My view Screw food -

2. Get a Blood work up from a local lab - Full work up will tell you all your vitamin levels as you currently are - you have a baseline to work off

3. First few weeks are recovery - My view Survive, It sucks!

4. Now its time to set the Nutrition plan - 15 days after surgery

5. Protein shakes from Sams are key, Be careful some shakes are loaded with Carbs and sugar, Sams has the cheapest and the best for you. - FYI I hate protien shakes but trust me this will make your life a lot easier. - Here is my recipe but you need to set your own levels

------3/4 Protein shake, w/ 1 scoop of whey protein, Ice, GNC 50 plus vitamin Powder, Nutricost Pure D-Ribose Powder (250 Grams) , frozen fruit, 2 tablespoons yogurt, and two sugars. i drink a 8oz every morning by 10 am - You will be full of energy - 1/2 Nutrition vit and min. and No way you are hungry.

----- Twice a day i take the following pills - GNC multi vitamin and Cardio vit and Bariatric Vitamin. Around 1:00 and 3:00 -

---- Twice a day i Take a vegetable blend drink with Kale and other nutrients and mixes - I buy the pre made from Sams.

That is pretty much it for me every day for the last few months - I don't need any food because i have exceeded my vit and nutrients for the day and the protein. Eating is to much of a pain in the ass to me, Hurts, and Just not worth it,

I was going every week for a blood work up - after 5 days of above my levels were perfect, You will feel the difference and energy level will sky rocket!

Most of the issues are mental, and i fully understand - But once you plow thru the head games and get calibrated - life is way better! Best decision i ever did

6 hours ago, AJ Tylo said:

I am only two months Post surgery and Since I paid cash did not have to deal with any of the Bullshit you guys did with insurance. I also have a brother 3 months ahead of me so between the two of us we got experience.

To put this in perspective I got as confused and buffeted as you guys are on this site. My doctor had support groups and books and flyers and found it all to be one big jumble of a mess that was not easy to understand and Since I am a typical Male - Give me a damn list and i will follow it. So I went a different route and hired a Nutritionist in my area, one that specializes in Medical diets like for cancer! Here is the program that we got calibrated in under two weeks. Not going to give you the fluff just the program -

1. Forget food - Food is a luxury and to painful to eat and to think you have to eat enough to meet your requirements - My view Screw food -

2. Get a Blood work up from a local lab - Full work up will tell you all your Vitamin levels as you currently are - you have a baseline to work off

3. First few weeks are recovery - My view Survive, It sucks!

4. Now its time to set the Nutrition plan - 15 days after surgery

5. Protein Shakes from Sams are key, Be careful some shakes are loaded with Carbs and sugar, Sams has the cheapest and the best for you. - FYI I hate protien shakes but trust me this will make your life a lot easier. - Here is my recipe but you need to set your own levels

------3/4 Protein Shake, w/ 1 scoop of whey Protein, Ice, GNC 50 plus vitamin powder, Nutricost Pure D-Ribose Powder (250 Grams) , frozen fruit, 2 tablespoons yogurt, and two sugars. i drink a 8oz every morning by 10 am - You will be full of energy - 1/2 Nutrition vit and min. and No way you are hungry.

----- Twice a day i take the following pills - GNC multi vitamin and Cardio vit and Bariatric Vitamin. Around 1:00 and 3:00 -

---- Twice a day i Take a vegetable blend drink with Kale and other nutrients and mixes - I buy the pre made from Sams.

That is pretty much it for me every day for the last few months - I don't need any food because i have exceeded my vit and nutrients for the day and the protein. Eating is to much of a pain in the ass to me, Hurts, and Just not worth it,

I was going every week for a blood work up - after 5 days of above my levels were perfect, You will feel the difference and energy level will sky rocket!

Most of the issues are mental, and i fully understand - But once you plow thru the head games and get calibrated - life is way better! Best decision i ever did

I'm sorry, I found this hilarious. Whatever works for you. I, myself, prefer to eat food like most humans.

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9 hours ago, AJ Tylo said:

I am only two months Post surgery and Since I paid cash did not have to deal with any of the Bullshit you guys did with insurance. I also have a brother 3 months ahead of me so between the two of us we got experience.

To put this in perspective I got as confused and buffeted as you guys are on this site. My doctor had support groups and books and flyers and found it all to be one big jumble of a mess that was not easy to understand and Since I am a typical Male - Give me a damn list and i will follow it. So I went a different route and hired a Nutritionist in my area, one that specializes in Medical diets like for cancer! Here is the program that we got calibrated in under two weeks. Not going to give you the fluff just the program -

1. Forget food - Food is a luxury and to painful to eat and to think you have to eat enough to meet your requirements - My view Screw food -

2. Get a Blood work up from a local lab - Full work up will tell you all your Vitamin levels as you currently are - you have a baseline to work off

3. First few weeks are recovery - My view Survive, It sucks!

4. Now its time to set the Nutrition plan - 15 days after surgery

5. Protein Shakes from Sams are key, Be careful some shakes are loaded with Carbs and sugar, Sams has the cheapest and the best for you. - FYI I hate protien shakes but trust me this will make your life a lot easier. - Here is my recipe but you need to set your own levels

------3/4 Protein Shake, w/ 1 scoop of whey Protein, Ice, GNC 50 plus vitamin powder, Nutricost Pure D-Ribose Powder (250 Grams) , frozen fruit, 2 tablespoons yogurt, and two sugars. i drink a 8oz every morning by 10 am - You will be full of energy - 1/2 Nutrition vit and min. and No way you are hungry.

----- Twice a day i take the following pills - GNC multi vitamin and Cardio vit and Bariatric Vitamin. Around 1:00 and 3:00 -

---- Twice a day i Take a vegetable blend drink with Kale and other nutrients and mixes - I buy the pre made from Sams.

That is pretty much it for me every day for the last few months - I don't need any food because i have exceeded my vit and nutrients for the day and the protein. Eating is to much of a pain in the ass to me, Hurts, and Just not worth it,

I was going every week for a blood work up - after 5 days of above my levels were perfect, You will feel the difference and energy level will sky rocket!

Most of the issues are mental, and i fully understand - But once you plow thru the head games and get calibrated - life is way better! Best decision i ever did

Congrats that this is working for you ?

haha TOTALLY agree with no' 3 !!!

Don't forget we HAVE to get chewing solid food at some point to keep the old intestines working properly

Great this is working for you so far though

20 hours ago, AJ Tylo said:

1. Forget food - Food is a luxury and to painful to eat and to think you have to eat enough to meet your requirements - My view Screw food -

Wow! Hard core dude. LOL. Great it's worked for you and your bro. Congrats on your weight loss.

I do agree that from my viewpoint, you have to be willing to say "screw food" -- at least in the WLM--in order to lose the quickest and get to goal without potentially setting yourself up for stalling out too soon and losing focus.

I do think many of us have to completely change and break up with the foods that contributed to our poor eating behaviors. Otherwise, like alcoholics, we run the risk of recidivism.

The beauty of the initial weeks out from surgery and the honeymoon period is that it presents an opportunity to break up with old habits and almost painlessly build new healthy habits and learn new food ways of eating.

Thanks for showing us your plan!!!

p.s. I never really had ANY post op pain or pain in refeeding...

Dont get me wrong i will grab a shrimp - or small bite of some sort of soft salad but my main focus is on keeping the vitamins and nutrients balanced. Trust me i would take down a whole pizza or pound of carbs at any moment - We a group who did this together found it way easy to "Screw Food" once you get everything balanced. I have talked to a few people who say they have no pain eating also, See i thing the bariatric Gods know if i have no pain i will begin to eat wrong again.

Who knows its a life journey but sure glad it did it

Well, I have no pain.

I make sure to keep my vitamins going per my doc and per my labs. So that is SUPER important.

And I KISS with food. I purposely keep to lean, simply prepared proteins: fish, shrimp, chicken, turkey, lean pork, lean beef/deer/lamb + al dente steamed veg + a small serving of healthy fat per meal.

By doing that, my hunger is pretty contained and controlled. I follow this plan between 80-90% of the time now that I'm at goal in maintenance, and during WLM, I was pretty fanatical about following the KISS plan. I tried to give my lizard brain (hypothalmus) as few "hits" of opiod pleasure responses as possible so I could re-hardwire my neural pathways with regards to food.