Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Forbes: Why high protein diets may be linked to Cancer



Recommended Posts

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/03/04/the-protein-puzzle-meat-and-dairy-may-significantly-increase-cancer-risk/#39c8a2bc58b7

Note that in this article:

A high-protein diet was defined as getting 20% of one’s daily calories coming from Protein, a moderate-protein diet is made up of 10-19% calories from protein, and a low-protein diet consists of less than 10% protein.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well keep your Protein intake at that level and be done with it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know there are a lot of folks who won't like this information, won't believe it, and don't want to hear about it.

There are an equal number of folks who are concerned and are trying to learn all they can about it.

Most bariatric patients eat 20%+ of their calories from Protein. Worse, most bariatric patients eat mostly animal sources of protein....meat, eggs, cheese, milk...all the whey drinks.

Traditional dietary advice for the bariatric patient puts the patient distinctly at odds with emerging findings on protein's effect on IGF-1.... and is a diet that significantly increases the odds of cancer in people under 65.

The effect is a person who is working very very hard...potentially leaping out of the frying pan into the fire.

If you're eating 20%+ of your calories from protein, and particularly, animal protein...this is research that you should be aware of, and have access to weigh for yourself. This affects you. MOST folks here have been or currently are in this category.

You may decide to do nothing. You may decide to talk to your doctor or dietitian about it. You may decide to do more research. I'm not telling anyone what to do.

You may decide to make some small changes. Replace a whey protein product with a pea protein product. Eat a little less cheese and a few more nuts. Have less dairy pudding and more Chia seed pudding. Maybe have a veggie burger once a week and omit a serving of beef. Maybe you'll make some big changes....maybe you'll be comfortable with small changes....or no changes at all.

Awareness of these studies is at best.....important...and at worst...harmless.

People have a right to make up their own minds.

Edited by Creekimp13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

I know there are a lot of folks who won't like this information, won't believe it, and don't want to hear about it.

There are an equal number of folks who are concerned and are trying to learn all they can about it.

Is that why so many "folks" are responding? We are all familiar with your message, no need to repeat it daily. You are embarrassing yourself. Just do you and the rest of us "folks" will be fine. Are they the same "folks" you called losers with no lives a couple of months back when you decided to "leave"?

Edited by MIZ60

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Correlation does not equal causation. The most basic of statistics courses teach you that. For people who were between the ages 50-65, high Protein diets positively correlated with increased risk of cancer. This doesn't mean that high protein diets are causing cancer. There are so many other factors to take into consideration.

Sent from my SM-G960U using BariatricPal mobile app

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Oct517 said:

There are so many other factors to take into consideration.

Seems like they took at least a few into consideration when it came to all-cause mortality.

Quote

Adjusted for age, sex, race/ethnicity, education, waist circumference, smoking, chronic conditions (diabetes, cancer, myocardial infarction), trying to lose weight in the last year, diet changed in the last year, reported intake representative of typical diet, and total calories.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/03/04/the-protein-puzzle-meat-and-dairy-may-significantly-increase-cancer-risk/#39c8a2bc58b7

Note that in this article:

A high-protein diet was defined as getting 20% of one’s daily calories coming from Protein, a moderate-protein diet is made up of 10-19% calories from Protein, and a low-protein diet consists of less than 10% protein.

While I appreciate your "links" to all these horrible cancer related posts, I find it overkill. We are all adults here and hopefully wise enough to conduct our own research to know what side effects could come about.

Honestly, if you were to read every medical journal out there, you would find a link to cancer with everything we put into our bodies. So, thank you for these posts, but allow us to conduct our own research. For myself, I have / do conduct my own research before I change my lifestyle.

And the truth is - your diet doesn't need to be all Vegetarian or Vegan to prevent cancer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, MargoCL said:

While I appreciate your "links" to all these horrible cancer related posts, I find it overkill.[...] And the truth is - your diet doesn't need to be all Vegetarian or Vegan to prevent cancer.

1) These are not "my links".

2) This is not about becoming a vegetarian or vegan. AFAIK neither creek nor I are vegetarians or vegans.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, summerset said:

1) These are not "my links".

2) This is not about becoming a vegetarian or vegan. AFAIK neither creek nor I are vegetarians or vegans.

Sorry, that was for @Creekimp13, not sure how your name got "quoted" - very weird, but my pc and phone have been acting up.... apologies to you.

I didn't say or imply anyone was a vegetarian / vegan, just stated that being one wouldn't prevent cancer either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey Fluff, thanks for the bump.

While I realize you do not value this information or believe in it's relevance, I do appreciate that your comments keep it moving up the board so that others who might find it of value can find it.

By the way, how's business? Sell any of your keto cookbooks lately? http://fluffychixcook.com/

Cheers:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well at least I'm not necro-posting. :) I hate when that happens!

And hey! Speaking of thanks! LOL. Thanks for plugging my keto blog! (Not much to see there folks--especially since I quit updating and keeping it active a few years ago due to terrible lymphedema leftover from cancer surgery and lymph node removal.)--which is probably not that helpful to most of you since it's based on eating substantially more cals in a day than most of us can manage now, and for most of us, the recipes have too high of a fat content (especially us bypassers). Maybe one day when I'm healthy and fit (hey, I can dream!), I will either continue the blog with an update about my WLS journey and begin a new section devoted to bariatric low carb eating--which for me is Protein adequate, "lower-er" fat aka moderate fat, and low carb. But for the foreseeable future, I do not envision that happening any time soon. Although, the blog does still help a lot of people -- mostly those ketoneers who do not have altered gut anatomy and have to balance the challenge of eating a very low calorie diet while trying to satisfy their daily protein needs for a healthy life like we do here at BP.

Edited by FluffyChix

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/30/2018 at 14:53, Creekimp13 said:



Hey Fluff, thanks for the bump.




While I realize you do not value this information or believe in it's relevance, I do appreciate that your comments keep it moving up the board so that others who might find it of value can find it.




By the way, how's business? Sell any of your keto cookbooks lately? http://fluffychixcook.com/




Cheers:)


Wait... did you just dox someone for disagreeing with you? That’s kind of an internet no-no and a bit creepy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, insta_adventurer said:
4 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

Wait... did you just dox someone for disagreeing with you? That’s kind of an internet no-no and a bit creepy.

If the shoe fits.....it is probably ugly....😂😂😂😂

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ah no..not doxing, sharing a publicly advertised site where the owner (Fluffy) makes money plugging the Keto diet.

Illustrating a possible explanation for her fanatical obsession with everything I post.

Also interesting...her bio says she's been eating a high Protein low carb diet for 14 years.

When was your cancer diagnosis, Fluffy? A few years ago, you say?

Hmmmmm....

Edited by Creekimp13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Featured Surgeons

    1. Masoud Rezvani

      Woodbridge, Virginia 22191

    2. Lisa Medvetz

      Downingtown, Pennsylvania 19335
      800-282-0066

  • Most popular:

  • Recent Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • ProudGrammy

      Georgia on my mind - off to grand-daughters high school graduation - she's smart and cute as a button, just like her grammy,☺️
      kathy
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • *Meaghan*

      Went to my initial consult with the Bariatric surgeon/ program I chose. Came home with a folder full of information & helpful organization of all the testing that needs to be completed while I complete the required nutritional counseling. She also let me know my insurance typically takes 6 weeks to reply with authorization when submitted, so that puts my potential surgery date near the new year if all stays on track  I felt comfortable with her, in our discussions she agrees that I am a good candidate for the Gastric Bypass. I appreciated the 'introduction' class that was given after the consult with the surgeon where I was given this binder of every referral (from her, not my pcp referrals), & contact information for all the testing needed to make my contacts/calls tomorrow morning even easier I start my nutrition classes on June 5th, so that's when the clock will start toward insurance approval & getting the tool to help me reach my goals
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Torie Faye

      I had my Bypass Surgery on 04/25/2019 I'd weighted before surgery 308 and now 285. I get depressed because I thought it would be more. I follow all instructions from Dr.. Green walk every day work out and eating solid foods 
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • MrsGamgee

      Day 5 post-op... didn't sleep great last night, lots of gas pain and it was my first night without using the rx pain meds. I'm tired and feeling rather stupid. My nurse is supposed to call today for a check in, so I'm debating taking a nap now and risk missing her call, or forcing myself to stay awake and pray she calls soon. Also, showering should be considered a workout... just doing the basics used up all my energy. Weight is slowly working its way down. I know that I shouldn't be on the scale yet, but I couldn't resist. I'm down almost 9lb down since surgery. Yay!
      · 1 reply
      1. Emilia Danciu

        You are allowed to feel tired, take naps and only do the minimum this soon after the surgery. Listen to your body and be good to yourself at this time. Most important things to care about at this time is hydration and protein. It is a full-time job to stay on top of that and prioritize your energy there for now. Just give your body the time to heal and adjust, don’t rush the recovery.

    • jrmolina2006

      seems like the biggest issue right now is consistency in my bowel movement, what are yall using. I've tried probiotics but no luck,
      · 1 reply
      1. domi

        I use benefiber everyday in my water. it is flavorless. On days when I get a little backed up I use Miralax. It works great without any cramping.

  • Trending Topics

  • Magazine Articles

  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs
    ×