A class action lawsuit was filed against Premier Nutrition Corporation alleging it misrepresented the amount of protein contained in its “Premier Protein” branded ready-to-drink protein products and protein bars. They just settled for $9 Million. You can get up to $40 if you've purchased Premier Protein over the last few years. Visit https://www.proteinshakesettlement.com/ for more details.

I'm not a huge fan of Premier Protein, to begin with. This is what one of my bariatric surgeon friends posted about Premier Protein.

Well well well...

There will still be people that defend it..l just like GenePro after that lawsuit.

10 minutes ago, Matt Z said:

There will still be people that defend it..l just like GENEPRO after that lawsuit.

Hey I love coffee creamer , I mean premier protein

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It's total trash nutrition, everyone knows it...

Thank you for sharing this information. I drank 2 of these shakes every day for the first month after surgery, and one every day thereafter. I really relied on them to meet my protein goals after surgery. I hope everything heals up ok [emoji31]

Alex, I have to strongly disagree with your bariatric surgeon friend on the bioavailability of caseinate to weight loss patients. Caseinate is absorbed affectively in the small intestine,,,and provides a steady stream of blood amino acid levels all day....rather than whey...which has more rapid absorption, but spikes your levels dangerously. Would whey be any better? No.

That said...as you know....I'm careful with the use animal proteins in general because of the associated risks of cancer, heart disease, and early mortality in people under 65. Consuming vast quantities of milk protein under any circumstance is just a bad idea.

Tofu, refried beans, potatoes, nut butters....great choices Pea protien powder with brown rice protien powder. Lot of healthier safer options.

Is Premier Protien a horrible product? It's about as horrible as the nutrition advice of most bariatric clinics.

31 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

Alex, I have to strongly disagree with your bariatric surgeon friend on the bioavailability of caseinate to weight loss patients. Caseinate is absorbed affectively in the small intestine,,,and provides a steady stream of blood amino acid levels all day....rather than whey...which has more rapid absorption, but spikes your levels dangerously. Would whey be any better? No.

That said...as you know....I'm careful with the use animal Proteins in general because of the associated risks of cancer, heart disease, and early mortality in people under 65. Consuming vast quantities of milk Protein under any circumstance is just a bad idea.

Tofu, refried Beans, potatoes, nut butters....great choices Pea protien powder with brown rice protien powder. Lot of healthier safer options.

Is Premier Protien a horrible product? It's about as horrible as the nutrition advice of most bariatric clinics.

The lawsuit is not by the person Alex quoted, nor is it about the types of proteins included, it's about the fact that, from testing, the product *did not contain the advertised 30 grams of protein* regardless of the type, there was not 30 grams of protein in the product. So it's a false advertising issue not a protein type issue.

I use casein protein as well as whey myself, just wanted to highlight that the real reason for this lawsuit isn't protein types or absorption rates, it's about the product not containing the amounts that are listed on the package itself.

Edited October 9, 20187 yr by Matt Z

3 hours ago, Matt Z said:

The lawsuit is not by the person Alex quoted, nor is it about the types of Proteins included, it's about the fact that, from testing, the product *did not contain the advertised 30 grams of protein*

It was a petty lawsuit with a crappy payout. Premier Protein cares as much about 9 million dollars.... as I do about spending $4 on a Starbucks. They also deny wrongdoing or misleading advertising.

Why do I say it's petty? How is this possible?

The plaintiff spent a bunch of money testing a bunch of shakes. A few were found to contain between 26.9 grams and 28.34 grams....instead of the promised 30g. A few were also found to contain a bit more than 30g. Most contained 1g one side or the other....of the promised 30g.

World Shattering, huh?

The reality is....if you drink these damned shakes as often as the typical bariatric dieter....you're getting on average roughly 30g per shake...even if one or two of your shakes comes up short a gram or two. Who is "injured" by this?

It's petty and pointless.

2 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

It was a petty lawsuit with a crappy payout. Premier Protein cares as much about 9 million dollars.... as I do about spending $4 on a Starbucks. They also deny wrongdoing or misleading advertising.

Why do I say it's petty? How is this possible?

The plaintiff spent a bunch of money testing a bunch of shakes. A few were found to contain between 26.9 grams and 28.34 grams....instead of the promised 30g. A few were also found to contain a bit more than 30g. Most contained 1g one side or the other....of the promised 30g.

World Shattering, huh?

The reality is....if you drink these damned shakes as often as the typical bariatric dieter....you're getting on average roughly 30g per shake...even if one or two of your shakes comes up short a gram or two. Who is "injured" by this?

It's petty and pointless.

I wasn't defending the lawsuit... nor was I supporting it or anything other than providing the information from the lawsuit itself. This post seems a little pointed and directed at me... for no reason.

Ask yourself this.

How often does Joe Citizen have cases and cases of his favorite nutritional supplement tested at a lab...where he then cherry picks the results and goes to court?

If I seem ornery, Matt, I'm not ornery with you...

This whole thing blatantly stinks of a competing brand playing dirty...and that angers me.

Premier protein and all whey products....in my opinion, are cancer waiting to happen...so I don't care for them personally. Any of them.

But I will say that PP is the most palatable of the ready made products I've tasted. It's an extremely successful product that is raking in cash...and its competitors are not happy that so many people prefer it. It's particularly preferred in the bariatric crowd, that as you know has a massive growing market demographic.

My advice to competitors: Fix your products. Make them more palatable. Don't pursue this underhanded nonsense.

People buying into the sensationalism....is sad and irritating.

I apologize if my angst seemed in any way directed at you, Matt. It was not.

Edited October 9, 20187 yr by Creekimp13

I just looked at ingredients of Premier Protein Shakes on their website:

It's been years since I've looked at the ingredients. Essentially, it's just like drinking regular milk!

On 10/9/2018 at 7:10 AM, Matt Z said:

The lawsuit is not by the person Alex quoted, nor is it about the types of Proteins included, it's about the fact that, from testing, the product *did not contain the advertised 30 grams of protein* regardless of the type, there was not 30 grams of Protein in the product. So it's a false advertising issue not a protein type issue.

I use casein protein as well as whey myself, just wanted to highlight that the real reason for this lawsuit isn't protein types or absorption rates, it's about the product not containing the amounts that are listed on the package itself.

I think the difference between this and Genepro is the level of inaccuracy. Premier was found to have 26-29 g of protein, vs. the claimed 30 g. That is not a HUGE discrepancy like Genepro. Additionally Genepro promotes all this IMO, fake science about medical grade protein etc..

I'd be curious to know more about the 26-29 g of protein range. If it was mostly in the 26 g range, then that's more of an issue. If it was mostly in the 29 g range, that' an entirely different story.

Edited October 17, 20187 yr by sillykitty

2 minutes ago, sillykitty said:

I think the difference between this and GENEPRO is the level of inaccuracy. Premier was found to have 26-29 g of protein, vs. the claimed 30 g. That is not a HUGE discrepancy like Genepro. Additionally Genepro promotes all this IMO, fake science about medical grade protein etc..

I'd be curious to know more about the 26-29 g of protein range. If it was mostly in the 26 g range, then that's more of an issue. If it was mostly in the 29 g range, that' an entirely different story.

I should have read through the entire thread before posting the above.

Having a range of values for anything on a nutrition label is completely normal. That is just a part of the food manufacturing process.

I agree that this is a bs lawsuit. This does not rise to the level of false advertising IMO.

On a separate note, I also disagree that casein is inappropriate for WLS patients, and that whey is superior.

6 minutes ago, sillykitty said:

I should have read through the entire thread before posting the above.

Having a range of values for anything on a nutrition label is completely normal. That is just a part of the food manufacturing process.

I agree that this is a bs lawsuit. This does not rise to the level of false advertising IMO.

On a separate note, I also disagree that casein is inappropriate for WLS patients, and that whey is superior.

Casein might be OK for gastric sleeve patients after the post op liquid phase. It’s most definitely NOT ok for gastric bypass or DS patients. See Dr. Rollers post above.

1 minute ago, Alex Brecher said:

Casein might be OK for gastric sleeve patients after the post op liquid phase. It’s most definitely NOT ok for gastric bypass or DS patients. See Dr. Rollers post above.

No offense Alex, but just because one Dr. has that opinion does not make it a proven fact.

There might be a study in the works on this issue

http://www.trialregister.nl/trialreg/admin/rctview.asp?TC=6637

I could not find any completed studies, so this is Dr. roller's conjecture.

The RNY bypassed just 3 feet of the small intestine, but still leaves 17. So it doesn't make sense to me that would make casein an ineffective source of protein for bypass patients.