Hey y'all! Anyone and everyone is welcome to jump in and join us.

This is the Intermittent Fasting DAily Menu/Results/Accountability Thread. It's where a few of us (or many) are going to log in and encourage each other while we experiment with our own IF plans. You can list or talk about anything--not just your food. I look forward to adding in HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) and core exercises to my walking plan while practicing IF. So expect to hear about that too. hehe I expect some of us will talk about the known IF side-effects like insomnia, circadian rhythm disturbance, etc. It's all good! Let's hack this IF mofo! mkay?

There is not any 1 specific IF plan--there are so many to choose from, so this is a BYOIFP (bring-your-own-IF-plan) and join the fun! This is the thread where we'll post our daily menus and maybe some piccys at times! We can discuss progress, issues we might notice, look at how we may want to refine our own personal plans. I do think you should be healed from surgery and have your doctor's and RD's blessings to try something like this and you should do a ton of research and reading about Intermittent Fasting.

IF isn't only about weight loss, it's about taking specific measures to limit either quantities, calories, macros, or sometimes only consciously altering eating windows/schedules in order to effect metabolic change and reduce inflammation and improve health markers.

Ok, let's do this thang!!!

3 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

NEVERRRRRRRRRRR

joking joking joking

IKR? LOL. I um, look obschenely forward to my afternoon green tea and cup of matcha. Just sayin'...coinkydink? *snic*

Top 10 Tips for Intermittent Fasting

Here's the LINK!

1 hour ago, FluffyChix said:

Oh and break up with caffeine and carbs now.

I was an avid coffee drinker for a couple years but I can't stand it black so I would use creamers and sweeteners, etc and I think those things were causing insulin spikes so I weaned myself off. Tried cold turkey.....I definitely don't recommend that. But I've been caffeine free for about three months now. As for carbs, I have no issues there. I look at carbs as evil incarnate. LMAO Ever since doing Keto and Carnivore and reading all the research on those, I strive for ZERO carbs, it doesn't always happen but it's definitely a goal that I obsess over. My biggest issue is the boredom grazing and my very sedentary career as a crane operator. I literally sit in a seat and do nothing but pull levers for 12-14 hrs a day, 7 days a week. I would like to find a more active job but after doing this for over 20 years, and the awesome amount of $$$$$ it pays, it just seems insane to do anything else. If you've read my story on my profile then you know the only way I went from 420 to 190 after my VSG was because I had saved up enough money to take a year from working a focus strictly on exercise all day every day. Maybe that in itself wasn't the healthiest decision mentally. I don't know, I, like everyone else, am a work in progress. I'll figure it out. I think the things I am finding here in BP will help a lot this time. I wish I had stayed active in here since joining back in .....2012 I think??

5 hours ago, JamesL73 said:

I was an avid coffee drinker for a couple years but I can't stand it black so I would use Creamers and sweeteners, etc and I think those things were causing insulin spikes so I weaned myself off. Tried cold turkey.....I definitely don't recommend that. But I've been caffeine free for about three months now. As for carbs, I have no issues there. I look at carbs as evil incarnate. LMAO Ever since doing Keto and Carnivore and reading all the research on those, I strive for ZERO carbs, it doesn't always happen but it's definitely a goal that I obsess over. My biggest issue is the boredom grazing and my very sedentary career as a crane operator. I literally sit in a seat and do nothing but pull levers for 12-14 hrs a day, 7 days a week. I would like to find a more active job but after doing this for over 20 years, and the awesome amount of $$$$$ it pays, it just seems insane to do anything else. If you've read my story on my profile then you know the only way I went from 420 to 190 after my VSG was because I had saved up enough money to take a year from working a focus strictly on exercise all day every day. Maybe that in itself wasn't the healthiest decision mentally. I don't know, I, like everyone else, am a work in progress. I'll figure it out. I think the things I am finding here in BP will help a lot this time. I wish I had stayed active in here since joining back in .....2012 I think??

Zero carbs? Extreme...

Can one of you ladies share this chia seed pudding recipe your speaking of?

8 hours ago, alioolala said:

Can one of you ladies share this chia seed pudding recipe your speaking of?

This makes 4 servings

Golden Chocolate Chia Pudding (matcha is optional). Warm the cashew or almond milk up. Stir in cocoa, turmeric, and cinnamon until it dissolves. Simmer for about 5 minutes to cook the turmeric powder. Remove from heat and let it chill or come to room temp. Add other ingredients and stir every 5-10 minutes until chia seeds fully expand. Sweeten with preferred sweetener. I am using Monk Fruit liquid drops for this one. Divide into 4 containers. Chill well.

Matcha Lemon Chia Pudding (Makes 3 servings) walnuts and blueberries are optional.

Edited June 3, 20197 yr by FluffyChix

Wow! This is a very brainiac YT from Dr. Michael Eades (Protein Power) discussing the effects of incretins on insulin secretion (fat storing hormone) and food quality/integrity. The take away from it is, if you want to have the lowest area under the curve (ie least amount of insulin secretion/fat storage) he says, "Don't eat. And if you do eat, don't eat carbs, but if you do eat carbs, eat the least process carbs, and eat them at the end of the meal. But it's best to eat meat, cuz it has the lowest incretin response.

Thanks fluffy I’m making it today!

10 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

Wow! This is a very brainiac YT from Dr. Michael Eades (Protein Power) discussing the effects of incretins on insulin secretion (fat storing hormone) and food quality/integrity. The take away from it is, if you want to have the lowest area under the curve (ie least amount of insulin secretion/fat storage) he says, "Don't eat. And if you do eat, don't eat carbs, but if you do eat carbs, eat the least process carbs, and eat them at the end of the meal. But it's best to eat meat, cuz it has the lowest incretin response.

Great video. I like how he breaks it down so the average person can comprehend what he's talking about. The little jokes he throws in keeps you interested as well.

This really helps to make sense of why a lot of people have been so successful on the Carnivore diet......AS LONG AS THEY ARE EATING CLEAN, ORGANIC, UNPROCESSED MEATS. Even if they eat meats higher in fat, as long as they're not mixing with sugars they're still good since to store the fat, it requires sugars. That was my understanding anyway. I understand though, that it would take an extremely strong commitment, to sustain long term on a clean, strict Carnivore. It also gets expensive buying Organic, Grass fed meats, it even gets hard trying to find them these days.

I liked the "Don't eat" part. It's something I have had rattling in my mind lately. With all these vitamin and mineral supplements in patch form, I'm wondering how long a person could actually survive and be moderately active, without eating at all. But supplementing with patches. I know there have been a few who have done a year or so on a water fast but they definitely aren't active while doing it. Although he did say that without GIP going through the intestinal tract there would be bone loss. I guess that wouldn't be good. Lol

@JamesL73 .... you worry me

"I look at carbs as evil incarnate...... I strive for ZERO carbs, ..it's definitely a goal that I obsess over."

"I went from 420 to 190 after my VSG .... focus strictly on exercise all day every day."

"I liked the "Don't eat" part. It's something I have had rattling in my mind lately. With all these Vitamin and mineral supplements in patch form, I'm wondering how long a person could actually survive and be moderately active, without eating at all. But supplementing with Patches."

None of that is a healthy mindset. Have you ever seen a therapist who specializes in eating disorders?

Question for those of you have done a lot of reading & research on IF

What are some of the recommended intervals for feast & famine type of IF?

Background:

My mom has been doing a VLCD + IF for a couple of months. Similar to WLS patients diets in the losing phase. She has been happy with it, and her losses. She went on vacation for two weeks, knowing she would go off the rails, and she did. She was expecting to come home to significant gain. But instead she had a loss! Now granted she was a lot more active than average, lots of golf and walking. But this piqued her interest in feast and famine type of IF.

Calling all IF experts

Maybe eat-stop-eat is a good read about this.

13 minutes ago, sillykitty said:

Question for those of you have done a lot of reading & research on IF

What are some of the recommended intervals for feast & famine type of IF?

Background:

My mom has been doing a VLCD + IF for a couple of months. Similar to WLS patients diets in the losing phase. She has been happy with it, and her losses. She went on vacation for two weeks, knowing she would go off the rails, and she did. She was expecting to come home to significant gain. But instead she had a loss! Now granted she was a lot more active than average, lots of golf and walking. But this piqued her interest in feast and famine type of IF.

Calling all IF experts

Congrats to your mom!!! That's fabulous!!!

I'm no expert on this stuff, but honestly, ADF with calorie restriction is my favorite and most easy method of fasting.

You mean ADF stuff? Or is that what you're asking?

Usually VLCD type of IF comes with ADF. So there are a couple ways most people do it:

The original one: alternate days of 500 cals (any combination of macros -- but healthy whole food) punctuated with alternating days of a normal diet. Here's the Link to that diet (not an affiliate link)

Here's Dr. Varady's Version of it (she did a lot of the research on VLCD ADF style diets). Here's the Link to that diet (not an affiliate link)

Here's the Fast Diet (5:2) by Dr. Moseley based on Dr. Varady's research. Here's the Link to that diet (not an affiliate link)

So the science is pretty sound on it. It's a very widely researched idea that cyclical calorie restriction with weight loss causes an epigenetic change(s)--switching on longevity and healing genes without impairing metabolism. It turns on the SIRTUAN genes and that lowers inflammation, extends telemeres, and conveys some pretty amazing benefits like reduction in asthma and other inflammatory diseases. The key on their diets is not doing the restriction like that longer than 48 consecutive hours.

As opposed to Dr. Fung's group who maintains if you are diseased, you have to do 36-72 hour fasts with one day of refeeding in between, until you get to a point of health and normal weight. He maintains that metabolic slowdown doesn't happen even in the face of calorie deficit because people are in ketosis and are in a fat burning state. So as such, any calorie deficit is made up by your own fat stores.

Brad Pilon's Eat-Stop-Eat method is a good plan for some, but it's mainly a TRE (16:8; 18:6, etc) style of eating that may not necessarily include a caloric deficit or a VLCD approach.

Edited June 4, 20197 yr by FluffyChix

3 hours ago, sillykitty said:

@JamesL73 .... you worry me

"I look at carbs as evil incarnate...... I strive for ZERO carbs, ..it's definitely a goal that I obsess over."

"I went from 420 to 190 after my VSG .... focus strictly on exercise all day every day."

"I liked the "Don't eat" part. It's something I have had rattling in my mind lately. With all these Vitamin and mineral supplements in patch form, I'm wondering how long a person could actually survive and be moderately active, without eating at all. But supplementing with Patches."

None of that is a healthy mindset. Have you ever seen a therapist who specializes in eating disorders?

I might could use some therapy but it is definitely not for any eating disorders. So maybe the word "obsess" was a bit much. There's absolutely nothing wrong with aiming for zero carbs. And ok, so I didn't literally exercise 24/7. And lastly, what's wrong with questioning the possibilities with todays technological and medical advancements?? I guess I should choose my words more carefully.