I figured it would be nice to have a section where we could just confess to some of the potentially dumb things we've done, pre or post op. Just so others can see we are all human. I want this to be kept as civil as possible, where people can own up to things without anyone else chiming in with anything negative, we all know what we did wasn't "right" but I'm sure we ALL have done something we shouldn't have.

I'll start.

I cheated on my pre-op diet a few times. I also like to find loop holes and exploit the crap out of them. I drank beer for a week+ on my pre-op, because it didn't say I couldn't. I only stopped after I was forced to, because my wife asked my surgeon and of course they said "no"... boo. I also ate a whole slice of French Meat Pie at my Dad's 60th birthday luncheon.

I cheated on my post-op diet/puree stage a bit too. I ate rice cakes and protein chips or other veggie chips. Not a lot, but it happened. I "pureed" a steak and cheese sandwich once. I ate a few fried ravioli on my puree stage as well.

This past weekend, I had a beer. My wife and I took my parents out to dinner at a local casino, it's Restaurant week, so we found a good looking location and went out to eat, part of the deal was that you got a draft beer with your meal. So, I had a shipyard summer ale with my grilled chicken parm sandwich (only ended up eating 3 bites of the chicken and none of the bread).

I did all that thus far and nothing bad happened.

I understand the changes are to ensure we stick to our diets, but understanding that we are all human and WILL either slip up or just stray from our diets on purpose like I did. It's good to see that, it's possible to still live and be able to enjoy a few things we "shouldn't" without any negatives happening.

So, what's your WLS confession?

Edited July 16, 20188 yr by Matt Z

08/16/2018 11:55 PM, sillykitty said:

Do you ask him for a ride

Tracking beefcake in myfitnesspal...

On 08/17/2018 at 00:03, sillykitty said:

Ahhh ,,, this definitely feels like a Kumbaya moment

If only my messages were conveyed clearly, BP has it out for me... Double post, mysteries email doppelgänger, vanishing words, errors galore. I'm taking a break

On 08/17/2018 at 00:01, sillykitty said:

So this is kinda what I do .....

I can assure you, these companies offer what sells. If kale chips sold better than potato chips, then that's what you'd at every checkstand.

There is a huge disconnect between what the general public says they want to buy, and what they actually do buy.

(Oh, and if you LOVE kale chips and HATE potato chips, you are an outlier ... trust me!)

Oh I knew I was an outlier ... I ❤️ kale too much for this society lol

2 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

Oh I knew I was an outlier ... I ❤️ kale too much for this society lol

Weirdo!

Lots of things I eat that I am not supposed to Generally I am 'good' but on occasion I will have something naughty like a slice of cake which I will eat throughout the day so by the end of the day I have eaten the slice. That has happened once so far. But I will eat a bag of chips often. At the end of the day it still falls within the calorie amount BUT its not nutritional. Dark chocolate is my best friend. I will be post op 3 months in 10 days and I have lost 48 lbs. I know I could be doing much better if I exercised more. I have a lot of guilt about that actually

Thanks for answering, sillykitty.

Ok so I have a real question for all of my fellow cheaters:
Say you knew before surgery that you were probably never going to be an exercise fanatic Running/biking/hiking on the weekends or never giving up chocolate/alcohol/donuts... Whatever

Is it then a cheat or is it just your lifestyle and you lose what you lose taking into account your lifestyle?

22 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

Ok so I have a real question for all of my fellow cheaters:
Say you knew before surgery that you were probably never going to be an exercise fanatic Running/biking/hiking on the weekends or never giving up chocolate/alcohol/donuts... Whatever

Is it then a cheat or is it just your lifestyle and you lose what you lose taking into account your lifestyle?

Good question. I admit that most of my "cheats" are things I would like to incorporate into my maintenance lifestyle. However, I do consider them cheats because I want to toe the line until I get to goal weight and anything that distracts me from that or delays it, is not my friend. I don't want to waste my honeymoon!

14 hours ago, BajanSleeve said:

Lots of things I eat that I am not supposed to Generally I am 'good' but on occasion I will have something naughty like a slice of cake which I will eat throughout the day so by the end of the day I have eaten the slice. That has happened once so far. But I will eat a bag of chips often. At the end of the day it still falls within the calorie amount BUT its not nutritional. Dark chocolate is my best friend. I will be post op 3 months in 10 days and I have lost 48 lbs. I know I could be doing much better if I exercised more. I have a lot of guilt about that actually

I eat dark chocolate or Cacao every day... I'm not ashamed

1 minute ago, GreenTealael said:

I eat dark chocolate or Cacao every day... I'm not ashamed

And I would never tell you to stop. We may be headed to the same destination, but we've all got our own path

8 minutes ago, Orchids&Dragons said:

Good question. I admit that most of my "cheats" are things I would like to incorporate into my maintenance lifestyle. However, I do consider them cheats because I want to toe the line until I get to goal weight and anything that distracts me from that or delays it, is not my friend. I don't want to waste my honeymoon!

But questions I have (i guess for a NUT/RD) is won't waiting to add those thing later cause the rebound weight gain everyone fears? But if you add it now , you would have never lost that extra weight from withholding it and causing the added psychological damage as well? Am I reaching?

Edited August 17, 20187 yr by GreenTealael

Just now, GreenTealael said:

But questions I guess for a NUT/RD is won't waiting to add those thing later cause the rebound weight gain everyone fears? But if you add it now , you would have never lost that extra weight from withholding it and causing the added psychological damage as well? Am I reaching?

It all depends. You have to increase your calories when you get to maintenance, anyway. I can't stay at 800 forever.

1 hour ago, GreenTealael said:

Ok so I have a real question for all of my fellow cheaters:
Say you knew before surgery that you were probably never going to be an exercise fanatic Running/biking/hiking on the weekends or never giving up chocolate/alcohol/donuts... Whatever

Is it then a cheat or is it just your lifestyle and you lose what you lose taking into account your lifestyle?

This is me

i never had any intention to drastically change my lifestyle. A life on grilled chicken and celery is not appealing to me. Not even joking, I’d rather be fat.

My plan was after WLS to eat pretty strictly healthily to take maximum advantage of the honeymoon phase. During the maintenance phase to eat as normally as possible, just minimizing “junk” and eating smaller portions.

i haven’t been as strict in my losing stage as I had intended. I appear to have much more restriction than most people at my stage. I have relied on that. As long as it’s not a slider, and I haven’t found many sliders, I can eat so little' it’s like max 200 cals per meal. So I have relaxed, and it hasn’t seemed to harm my weight loss

During maintenance, I plan to eat “normally”, ordering what I want from a restaurant menu for example. Eating bread, pasta etc. What I don’t plan to do is have junk food snacks in the house like chips, cookies, regular ice cream etc. I might have these out on occasion, but not to sit around the house so I can eat them to excess. I also plan to not drink as excessively. I look forward to fitting in and having a few drinks, but not the 10+ I would regularly consume sometimes multiples times per week.

Why I’m hoping this will work for me is I gained my weight slowly over the years. In the last 8 years I have lived a lifestyle of constant dining out and drinking. I made no attempt at all to make healthy choices. I literally ate what sounded best at every opportunity. I gained about 60 lbs in those 8 yrs. My logic is if I gained relatively slowly while completely ignoring my food intake, then a with moderate amount of control I should be able to maintain, especially if I have reasonable amount of restriction.

i could be completely wrong. If I am I am willing to reevaluate and find what will work for me. I love my new found body. I am going to invest in plastics. I’m too damn happy feeling sexy af to let myself have significant regain.

The only things I’m not willing to give up is ethnic food, and eating freely when traveling on international vacations. Other than that I will do what is needed to find that balance during maintenance.

I'm on the 11th day of 13 days pre-op Optifast diet. I hate the bars, but can tolerate the soups & shakes. I get a call from my dietician today saying my potassium is high and if I eat a lot of the soups that could be the reason. So, now I'm down to 1 soup a day and 6 shakes. I caved and ate 2 eggs, 1/2c cottage cheese and will have 3 shakes for the rest of the day. I guess my cheat wasn't too awful and it was amazing to chew food again lol

08/17/2018 06:22 PM, sillykitty said:

This is me

i never had any intention to drastically change my lifestyle. A life on grilled chicken and celery is not appealing to me. Not even joking, I’d rather be fat.

My plan was after WLS to eat pretty strictly healthily to take maximum advantage of the honeymoon phase. During the maintenance phase to eat as normally as possible, just minimizing “junk” and eating smaller portions.

i haven’t been as strict in my losing stage as I had intended. I appear to have much more restriction than most people at my stage. I have relied on that. As long as it’s not a slider, and I haven’t found many sliders, I can eat so little' it’s like max 200 cals per meal. So I have relaxed, and it hasn’t seemed to harm my weight loss

During maintenance, I plan to eat “normally”, ordering what I want from a restaurant menu for example. Eating bread, Pasta etc. What I don’t plan to do is have junk food Snacks in the house like chips, Cookies, regular ice cream etc. I might have these out on occasion, but not to sit around the house so I can eat them to excess. I also plan to not drink as excessively. I look forward to fitting in and having a few drinks, but not the 10+ I would regularly consume sometimes multiples times per week.

Why I’m hoping this will work for me is I gained my weight slowly over the years. In the last 8 years I have lived a lifestyle of constant dining out and drinking. I made no attempt at all to make healthy choices. I literally ate what sounded best at every opportunity. I gained about 60 lbs in those 8 yrs. My logic is if I gained relatively slowly while completely ignoring my food intake, then a with moderate amount of control I should be able to maintain, especially if I have reasonable amount of restriction.

i could be completely wrong. If I am I am willing to reevaluate and find what will work for me. I love my new found body. I am going to invest in plastics. I’m too damn happy feeling sexy af to let myself have significant regain.

The only things I’m not willing to give up is ethnic food, and eating freely when traveling on international vacations. Other than that I will do what is needed to find that balance during maintenance.

When my dietary plan stage reached "health eating for life" I took it seriously and began to add everything back in that would stay there permanently, and excluding the things that would stay out permanently

I figured I'd lose what I lose, take or leave it, not working out in excess because its not sustainable for me and what if I break my ankle and cannot exercise any more , regaining the 50lbs I would have never lost if I had not been in the gym 3 hrs/ 6 days a week? Nope can't live that life, I'm underachieving all the way. I will step up the exercise incrementally over the years, working on the weight loss in the kitchen I guess.