This may be controversial but I'm wondering if anyone is purposely forcing malabsorption / laxative effect and as a side effect making their sleeve behave like RNY?

It occurred to me that from time to time I do this (to maintain bowel regularity) because dense protein stays in my body too long so I purposely use extra stevia to promote swifter bowel movements on the days I eat mostly meat.

Any thoughts? Is this even a thing? Is this considered forcing malabsorption or just creating a laxative effect?

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I wouldn't call it malabsorption, you are just creating a laxative effect (maybe not even laxative, but more what you would experience with fiber) Are you taking fiber supplements daily?

I wouldn't call it malabsorption, you are just creating a laxative effect (maybe not even laxative, but more what you would experience with fiber) Are you taking Fiber supplements daily?

No I can't have most because of ingredients, so just real whole food fiber and it works great mist of the time but some days when I'm eating dense protein there is no room for leafy greens I notice it stays in longer so I purposely force it out. That's what I called it forced malabsorption because I'm certain its not fully digested.

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5 minutes ago, Tealael said:

No I can't have most because of ingredients, so just real whole food Fiber and it works great mist of the time but some days when I'm eating dense Protein there is no room for leafy greens I notice it stays in longer so I purposely force it out. That's what I called it forced malabsorption because I'm certain its not fully digested.

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I understand, I'd still go more with using it for the fiber effect... going to be the same level of absorption in my opinion, since you don't have any bypassed intestinal sections etc. And I doubt you'd see any negative effects of the process. I have tried to do what I was calling "Controlled dumping", using coffee or some higher fats/sugars to help move things along if I felt I as stalled or backed up. I take fiber daily as well though so I don't do that too often.

So, I don't personally see anything off/wrong/odd/controversial about ensuring your plumbing is flowing smoothly.

I'm following this - I don't eat dense protein so I have no idea how long it might linger in my body. I sure don't want my constipation to get any worse. Didn't know that Stevia can move things along.

I'm following this - I don't eat dense Protein so I have no idea how long it might linger in my body. I sure don't want my constipation to get any worse. Didn't know that Stevia can move things along.

For me it creates a laxative effect in high amounts, for you it may be another food

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Tested it out again and it think it is more malabsorption than laxative effect

(TMI- texture, smell, etc.)

Reviving this thread.

As much as I like to believe I can eat meat (poultry) as much as I want, I can't. I have to force it out or it tries to sit inside me like forever.

Anyone else?

I’ve been having the same meat issue post-Montezuma. I’m drinking a cup of strong coffee every evening to get things moving. It’s been almost a week but things are equalizing.

Ive been using coffee this way since a month after surgery. I don’t drink more than about 14 oz per day so think it’s moderate. And effective!

5 hours ago, sideeye said:

I’ve been having the same meat issue post-Montezuma. I’m drinking a cup of strong coffee every evening to get things moving. It’s been almost a week but things are equalizing.

Ive been using coffee this way since a month after surgery. I don’t drink more than about 14 oz per day so think it’s moderate. And effective!

Good to know I'm not alone!

Sorry Mexico was not kind to you...Hopefully (soon) you will be right as rain

Definitely on the mend, thanks! Just completely curious as to whether everyone would be having the same illness quirks as I'm experiencing, or if this is bariatric-specific. And if it's bariatric-specific, is this same routine going to play out (on a lesser scale, please) for other stomach bugs? It's very odd.

Anyway, coffee: the grand equalizer.

12 minutes ago, sideeye said:

Definitely on the mend, thanks! Just completely curious as to whether everyone would be having the same illness quirks as I'm experiencing, or if this is bariatric-specific. And if it's bariatric-specific, is this same routine going to play out (on a lesser scale, please) for other stomach bugs? It's very odd.

Anyway, coffee: the grand equalizer.

I wish coffee had ANY effect on me, besides warming agent, sigh.

I've noticed that I'm taking a lot longer to recover from any illness post surgery. A few others have noted the same.

Usually,provokes a BM in me! Used to have AM cup, within 45 minutes Hello Porcelain Throne!