I hate it when people post just to post.....

[kcmagu 3]

I'm not understanding the need to take anything to PM instead of leaving public where it all started.

This is a public site - correct? A group of people having had the same procedure (oh wait - not everyone has - make that having had, thinking about or having been revised from same procedure) talking to each other about whatever they want.

Within said public site, this is a thread with the description of posting just to post which seems identical in meaning to the forum in which it belongs - in case anyone has forgotten here is the forum's description:

Forum for general conversation, share interests, have a laugh or discuss anything not specifically related to banding or the LAP-BAND®.

That's all I've witnessed here save the unprofessionalism of those (one in particular) supposedly moderating us.

I will not take something to private that was brought out publicly - who are you to suggest I do otherwise- you have had no interaction with me ever - why start now.

I am now embarrassed that I have sent more than 15 people here from my private life within the last 6 months due to their having or contemplating lap-band - no I did not do it through a link so as to get credit or have it logged somewhere. It was because I used to think this was an amazing place to come, get support, give support and enjoy a shared kinship w/ others across the country - world actually.

You should be ashamed of yourself and the way this site has changed.

Please inform your mod's that I am no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - your loss!

[Alex Brecher 10,494]

I agree Lulu that's when I left LBT.... No one was to be found and yep that's where I had to go to get help as well. I have done the report a post before and finally gave up.

Mods taking the personal issues to FB is bad.. Not only that as Lu pointed out that is also where I had to go to get a mods attention recently.

Welcome back then :biggrin: I take it you're back now ?

Mods review and discuss EVERY reported post. We have mods from the left to right wing, usually the correct decision is made.

That's not to say that mods aren't human either. They definitely make mistakes. To error is human, right ? I agree that it's not the best idea for mods to take personal LBT issues to FB (if the gripe is publicly accessible for all to see.) If I'm not mistaken, it's no longer available.

So I hope all is settled and we can all live happily ever after on LBT....

[kcmagu 3]

Actually Alex - not everyone can live happily here because of the poor decision of your mods - someone was forced out - and I publicly challenge the way in which you seem to be aware of how that came about.

and re th statement of everything hopefully being settled and people living happily ever after..... how dare I be chastised in such a manner with that load of crap - it is degrading and pathetic.... I can't believe it.

(please note this is not a personal attack - I am refuting your message not you)

[plain 12]

Please inform your mod's that I am no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - your loss!

What is all this about being a "follower" all about? And if you're so positively bent on all your situations being made public, then I'd think you could tell me directly that you are "no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - (my) loss" instead of asking Alex to tell me.

[plain 12]

Actually Alex - not everyone can live happily here because of the poor decision of your mods - someone was forced out -

KC, nobody was forced out initially. Somebody broke some rules, was given a temporary suspension, signed back on under false accounts numerous times to post egregious remarks and then was permanently banned. But thanks for calling my decision-making "poor".... I guess we should totally let members say that other members have sex with dogs and cows.

[Brandy~ 2]

I'm ok w/ that. :frown::biggrin::wink2:

Well ya know I try to never give honest answers on here (per your implication), but I'll make an exception just this once. The two sites aren't linked. Unless you're "friends" on fb then nobody will know here what you say there. As for punishment, I guess the only standards are libel & slander (I can never remember which is spoken, and which is written)?

Really I must have had too much wine in the 5oz cuz I don't remember that part (giving honest answers) I think you're most about sexual comments but w/e floats yer boat... Are we able to put mods on /ignore except for Pm's when were being bad? If not you might wanna back off on your harrassment and giving such notice to girls appendages.

I have posted a notice on FB that if you're an LBT member and you're offended by what I have to say unfriend yourself if I missed you because that is my real name and its a personal page I should of never let others join and I will keep it that way.

Hello? Wasa... who's she sleepin' with around here? Lawdy, she makes some people look like church leaders. :biggrin:

She was a lil much.. She tells it like it is. I wasn't a fan but I had her on /ignore like MOST adults would do if they had any smarts and move on.

What all she said.

For what it's worth, I think ANY mod that starts acting so personally with people should step down. This is not anything personal against anybody specific here, though it DOES pertain to somebody specific.

If a mod cannot get personal, s/he has no business being one. Period.

I can't even agree with you more. ABSOLUTELY ridiculous that MANY people from here are friends with SUSAN on FB and saw her snotty ass comments on FB about Glouc and no one had the guts to point it out but me. Horrible, unprofessional, childish, rude.

I'm not understanding the need to take anything to PM instead of leaving public where it all started.

This is a public site - correct? A group of people having had the same procedure (oh wait - not everyone has - make that having had, thinking about or having been revised from same procedure) talking to each other about whatever they want.

Within said public site, this is a thread with the description of posting just to post which seems identical in meaning to the forum in which it belongs - in case anyone has forgotten here is the forum's description:

Forum for general conversation, share interests, have a laugh or discuss anything not specifically related to banding or the LAP-BAND®®.

That's all I've witnessed here save the unprofessionalism of those (one in particular) supposedly moderating us.

I will not take something to private that was brought out publicly - who are you to suggest I do otherwise- you have had no interaction with me ever - why start now.

I am now embarrassed that I have sent more than 15 people here from my private life within the last 6 months due to their having or contemplating LAP-BAND® - no I did not do it through a link so as to get credit or have it logged somewhere. It was because I used to think this was an amazing place to come, get support, give support and enjoy a shared kinship w/ others across the country - world actually.

You should be ashamed of yourself and the way this site has changed.

Please inform your mod's that I am no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - your loss!

I think too many people here are upset about the lack of modding going on and when it does... it's them blowing up at people and then deleting posts to make it appear in their favor? I mean seriously I can't totally blame Alex seeings how there is 1 of him and his mods don't seem to have their emotions under control. It's a rollercoaster for all of us... but seriously ... check it at the door.

Welcome back then I take it you're back now ?

Mods review and discuss EVERY reported post. We have mods from the left to right wing, usually the correct decision is made.

That's not to say that mods aren't human either. They definitely make mistakes. To error is human, right ? I agree that it's not the best idea for mods to take personal LBT issues to FB (if the gripe is publicly accessible for all to see.) If I'm not mistaken, it's no longer available.

So I hope all is settled and we can all live happily ever after on LBT....

You're right Alex its no longer available because I am not afraid of susan and her power hunger. I immediately called her out on the post on FB. I didn't tolerate it. After many LBT members posted to her that she was being stupid she deleted it. That's convenient right? Anything can be fixed with /delete eh? Even on threads here? Are you alerted when she posts mean things to people then removes them?

She has done it.

[kcmagu 3]

What is all this about being a "follower" all about? And if you're so positively bent on all your situations being made public, then I'd think you could tell me directly that you are "no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - (my) loss" instead of asking Alex to tell me.

Plain - let me start by saying that I have really enjoyed your presence on LBT - you crack me up actually and have looked forward to the playful sparring. I do not know exactly what part you had in HH's departure which I have issues with - I have enjoyed keeping that separate from joking with you - I can separate people I know who don't get along.

If you are truly unaware of where the issue with being a 'follower' has come from then it doesn't pertain to you (but to someone it makes a lot of sense)

I am bent about things being public tonight - that's what I did - made it public - you responding means you were made aware. Public and direct are 2 different things.

Now as far as my statement about not being a follower but a friend suffers from very poor sentence structure - the first half pertaining to the mod who called me a follower and the latter half to Alex who all of a sudden comes in to try and settle the waves way too late.

[plain 12]

Really I must have had too much wine in the 5oz cuz I don't remember that part (giving honest answers) I think you're most about sexual comments but w/e floats yer boat...

Ok. Fair enough. I will rein it in from here on out and be more professional.

Edited September 22, 2009 by plain
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[*susan* 1,709]

I am going to step in and defend myself. I cannot believe what is going on here. Yes, I was slammed in a thread and got tired of seeing all the complaints going on over the moderator team deciding to ban someone. I had worked about 70 hours that week putting on a major event at work, and ended the week with the flu. So, as I admitted then, I was a bit on edge. I am a human being, we all are. My statement on Facebook never mentioned anyone's name. NEVER! It said I wish people would quit whining and have another glass of wine. As soon as I posted it, I realized I shouldn't have, even though I didn't in any way, shape or form indicate who or what I was talking about. I deleted the status within two minutes of posting it. I told Alex about it as well.

Now seriously, is that what this is all about? Because, it really seems blown way, way out of proportion to me.

[Brandy~ 2]

KC, nobody was forced out initially. Somebody broke some rules, was given a temporary suspension, signed back on under false accounts numerous times to post egregious remarks and then was permanently banned. But thanks for calling my decision-making "poor".... I guess we should totally let members say that other members have sex with dogs and cows.

Hmm why not? You make reference to our body parts most of the time eh? maybe my hubby would prefer cows or dogs to you?

[Alex Brecher 10,494]

I'm not understanding the need to take anything to PM instead of leaving public where it all started.

This is a public site - correct? A group of people having had the same procedure (oh wait - not everyone has - make that having had, thinking about or having been revised from same procedure) talking to each other about whatever they want.

Within said public site, this is a thread with the description of posting just to post which seems identical in meaning to the forum in which it belongs - in case anyone has forgotten here is the forum's description:

Forum for general conversation, share interests, have a laugh or discuss anything not specifically related to banding or the LAP-BAND®.

That's all I've witnessed here save the unprofessionalism of those (one in particular) supposedly moderating us.

I will not take something to private that was brought out publicly - who are you to suggest I do otherwise- you have had no interaction with me ever - why start now.

I am now embarrassed that I have sent more than 15 people here from my private life within the last 6 months due to their having or contemplating LAP-BAND® - no I did not do it through a link so as to get credit or have it logged somewhere. It was because I used to think this was an amazing place to come, get support, give support and enjoy a shared kinship w/ others across the country - world actually.

You should be ashamed of yourself and the way this site has changed.

Please inform your mod's that I am no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - your loss!

1) The post Susan made wasn't publicly available on FB, it was only available to her FRIENDS. There's a very big difference. I have no control what LBT mods discuss with their friends on FB.

2) Wasn't the posts deleted from FB anyway ?

Maybe we should all go grab a glass (or container for a few of us) and just move on to something a little more constructive ?

I will not take something to private that was brought out publicly - who are you to suggest I do otherwise- you have had no interaction with me ever - why start now.

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Who am I to suggest that you follow the rules ? I know you're intelligent enough to answer that question on your own.

You should be ashamed of yourself and the way this site has changed.

LBT hasn't changed, it's still a cornucopia of amazing knowledge and many supportive members. I go to sleep with a big smile every night knowing that people are being supported through my hard work.

Please inform your mod's that I am no f'ing follower - a friend - one that you will probably never have the joy of knowing - your loss!

Your (writing) style is very combative, I'd relax and take it down a notch.

I will no longer discuss this topic any further if it's not via PM. I would appreciate the respect of having you do the same please.

[Brandy~ 2]

I am going to step in and defend myself. I cannot believe what is going on here. Yes, I was slammed in a thread and got tired of seeing all the complaints going on over the moderator team deciding to ban someone. I had worked about 70 hours that week putting on a major event at work, and ended the week with the flu. So, as I admitted then, I was a bit on edge. I am a human being, we all are. My statement on Facebook never mentioned anyone's name. NEVER! It said I wish people would quit whining and have another glass of wine. As soon as I posted it, I realized I shouldn't have, even though I didn't in any way, shape or form indicate who or what I was talking about. I deleted the status within two minutes of posting it. I told Alex about it as well.

Now seriously, is that what this is all about? Because, it really seems blown way, way out of proportion to me.

well when a ton of your friends come here and read it and then go to FB you know. No one told me who it was.. Guess what yep it was me I said hey Glou SUSAN is talking smack about you wth!! It was that obvious. Do you notice thats about when I came back to LBT? I was like omg what is goin on and came back. sad sad sad..

It was well over 2 minutes.. I know I posted it in a private forum about it ... Then I went back and 3 others commented to you. I think I even came here and said something.

You have got to be more professional. You can just have a bad week and ruin other peoples day.

You want to be a mod but you have to be much more diplomatic.

Like I said a doctor running to church and asking an entire room to pray for someones illness when they havent announced what they had.

[kcmagu 3]

KC, nobody was forced out initially. Somebody broke some rules, was given a temporary suspension, signed back on under false accounts numerous times to post egregious remarks and then was permanently banned. But thanks for calling my decision-making "poor".... I guess we should totally let members say that other members have sex with dogs and cows.

You know what Plain - I am sure having to go back and explain myself a lot - probably the rum - but I'm ok with having to do so - it tends to solve problems from continuing down a bad direction (sometimes)

I do have issues with HH being banned - but maybe not in the way it seems from my post - you see I understand that he broke rules and may have indeed behaved badly (although the receiving end of badness deserved it in my book) my problem is that:

1 - I miss him (yes someone who I had a public outburst with on this very same thread)

2 - There seems to be a miss-communication regarding any corrective communication/action being taken before suspension.

So yes I don't like the decision that he was gone and I am calling it poor b.c that's how I feel. If you had a part in making that decision then sadly you have saddened me - I am not maliciously calling you a bad/poor decision maker - I am not making this personal - which you seem to have taken it.

I say again that I enjoy you here and FB - in this specific issue we disagree and I happen to be angry tonight

I have the capacity to get by this - the question is do you?

[Brandy~ 2]

I am going to post the copy paste of SUSANS STATUS:

Brandy Clifford wrote

at 6:43am on September 2nd, 2009

Whats susan deal with her status?

I am sick and tired of people whining about something that they have no clue about it. Get over it, move on and find something new to bitch about. Go have another glass of wine and chill.

One of you upset her again? lol

[Brandy~ 2]

i can now provide my puppy w/bathroom reading material - she's advanced that way:rolleyes2:

really alex??

highly insulting to those that take the time to support posts - if it's all about you, i look forward to seeing you more often on the pre/post op threads.

2 years and this is the first time I recall seeing Alex in a thread. Yes I am upset.

Someone wanna run the stats on the amount of posts I have made welcoming people in the new thread? SAYING WELCOME TO LBT?