Mariah Carey was reportedly sleeved

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I have say good for her!

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[Healthy_life2 8,319]

@temkins

I'm not pissy with your post. lol I'm pissy with the media. Please forgive my rant.

[But at the same time I never forget, that celebrities are behavior models for many of us. That adds some extra responsibilities]

I leave it to the medical professionals. They are responsible to inform, promote and educate the benefits of bariatrics. I would never take a celebrity's advice on anything. Most things I see from celebrities are unrealistic and deceptive

I would hope celebrities are not role models. Air brushed and just as flawed as anyone else. We are sold we are not good enough. We need to be young, thin, live these amazing lives with lots of money.

It's all about making money. Celebrity status is sold to society. (TMZ , movies,music artists,Kardashians sports figures) We are fed news articles, their product, their commercials. All to keep them relevant and in the public eye.

[Many stars are advertising very questionable health and sports products,]

Amen! How many times do you see infomercials, tabloids, workout equipment, magazine ads promising quick weight loss. We know it's all BS.

[you just can't claim you are doing just sports if you did a VSG - others will be trying to do the same and obviously will fail, piling up depression and diffidence.]

Yes, I can and do claim that I eat healthy and workout. ( All are true statements) I don't feel the need to share my personal experience about surgery with everyone. I'm not responsible for anyone's choices and emotions in life.

My eyes roll every new years when the weight loss commercials start.

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On 9.11.2017 at 6:44 AM, jenn1 said:

Many people that are not celebrities have chosen not to tell anyone. Why would celebs be held to a different standard?

Well, they're celebrities... The cameras made them famous. They need the cameras. Otherwise they would vanish and wouldn't be famous anymore. They put themselves out there - with the good, the bad and the ugly.

Once you're famous you aren't able to say "Oh, I don't want the media to write about this!!!" - once you have decided to put yourself in front of a camera you are in front of the camera. It comes with their job. Every job has its downside and that's the downside of being a celebrity (I'm not keen on working nights, weekends, holidays and 24 h shifts either but it comes with my job).

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On 10.11.2017 at 9:42 PM, jenn1 said:

[you just can't claim you are doing just sports if you did a VSG - others will be trying to do the same and obviously will fail, piling up depression and diffidence.]

Yes, I can and do claim that I eat healthy and workout. ( All are true statements) I don't feel the need to share my personal experience about surgery with everyone. I'm not responsible for anyone's choices and emotions in life.

Well, leaving out that surgery part makes you hiding a very essential part of the truth. Of course nobody can force you to tell people you had surgery when asked about how you did lose the weight but leaving out that little detail makes you quite a bit of an impostor who's hiding a very powerful tool that helped her achieve her goals.

Edited November 12, 2017 by summerset

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1 hour ago, summerset said:

Well, leaving out that surgery part makes you hiding a very essential part of the truth. Of course nobody can force you to tell people you had surgery when asked about how you did lose the weight but leaving out that little detail makes you quite a bit of an impostor who's hiding a very powerful tool that helped her achieve her goals.

Exactly!

[Healthy_life2 8,319]

4 hours ago, summerset said:

Well, they're celebrities... The cameras made them famous. They need the cameras. Otherwise they would vanish and wouldn't be famous anymore. They put themselves out there - with the good, the bad and the ugly.

Once you're famous you aren't able to say "Oh, I don't want the media to write about this!!!" - once you have decided to put yourself in front of a camera you are in front of the camera. It comes with their job. Every job has its downside and that's the downside of being a celebrity (I'm not keen on working nights, weekends, holidays and 24 h shifts either but it comes with my job).

Mirah chose to share this information. I'm ok with people sharing that they had surgery or if they choose not to disclose medical procedures. It's choice we all should have.

What are your thoughts on HIPAA medical privacy and practice law?

HIPAA Medical privacy act laws click here

So you are saying no one has the right to medical privacy? That it comes with our job's? We should share and trade anyones medical records online or the media is fine?

I get that the media will dig and find out that they had surgery. Does that make it right? Should they be able to share anyones medical information with the world.?

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2 hours ago, summerset said:

Well, leaving out that surgery part makes you hiding a very essential part of the truth. Of course nobody can force you to tell people you had surgery when asked about how you did lose the weight but leaving out that little detail makes you quite a bit of an impostor who's hiding a very powerful tool that helped her achieve her goals.

You can label people how ever you want. I still deserve privacy of my medical choices and procedures like anyone else in life.

Same argument:

leaving out that you had half of your brain removed to treat cancer is an essential part of the truth. No one can force you to tell about your cancer procedure, but leaving it out makes you a bit of imposter hiding a powerful surgery/tool that may have help achieve your goal of improving health.

Is this hiding the truth or not disclosing your private medical situation.

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1 hour ago, temkins said:

Exactly!

We will just agree to not agree. I believe everyone has the right to medical privacy HIPAA Law.

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/privacy/laws-regulations/index.html

You can label people how ever you want. I still deserve privacy of my medical choices and procedures like anyone else in life.

Same argument:

leaving out that you had half of your brain removed to treat cancer is an essential part of the truth. No one can force you to tell about your cancer procedure, but leaving it out makes you a bit of imposter hiding a powerful surgery/tool that may have help achieve your goal of improving health.

Is this hiding the truth or choosing not to disclose your private medical situation?

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1 hour ago, jenn1 said:

What are your thoughts on HIPAA medical privacy and practice law?

HIPAA? That's for medical professionals only. If Auntie Ethel and Uncle Bob or Your Best Friend choose to tell everyone you had WLS - nothing you can do about it.

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So you are saying no one has the right to medical privacy? That it comes with our job's? We should share and trade anyones medical records online or the media is fine?

You're clearly overreacting here and I think you know it.

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I get that the media will dig and find out that they had surgery. Does that make it right? Should they be able to share anyones medical information with the world.?

I absolutely get that a celebrity wouldn't want certain information to be shared with the world. Of course they would want only the information shared that serves the purpose of making them more popular but that's not how it works and I think that all the stars and starlets are pretty much aware of this. The only possibility to prevent this seems to be - not to become a celebrity.

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1 hour ago, jenn1 said:

leaving out that you had half of your brain removed to treat cancer is an essential part of the truth. No one can force you to tell about your cancer procedure, but leaving it out makes you a bit of imposter hiding a powerful surgery/tool that may have help achieve your goal of improving health.

I can understand you want to lash out at me and I knew you would the moment I pressed "submit reply" but like it or not - your cancer analogy is an even worse scenario.

If a patient with brain cancer asks you how you've conquered your cancer and you answer is e. g. "with herbal teas and meditation", leaving out the surgery detail - do you really think it's alright to raise hopes in a severely ill patient that you can treat a condition like this without surgery and with herbal teas and meditation only?

When it comes to weight loss you give the impression that you did it without the help of surgery, raising false hopes in them. Why not tell them "I don't want to talk about it" instead of indirectly lying to them?

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Ah whatever, luckily you hold the opinion that people are not responsible for other people's emotions and choices... that gives me room to tell you what's my opinion within the rules of this board without having to fear that I'm responsible for your further reactions.

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4 minutes ago, summerset said:

HIPAA? That's for medical professionals only. If Auntie Ethel and Uncle Bob or Your Best Friend choose to tell everyone you had WLS - nothing you can do about it.

You're clearly overreacting here and I think you know it.

I absolutely get that a celebrity wouldn't want certain information to be shared with the world. Of course they would want only the information shared that serves the purpose of making them more popular but that's not how it works and I think that all the stars and starlets are pretty much aware of this. The only possibility to prevent this seems to be - not to become a celebrity.

Label this an overreaction or a response to your and other posted opinions. This is a forum right???

Absolutely, Celebrities have less privacy,

You wrote: leaving out that surgery part makes you hiding a very essential part of the truth. leaving out that little detail makes you quite a bit of an impostor who's hiding a very powerful tool that helped her achieve her goals.

There is no reason that celebrities should be held to a different standard. Why would it be wrong for them not to disclose any medical conditions or surgery?

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I get many things can be misunderstood in a chat forum. You are confusing my opinion as a personal attack. It's only a debate on this subject. I have no anger or ill feelings here.

I'm simply questioning why people would be getting medical advice from a celebrity or a complete stranger? Why aren't they researching and getting straight medical advice?

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On 11/7/2017 at 10:39 AM, jenn1 said:

Humm after weight loss surgery...I would have to lift my breasts by hand Just to place them out of my shirt.

rofl!!!! Laughing this hard hurts 3 days post-op! hahaha!

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John Goodman denies surgery as does Tom Arnold. Find it hard to believe. I tell anyone who asks and some who don’t! I figure if my story helps someone else who is unhealthy and unhappy to come to the decision I did it’s all for the better. I wouldn’t have had the guts or even the knowledge to do it without a couple coworkers who shared their experiences with me. 6 months out and so happy I did it! Still have more to lose but feeling so much healthier and and I’m a hell of a lot happier!