I know this was mentioned before here in the Vegans/Vegetarians forums and I wanted to maybe start this thread for all things pertaining to the book that Dr. Garth Davis authored, Proteinaholic. So far I'm on chapter 6 of it and I'm just amazed with how sound it is and all the studies that are out there to support why we don't need such a high amount of protein, and why it's a culprit of obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc.... There's just so much to talk about if anyone wants to get into discussion. Now, this thread IS NOT going to be for debate. I do not want anyone coming on here advocating high protein and what they "know" and debating with any of us who are or evolving into plant based, vegans or vegetarians. I want to share the things I've learned from the book and if anyone wants to challenge those, READ THE BOOK FIRST, and then you can come and talk about it. If you don't or haven't read the book, feel free to read the things that will be posted...and do your own homework to find these facts/truths out for yourself. I literally don't have time to do a protein ping pong match...so don't start one. You will be ignored.

Okay, with that said and out of the way, the first thing I want to mention is that Dr. Davis actually dispels the myths about protein and why our bodies don't need so much. It is not an opinionated book, it's a science/fact book. It makes TOTAL sense. He is quite comical too. The parts where he plays out his doctor/patient dialogues hit me the most...because I can relate to how I was educated about protein being what we all need. I had the same mentalities as he did regarding it, but after I started watching documentaries on plant based diets for the past couple of years, I've slowly become open to all the health benefits of eating plant based. But now, even though I knew plant based is great for the health, I didn't know that the protein component was/is what was causing so many problems in my health, my husband's, etc. Now, I've got science and truth to understand the premise of protein. The history of why, what Dr Davis talks about, we western society pick apart whole foods and live based off of macronutrients. Now, it just boggles me why we do that. The other thing that rings true and is nice knowing, is that he is a bariatric surgeon too. He knows what he's coaching/telling his patients. He knows that he was not a nutritionist, didn't know a single thing, but the one hour of nutrition studies in his school days, but he took the time to dive into history, studies, reports, etc to bring light to why western society is so unhealthy, and most of it is based on animal protein.

Wow.

Read the book!

15 minutes ago, Apple1 said:

Check out this recipe for tofu Parmesan. I am going to make it with vegan Parmesan cheese this weekend and spinach. I am really trying to avoid cheese so I am trying to learn how to do some of the vegan cheeses.

Definitely want to know how this turns out!

17 minutes ago, Apple1 said:

Check out this recipe for tofu Parmesan. I am going to make it with vegan Parmesan cheese this weekend and spinach. I am really trying to avoid cheese so I am trying to learn how to do some of the vegan cheeses.

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/13896/tofu-parmigiana/

Ooh, that looks amazing! Definitely try the Follow Your Heart grated parm with that. The other parms are just the sprinkle on type and wouldn't make that melty goodness on top. Going to try this!

7 minutes ago, fruitandveggies said:

Ooh, that looks amazing! Definitely try the Follow Your Heart grated parm with that. The other parms are just the sprinkle on type and wouldn't make that melty goodness on top. Going to try this!

Thank you for that link. I don't think I can get that around here, but I am going to look at my local co-op where I find most of my WFPB stuff.

does it taste like cheese?

They might have it! If you have a Whole Foods they will have it too. I think it tastes pretty close but I haven't had dairy in over a decade so I've all but forgotten the flavor. But you'll find that none of the vegan cheese are really JUST like dairy cheese. They are very tasty in their own right, but they're slightly different (ranging to VERY different). You can make some items that people would have no idea (like my queso or mac and cheese are a hit at parties) but some will just take a bit of adjusting. Again, it's still very tasty, it's just different from dairy.

I did want to interject a morsel. For those that find they still need a bit of animal foods, don't despair.

The Okinawans of Japan DID eat a primarily vegetarian diet, but even so, they did also consume a couple eggs a week, the equivalent of one 4oz serving of fish a week, and two 3oz servings of pork a week.

If you add that up, they had a full-size portion of animal protein 4 nights of the week. Which is substantial for us bariatric folks.

(It's just not much when compared to the lumberjack that eats 4 eggs and 1/4 pound of bacon for breakfast, 8oz of hamburger patties for lunch, a 12oz ribeye for dinner, and a pint of ice cream for dessert.)

5 minutes ago, Berry78 said:

I did want to interject a morsel. For those that find they still need a bit of animal foods, don't despair.

The Okinawans of Japan DID eat a primarily vegetarian diet, but even so, they did also consume a couple eggs a week, the equivalent of one 4oz serving of fish a week, and two 3oz servings of pork a week.

If you add that up, they had a full-size portion of animal Protein 4 nights of the week. Which is substantial for us bariatric folks.

(It's just not much when compared to the lumberjack that eats 4 eggs and 1/4 pound of bacon for Breakfast, 8oz of hamburger patties for lunch, a 12oz ribeye for dinner, and a pint of ice cream for dessert.)

I agree with this. I don't think anyone should despair. Simply making the effort to eat more fruits, veggies, seeds, nuts and whole grains and less meat is a great place to start. In fact the research shows that eating more of the whole foods helps to protect you from any damage eating some meat may otherwise cause.

I am sure there will be some compromises in my future, but I am not going to stress about it. For now I am just enjoying the healthy ride I am on...lol..

2 hours ago, Apple1 said:

I agree with this. I don't think anyone should despair. Simply making the effort to eat more fruits, veggies, seeds, nuts and whole grains and less meat is a great place to start. In fact the research shows that eating more of the whole foods helps to protect you from any damage eating some meat may otherwise cause.

I am sure there will be some compromises in my future, but I am not going to stress about it. For now I am just enjoying the healthy ride I am on...lol..

I too agree. Incorporating more fruits and veggies and making it the star on your plate helps. It's easy that I didn't really care for meat in the first place, but I don't mind having it sparingly...maybe special occasions or if I'm invited to dinner and the main course is meat. I have to be respectful. ?

Totally forgot to take a pic, but I made this awesome recipe today. One of the times I wish I couldn't just eat a few bites! Lol Had to eliminate the bun after two bites so that I don't get too full too quick though.

http://peasandcrayons.com/2016/09/buffalo-chickpea-veggie-burgers.html

1 minute ago, Newme17 said:

Totally forgot to take a pic, but I made this awesome recipe today. One of the times I wish I couldn't just eat a few bites! Lol Had to eliminate the bun after two bites so that I don't get too full too quick though.

http://peasandcrayons.com/2016/09/buffalo-chickpea-veggie-burgers.html

This looks amazing. I can't wait until I can eat normal food again. I miss my veggies soo much!

Was at the grocery store today and ran in to a lady at the vegan/produce area. She gave me such great reviews on so many of the products. I was buying some veggie "hotdogs" (hopefully I can get my kids to like them!) She stated that she went plant based after watching a few documentaries back in April and hasn't turned back since. Now I can't wait to try some of the other items...it really has been fun with the variety of WFPB dishes. There really is no end....?

3 minutes ago, Cherbear416 said:

This looks amazing. I can't wait until I can eat normal food again. I miss my veggies soo much!

You will get there before you know it. It's hard to imagine that it's only been 3.5 months since surgery for me, I'm sure you'll feel the same at this time as well and to enjoy your veggies!

21 minutes ago, Newme17 said:

Totally forgot to take a pic, but I made this awesome recipe today. One of the times I wish I couldn't just eat a few bites! Lol Had to eliminate the bun after two bites so that I don't get too full too quick though.

http://peasandcrayons.com/2016/09/buffalo-chickpea-veggie-burgers.html

I am definitely making those!!! They look delicious.

3 minutes ago, Apple1 said:

I am definitely making those!!! They look delicious.

I was not disappointed! ? Yum!

19 minutes ago, Newme17 said:

Was at the grocery store today and ran in to a lady at the vegan/produce area. She gave me such great reviews on so many of the products. I was buying some veggie "hotdogs" (hopefully I can get my kids to like them!) She stated that she went plant based after watching a few documentaries back in April and hasn't turned back since. Now I can't wait to try some of the other items...it really has been fun with the variety of WFPB dishes. There really is no end....?

I know. I have found so many recipes I would like to try, but I don't have time to cook them all. I want to make a goal to cook one or two new things each week.

Omg @Newme17 those look incredible! My hubby will love them, thanks for sharing!

And PS, the Field Roast brand of hot dogs are the best!!