I know this was mentioned before here in the Vegans/Vegetarians forums and I wanted to maybe start this thread for all things pertaining to the book that Dr. Garth Davis authored, Proteinaholic. So far I'm on chapter 6 of it and I'm just amazed with how sound it is and all the studies that are out there to support why we don't need such a high amount of protein, and why it's a culprit of obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc.... There's just so much to talk about if anyone wants to get into discussion. Now, this thread IS NOT going to be for debate. I do not want anyone coming on here advocating high protein and what they "know" and debating with any of us who are or evolving into plant based, vegans or vegetarians. I want to share the things I've learned from the book and if anyone wants to challenge those, READ THE BOOK FIRST, and then you can come and talk about it. If you don't or haven't read the book, feel free to read the things that will be posted...and do your own homework to find these facts/truths out for yourself. I literally don't have time to do a protein ping pong match...so don't start one. You will be ignored.

Okay, with that said and out of the way, the first thing I want to mention is that Dr. Davis actually dispels the myths about protein and why our bodies don't need so much. It is not an opinionated book, it's a science/fact book. It makes TOTAL sense. He is quite comical too. The parts where he plays out his doctor/patient dialogues hit me the most...because I can relate to how I was educated about protein being what we all need. I had the same mentalities as he did regarding it, but after I started watching documentaries on plant based diets for the past couple of years, I've slowly become open to all the health benefits of eating plant based. But now, even though I knew plant based is great for the health, I didn't know that the protein component was/is what was causing so many problems in my health, my husband's, etc. Now, I've got science and truth to understand the premise of protein. The history of why, what Dr Davis talks about, we western society pick apart whole foods and live based off of macronutrients. Now, it just boggles me why we do that. The other thing that rings true and is nice knowing, is that he is a bariatric surgeon too. He knows what he's coaching/telling his patients. He knows that he was not a nutritionist, didn't know a single thing, but the one hour of nutrition studies in his school days, but he took the time to dive into history, studies, reports, etc to bring light to why western society is so unhealthy, and most of it is based on animal protein.

Wow.

Read the book!

18 hours ago, OmaJ said:

I made a Veggie Butternut Squash Chili recipe this week tweaking 2 different recipes. (One was the sweet potato recipe on here). It turned out SO tasty & I've given some to loved ones and had it several times myself (sticking to my 1 cup limit - sometimes I just have half a cup).

So I used the following ingredients:

Cubed butternut squash (found in produce section)

1 can of low sodium black Beans drained/rinsed

1 can of Bushes Chili Beans medium

1 can of Pinto beans drained/rinsed and blended in Ninja blender

1 can of Mild Rotel

1 can of Hunts diced basil, garlic & oregano tomatoes

Diced garlic (2 heaping Tbsp.)

1 Tbsp chili powder

1 1/2 tsp. Cumin

1 1/2 tsp. Paprika

1 tsp. Oregano

4 cups vegetable broth

First sauteed a mixture of: diced onion, celery, carrots found in produce section. Then added the rest of the ingredients brought to a boil, turned down heat to simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. The next day I added in a cooked sweet potato diced to the leftovers. Delicious!

Omaj That sounds yummy! I love Chili, soup, stew weather! I will have to try this.

Thank you! ? I tried to correct spelling of a word & it posted my recipe twice, LOL. Attempted to delete one, but didn't see an option to.

Found this at the grocery store. First time I’ve found pea protein in liquid form. Was hesitant, but tastes great. A bit thicker than soy or almond milk, and a tiny amount of noticeable grit, but far less than powdered. Had it in coffee and it was great!

On 11/16/2017 at 1:55 PM, smooshycheeks said:

Found this at the grocery store. First time I’ve found pea Protein in liquid form. Was hesitant, but tastes great. A bit thicker than soy or almond milk, and a tiny amount of noticeable grit, but far less than powdered. Had it in coffee and it was great!

I’ve had something similar, it was ok. I think if I just used it for mixing then I’ll stick to it. I just use almond milk for everything now. But if I happen to see this one, I’ll pick it up to try it too. Thanks for sharing!

My snow day plant based breakfast of Kashi cereal with blackberries, blueberries, and soy milk. Proteinaholic on my Kindle and How Not to Die in hardcover. Going to relax and read all day!!!

On 1/4/2018 at 12:44 PM, Little Green said:

My snow day plant based Breakfast of Kashi Cereal with blackberries, blueberries, and soy milk. Proteinaholic on my Kindle and How Not to Die in hardcover. Going to relax and read all day!!!

I hope you enjoyed your day! It looked very relaxing. ? I still have got to get Dr Greger’s book. I’ve heard nothing but great things about it.

I can't get use to almond milk somehow - I always use soy. I only use almond milk (don't want to use soy in everything) if the taste of the other ingredients definitely overpowers the almond milk.

4 hours ago, summerset said:

I can't get use to almond milk somehow

It was a quantum leap to accept a quirky flavour at first but I liked it (unsweetened almond milk) with egg whites and protein powder and was able to have it in other drinks and food over time.

I am eventually going to be vegetarian then vegan as I make changes in steady steps.

I really like unsweetened soy milk but the one I buy from Trader Joe's isn't fortified with calcium. So I tried one from the regular grocery store that is both fortified and sweetened. It's not awful but I definitely like the unsweetened better. (This is over cereal, I don't drink it straight.) Any brand recommendations for unsweetened soy milk with added calcium would be welcome!

On 1/10/2018 at 10:37 PM, Newme17 said:

I hope you enjoyed your day! It looked very relaxing. ? I still have got to get Dr Greger’s book. I’ve heard nothing but great things about it.

To me it's similar to Dr. Davis's book but on steroids. I know you've seen his videos on NutritionFacts.org so imagine a whole book made up of those videos. It's very enjoyable but definitely brain-heavy. I just finished part 1 where he talks about all the studies and "how not to die" and I usually did 2 chapters per day just to let my brain rest and soak up the info in between. Now I'm starting part 2 where he talks about the daily dozen and what foods should make up the bulk of your diet.

On 1/15/2018 at 2:29 PM, Little Green said:

daily dozen

He has an easy app to journal those foods. I don’t care for journaling anything and tried it, but obviously I’m not wired to even do that easy app! Lol.

I just had my 1 month postop with dietician and surgeon. I was cleared to eat anything (??) and given an eating plan with a daily goal of 80-90 grams of protein. I am not a scientist, doctor, or dietician, but I just know this can't be right.

How is it that we have all these amazing and miraculous feats of science and technology, but the medical and scientific community cannot agree on what we should be eating?

I cannot eat that much protein. I try to do 60 but many days I just don't eat a lot. I have fat, let my body eat that. [emoji1] [emoji1]

HW 274 SW 263 GW 125 GASTRIC SLEEVE 7/21/17. Height 5'1" instagram: K_aane_VSG

I'm so thankful that my surgeon has very reasonable protein recommendations - only 50g minimum for women. That should be easily doable with protein drinks at the beginning and hopefully with food as well once I can eat more. Can't imagine having to reach 80 or 90g or risk being fussed at by the surgeon!

On 1/23/2018 at 12:05 AM, Little Green said:

I'm so thankful that my surgeon has very reasonable Protein recommendations - only 50g minimum for women. That should be easily doable with Protein Drinks at the beginning and hopefully with food as well once I can eat more. Can't imagine having to reach 80 or 90g or risk being fussed at by the surgeon!

I’m thankful for your surgeon too!!!! I was not given a set amount, but “just eat protein first”. I focused on that in the early days as I was getting acquainted with science and how our bodies work with all that extra protein (or doesn’t work). I have erased my mindset of labeling my foods by macro and micro nutrients. I don’t do protein, but beans, kale, etc. yum. Lol. Kale...my favorite! ??