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Band to Sleeve Failure and "Desperate"

Please help!!!!

I had band to sleeve conversion 2 weeks ago, it all went great, healed rapidly, no nausea, no pain, no issues....

Also, NO restriction at all, from day one...

Day after surgery after my leak test, passed with flying colors I was given my first shake, drank the whole thing in less than 10 minutes, after one week on liquids only, at my first follow up I was told since everything was going great to move on to soft foods, I eat my first on day 8, finish the whole thing in no time and NO restriction, had Soups NO restriction, had cottage cheese NO restriction, had ground chicken NO restriction, had fish NO restriction, had shrimp NO restriction....

I'm consuming around 550 to 600 calories per day NO restriction.... also "NO Weight LOSS either"

I'm two and 1/2 weeks post op and only lost the weight that I gained while at the hospital with all the fluids that you get pumped up, which was only 6 pounds.... I lost more on one week during prep prior to my surgery on my own.

All and all I've only lost "2" pounds in 2 and a 1/2 weeks!!!

I' m constantly hungry because I have NO restriction....

I called my dietitian and she says you just have to try harder..... Harder at what? she says you need diet counseling, I say all I need is RESTRICTION...

Today I saw my doctor and he says maybe you are not sensitive because you had a band and your body is used to it.... used to what???

Not having restriction.... I say you removed 70% of my stomach right? I shouldn't be this hungry and I should have some restriction, right?

He says, lets adjust your meals, only have three meals a day and see you in two weeks, I'm not concern about you only loosing 2 pounds in two weeks; lets see what happens then.

Is there anyone out there that has gone through this????

I'm desperate, please help

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I had band to sleeve conversion in November. I wouldn't say I felt no restriction, but I didn't notice the "full" feeling until I was eating real food~ chicken with cooked veg, ground turkey with cheese and sauce, etc. Looking at your statistics, you started at a lower weight so I wouldn't expect you to drop a ton right away....disappointing as that is. hang in there.

I was band to sleeve in September and I never experienced loss of appetite or any restriction, even at 6 months out I struggle everyday. I initially lost about 15 lbs and now Iv gained 7 back, Iv started running 2 - 3 miles a couple times a week, I figure it's all on me now and I 100% believe this didn't work for me because of my history of dilated pouches with the band, I hope you have better luck.

Ok, it was my experience that due the nerves that are cut during sleeve surgery that i couldn't really feel restriction well until about 6 weeks post op... and as I started transitioning to firmer food. I think you might be panicking too soon. I ate by the measuring spoon and cup and the clock those first 2 months because I could not trust what my tummy was telling me. That DID change, and it was hard to transition to solids but i did it and was very successful. Hang in there and good luck.

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I was band to sleeve in September and I never experienced loss of appetite or any restriction, even at 6 months out I struggle everyday. I initially lost about 15 lbs and now Iv gained 7 back, Iv started running 2 - 3 miles a couple times a week, I figure it's all on me now and I 100% believe this didn't work for me because of my history of dilated pouches with the band, I hope you have better luck.

I'm struggling not to eat more every day, I felt more restriction before re moved my band.... I feel so hungry, like throwing up hungry. I stop myself every time I get this hunger pangs and down a bottle of Water, but as soon as the water passes through the pain is back. I'm staying of the scale for a week and see how it pans out, working out every day and measuring everything.... something is gotta give. Thanks for sharing your story with me.

Here's my input (for what it's worth)... I had the band for 7 yrs and my revision is coming up on the 1yr. mark. I discovered (after the nerve healing time mentioned) that my interpretation of restriction was skewed by my experience with the band. With my band, what I thought was restriction was really food backed up into my esophagus instead. Now, I have a better understanding of how restriction is supposed to feel. Give yourself some time to focus on that feeling. Eat slowly, pause, and wait. The full feeling (at least for me) ended up in a different place compared to what I experienced with my band. Good luck!

Oh no...food backed up....must be bad...glad you did the revision...me too...I am not loosing too much...body was already used to less food and high Protein..

But I am hopeful...with less food more Water and exercise we will loose weight.

"Throwing up hungry" "the pain is back" sounds to me like it is acid not hunger. Make sure you are taking your PPI everyday this will definitely help you.

I was band to sleeve in September and I never experienced loss of appetite or any restriction, even at 6 months out I struggle everyday. I initially lost about 15 lbs and now Iv gained 7 back, Iv started running 2 - 3 miles a couple times a week, I figure it's all on me now and I 100% believe this didn't work for me because of my history of dilated pouches with the band, I hope you have better luck.

I'm struggling not to eat more every day, I felt more restriction before re moved my band.... I feel so hungry, like throwing up hungry. I stop myself every time I get this hunger pangs and down a bottle of Water, but as soon as the water passes through the pain is back. I'm staying of the scale for a week and see how it pans out, working out every day and measuring everything.... something is gotta give. Thanks for sharing your story with me.

Try taking some Maalox or Rolaids when you feel hungry. It could very well be acid. I was on 40mg Omeprazole but still got acid "hunger pains" in the first 6 weeks. Maalox really helped. At 3 months out I'm now off all PPI's and antacids. My surgeon uses a 32 bougie and oversews, so I have very good restriction. Do you know what your surgeon used?

As for your slow weight loss, you are basically starting at the point a lot of people are finishing. Your BMI is very low for WLS and this is where everyone's weight loss really slows down. Unfortunately You may not get the magical "honeymoon period" because your body and metabolism is pre-adjusted from your band.

I agree with Kindle...our bodies are used to eating less..eating more Protein,drinking more Water...so loosing weight is more tough for us..

but we will succeed...and use this tool well.

Hi there,

I am new to this forum, and I am considering revision band to sleeve surgery. I've watched multiple youtube videos, some good and some horrible; therefore, I am very nervous to meet with the new surgeon tomorrow. I like this forum and it is very helpful. Because the band did not work out as well as I thought it would, my biggest fear with the revision is failing. I appreciate how you all give your feed back and encouragement. :mellow: so so nervous!!

I am having the band to sleeve revision on April 12. Fingers crossed. I'm using a very experienced surgeon who has done over 1000 revisions. He says the only way I will wake up without it is if I have an eroded band. Has anyone here had an eroded band and what was your symptoms? I have a lot of restriction and find myself hugging the toilet often especially when eating protein like meat and breads. I'm just stressed and hoping for one surgery. Can anyone help?

I am having the band to sleeve revision on April 12. Fingers crossed. I'm using a very experienced surgeon who has done over 1000 revisions. He says the only way I will wake up without it is if I have an eroded band. Has anyone here had an eroded band and what was your symptoms? I have a lot of restriction and find myself hugging the toilet often especially when eating protein like meat and breads. I'm just stressed and hoping for one surgery. Can anyone help?

I had my revision on Feb 25... My Dr said out of the 1000 he's done, he only couldn't perform 1... It's rare that you wake up without a sleeve! You'll do fine!

Unlike many others here, I was able to eat soft solids at 2 weeks out (including chicken or ground beef). I am 2 months out right now. I DO experience hunger--- pretty much every 3-4 hours-- but I also exercise every day (some days at a pretty intense level). I find that starting with Protein really helps fill me up. I cannot eat more than 4-5 oz of anything at a time.

Also, I have found that for some people, the focus is rapid weight loss. I have to admit-- I was one of those folks, initially. But now, I am working on learning how to live my life with my new stomach--- eating foods that are nourishing, and taste good. Moving my body every day. Learning to deal with my emotions without food. Baby steps, steady progress. :)

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Here's my input (for what it's worth)... I had the band for 7 yrs and my revision is coming up on the 1yr. mark. I discovered (after the nerve healing time mentioned) that my interpretation of restriction was skewed by my experience with the band. With my band, what I thought was restriction was really food backed up into my esophagus instead. Now, I have a better understanding of how restriction is supposed to feel. Give yourself some time to focus on that feeling. Eat slowly, pause, and wait. The full feeling (at least for me) ended up in a different place compared to what I experienced with my band. Good luck!

Thanks for sharing your experience; I'm pacing myself now, still not getting the filled feeling yet and I guess it will come in time.

My biggest fear is that since I can eat more than I'm supposed to that I will go back to my old habits and hang in there for a while but once I'm tired of it I will start over eating again. The purpose of the surgery is that it will restrict me from over eating, with 70% of my stomach gone I shouldn't be able to eat more than 30%.

I'm taking baby steps and am praying that it will come soon, I remember with the band getting to the sweet spot and I felt restriction right away. I can see that you have lost a significant amount of weight in one year. Congratulations on that.

Was your weight loss slow?

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Unlike many others here, I was able to eat soft solids at 2 weeks out (including chicken or ground beef). I am 2 months out right now. I DO experience hunger--- pretty much every 3-4 hours-- but I also exercise every day (some days at a pretty intense level). I find that starting with Protein really helps fill me up. I cannot eat more than 4-5 oz of anything at a time.

Also, I have found that for some people, the focus is rapid weight loss. I have to admit-- I was one of those folks, initially. But now, I am working on learning how to live my life with my new stomach--- eating foods that are nourishing, and taste good. Moving my body every day. Learning to deal with my emotions without food. Baby steps, steady progress. :)

Thanks for sharing your experience, if I could only get full on 4 to 5 oz, specially with Soups, I can down a whole bowl of Soup, not get full and I don't know if I should eat something else to get full. I try to stay away from eating more, I opt to drink Water but them I'm even hungrier afterwards.

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