You surgeon can only givebyounthe tools to be a success. Yet I've read on here people still trying to cheat or do a easy way out

If your not prepared to change for good why waste the time or money

A surgeon gives rules to follow. People need to stop wondering about other surgeons and follow the your paying for

If you smoker you have no business gettingbthevsleeve. The doctor tells you his for a reason. If you can't stick to a two week pre op diet how do you expect to becacsuccess withbthevsleeve

I wish everyone great success. And a healthy journey. Remember nothing taste as good as thin feels

I think this tread needs to be deleted at this point....

Enough said. Enough feeLings hurts.

This is a SUPPORT GROUP

All the rest of this aside I think the OP was out of line and quite judgmental. I am not weighing the validity of their opinion but to initiate a post which basically called out the majority of people struggling with this process is a bit high and mighty to the rest of us - when the reality is - if the OP would be honest and come clean they probably have struggled w similar issues. Otherwise they wouldn't be here. A little compassion and empathy goes much further than judging and degrading. IMO

I think this tread needs to be deleted at this point....

Enough said. Enough feeLings hurts.

This is a SUPPORT GROUP

No, it really isn't. There are a select few of people here that are supportive, everyone else lives on a high horse because of lack of moderation and barriers set forth by the staff to tell people to sit down and shut up if they're just going to preach on about how perfect they are and what everyone else needs to do. If you're seriously in need of support, I would find a support group close by, or find several select members here whom you can relate to and seek support from them.

You're not seriously defending smoking after getting the sleeve, are you? Just because people have smoked after getting the sleeve and haven't had any issues doesn't mean that it isn't a very real risk. It's like playing Russian roulette.

Nope, not at all. Just saying I feel people who preach about not smoking non stop are the same likes that we've dealt with that simply tell us "food is bad for you!" No ****? Really? Fix your own life and your own self before preaching to me about my imperfections. Smoking is bad, yup, sure is. Smoking increases so many health factors, but people still do it. People who smoke, they smoke. If they want to stop, they'll seek means to stop.

I've had people get in my face about smoking pipes and cigars. I seriously smoke once a month, IF THAT. However, that same person I know has an addiction to many things that are far worse to their health and wellness than me enjoying a pipe or cigar once a month in my back yard.

Kill the high horse, get off of it.

No' date=' it really isn't. There are a select few of people here that are supportive, everyone else lives on a high horse because of lack of moderation and barriers set forth by the staff to tell people to sit down and shut up if they're just going to preach on about how perfect they are and what everyone else needs to do. If you're seriously in need of support, I would find a support group close by, or find several select members here whom you can relate to and seek support from them.[/quote']

Thanks for the heads up. Local support group meets monthly but i guess i will stick to my fb and YouTube for online support. I use to use rnytalk.com but i am getting the sleeve do i switched here... Let tell you, big difference.

I start my liquid diet tomorrow for 2weeks hope I can be strong and not cheat really need to make sure I do right for my surgery May 2oth )

Thanks for the heads up. Local support group meets monthly but i guess i will stick to my fb and YouTube for online support. I use to use rnytalk.com but i am getting the sleeve do i switched here... Let tell you' date=' big difference.[/quote']

Ours only meets once a month too. I view this as a support system too. I'm learning to skip over negative messages and focus on the positive ones. It's a shame that the Internet is full of people who love drama and argument-especially on a site like this.

I think this tread needs to be deleted at this point....

Enough said. Enough feeLings hurts.

This is a SUPPORT GROUP

It's not a support group. It's a forum for exchanging info and experiences. It's VST and not VSSG.

That said...

I don't agree with the the delivery of the OP's message. I think you can be honest and forthright without being judgmental. Otherwise your message is overlooked due to how you delivered it.

Buuuuut. This is the Internet. And these are words "typed". We don't have to respond or defend when posts like this are created. We can dismiss and move on. We didn't. Our choice.

The thread shouldn't be delete. This person expressed themselves.... Poorly IMO. However they refrained from profanity and name calling. Not every responder can say the same.

It's not a support group. It's a forum for exchanging info and experiences. It's VST and not VSSG.

That said...

I don't agree with the the delivery of the OP's message. I think you can be honest and forthright without being judgmental. Otherwise your message is overlooked due to how you delivered it.

Buuuuut. This is the Internet. And these are words "typed". We don't have to respond or defend when posts like this are created. We can dismiss and move on. We didn't. Our choice.

The thread shouldn't be delete. This person expressed themselves.... Poorly IMO. However they refrained from profanity and name calling. Not every responder can say the same.

Letting stupid people get away with being stupid, welcome to the downfall of society.

POPCORN!! POPCORN.....GIT YER POPCORN HERE!!!

Letting stupid people get away with being stupid' date=' welcome to the downfall of society.[/quote']

That's the downfall of society?

I thought it was Jersey Shore... :-P

I don't always agree with people rationalizing why there cheat and think people need to deal with the mental so they can handle their respective physical lifestyle changes

Sorry I hit the send button by mistake.

All I can say is let's agree to disagree. Can't we all just get along.

That's the downfall of society?

I thought it was Jersey Shore... :-P

I thought it was me

Oh and speaking of being dumb as a stick?

I don't even know whose fighting who anymore!

I thought it was me <img src='http://www.bariatricpal.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

Oh and speaking of being dumb as a stick?

I don't even know whose fighting who anymore!

It's - It's a Ballroom Blitz!

:-D