What are your thoughts to the above question?

Also, my nutritionist said she has sleeve patients who are a year out and who have only lost 15 pounds (she says that they choose all the wrong foods). Do you believe her?

If you have 300 or 400 pounds to lose...ya, it might be a little slow. If you have 90 pounds to lose....not so slow. It's all relative. The fewer pounds you have to lose, the slower it might be. Not always, but usually.

Oh, and yes. You can totally stall your progress dead in the Water and not lose a pound if the right work is not being done. (Eating right, exercising..) If a person eats enough junk you can totally blow this.

I agree with Dooter, 50 pounds in six months may not be slow if you started out with less to lose. As for someone being a year out and only losing 15 pounds, WOW! I can't imagine that, but I have to believe it does happen sometimes.

compared to what is what I ask myself. I get down in the dumps when I hear someone lost more weight than me. So I have to remind myself that before it took me over a year to lose 10 lbs. 50 is still a celebration. Its a journey!

compared to what is what I ask myself. I get down in the dumps when I hear someone lost more weight than me. So I have to remind myself that before it took me over a year to lose 10 lbs. 50 is still a celebration. Its a journey!

I like your attitude! I'm just starting out and I'm going to try to remember this sentiment when I hit a stall or don't drop the weight as fast as I think I should.

What are your thoughts to the above question?

Also, my nutritionist said she has sleeve patients who are a year out and who have only lost 15 pounds (she says that they choose all the wrong foods). Do you believe her?

What are your thoughts to the above question?

Also, my nutritionist said she has sleeve patients who are a year out and who have only lost 15 pounds (she says that they choose all the wrong foods). Do you believe her?

The wild card is always the client. No matter what the professionals do, or the skills they may have, or the techniques they may employ, if the client isn't invested enough in making the changes required to be different, then no matter what magic wand is brought to the table, it's not going to work.

I understand from the doctor and nutritionist that the more weight to be lost, the more dramatic the loss ...in the beginning. As the body adjusts to the new regime, it begins to be more efficient in using the calories that are consumed. So this can backfire big time. If there are no changes made to eating habits, the lower calorie intake will cause an initial wls, but if the foods chosen are sabotaging, then the more efficient your body gets at using those calories, the slower, and slower the loss. When the high calorie foods are the only source of nutrition, wls is negligible. (Living in the Middle East, the doctor and nutritionist had many examples of bariatric surgery that "didn't work" as a weight loss procedure fro these exact reasons) It is typically very difficult for people here to make the lifestyle changes necessary to sustain the new weight.

After lurking on VST for months before joining, I can definitively say that the one consistent tip, hint, trick, or suggestion is that in order to take advantage of the "tool" of bariatric surgery, one has to be prepared for a whole and complete, permanent lifestyle change. If that one piece is missing, everything else is a crap shoot with the chances of success dropping to about equal with winning the lottery.

"Winning" the lottery... through hard work,

CE

I am sure glad I returned to the vsg forum! You guys brought a lot of things out to think about. Each of you has valid and thoughtful explanations. My days will be much brighter now because of you:-)

My nut and I were talking yesterday about the ways to get calories past the sleeve. The easiest is to drink them. fruit juice, flat soda, high cal coffee drinks, milkshakes, etc are all easy for most to get high calorie foods "by" the sleeve. They can then go onto eating carbs first, then drinking with their meal to wash it down....there are ways and some folks take that route because they can't make the effort to change their life with this great tool. It's not about an occasional treat, but about really working to get that soda and milkshake into your body, which will result in very small weightless overall or loss then regaining.

With the sleeve this isn't the norm. Most are very successful, but there are always that ten percent who think its a magic bullet which allows them to eat anything. In some ways it is, but if you're pointing the gun at your forehead with a milkshake in your mouth....the bullet isn't going to do what you want it to do...we are supposed to be aiming at a target of a healthy new life, where even treats are allowed like "normal" people...but they can't be your hourly fare!

50 pounds is 50 pounds any way you look at it! You should be proud! The rest will come off -- just keep doing your thang. :-)

What are your thoughts to the above question?

Also, my nutritionist said she has sleeve patients who are a year out and who have only lost 15 pounds (she says that they choose all the wrong foods). Do you believe her?

I find it hard to believe, but I DO KNOW you can drink your calories via alcohol, cokes, milkshakes.....I guess if someone came out of surgery and did every possible thing WRONG....it's possible. Anyone that stupid is destined to fail. 50 lbs in six months is good. I lost 23 prior to surgery and another 55 in six month. I continued to lose, ending up at one time, 18 lbs below my doctor's goal weight. This is a GREAT "tool" - forced portion control. The perfect solution!!