September Bandsters

[BJean 16]

McW - Don't know whom you were jumping on, but you must not have read back quite far enough. No one was "jumping on" Bettina.

On a couple issues or topics, there were some of us who had differing opinions and experiences and were concerned that those would be ignored because Bettina was making herself out to be an "expert authority" on those topics by repeatedly stating her qualifications. If a reader thinks someone is an "expert", why read any further or consider a different source of information? When I said something to Bettina about it, she became very defensive and acted wounded.

No one ever, to my knowledge, has had a problem with anyone speaking their mind here. But we should ALL be able to do it with impunity, not just ones with whom you may agree. Furthermore, if you have information and experiences that don't jibe with someone who is sharing information contrary to yours, why can't you talk about it without everybody getting all het up?

So attack on, if you must, but if any of this has served to make people aware that all posts should enjoy the same credibility here, then it has been a good thing.

[mcw12985 0]

McW - Don't know whom you were jumping on, but you must not have read back quite far enough. No one was "jumping on" Bettina.

On a couple issues or topics, there were some of us who had differing opinions and experiences and were concerned that those would be ignored because Bettina was making herself out to be an "expert authority" on those topics by repeatedly stating her qualifications. If a reader thinks someone is an "expert", why read any further or consider a different source of information? When I said something to Bettina about it, she became very defensive and acted wounded.

No one ever, to my knowledge, has had a problem with anyone speaking their mind here. But we should ALL be able to do it with impunity, not just ones with whom you may agree. Furthermore, if you have information and experiences that don't jibe with someone who is sharing information contrary to yours, why can't you talk about it without everybody getting all het up?

So attack on, if you must, but if any of this has served to make people aware that all posts should enjoy the same credibility here, then it has been a good thing.

BJ,

I don't name names, but as far as who I was "jumping on," those people who feel threatened by my statements usually respond first.

If people feel that Bettina was taking it upon herself to be an "expert authority" and possibly jeopardizing a reader's knowledge, sure, maybe they feel it's in the best interest of the group to address that.

However, learning HOW to address such issues is a great life lesson. I stick up for the underdog. When I see people take on a demeaning, condescending, holier-than-thou attitude, I'll say something. Call it an "attack" if you must; seems to me some people don't like to be confronted about their attitudes.

[spike6 0]

I was banded on the 14th and i thought staying in the hospital a night was great, they have that sweet little button that you push and everything feels better

[GettinThinMan 0]

9/27 GettinThinMan

[mcw12985 0]

Furthermore, perhaps even a better decision would have been to talk to Bettina privately, instead of making her feel like an "idiot," as she put, on the public board.

[GettinThinMan 0]

I have finished my last appointment with my Surgeon today. Surgery date is September 27. I have been so excited about this surgery and now that it is about to happen am nervous and excited at once

[GettinThinMan 0]

I understand about the wanting to eat before the liquid diet. I am starting early on the liquid, but keep thinking about not being able to eat for the rest of my life.

My surgery date is September 27, 2006.

[spike6 0]

I am glad to hear some people didn't have to do the weeks of liquid, i was supposed to do a one week liquid diet but felt like crap so it went one day liquid one day food. Is there anyone else that has had this and is a vegetarian. I am really having problems coming up with as much Protein as needed, esp doing the 2 wk post op liquid diet. (which i have been very good) although i have been experiencing shooting pains from my shoulder into my neck, the doctor said if it gets worse to go to the er. oh and i want one of those cute little count down things!

[GettinThinMan 0]

Spike6,

You can click on one of the count down things to get one, but I believe you have to register for it.

[GettinThinMan 0]

I am trying to create a ticker. I hope this works

[katt 0]

I haven't even been able to sleep in my bed yet. The pain I have had has not been great but when I go to bed it is just enough at port site to irritate the crap out of me so I have been sleeping on the sofa or in my chair. As for all the other garbage, there are no experts. Our surgeons aren't even experts regardless of how many they have done. They are all giving us their best opinions and we all know about opinions. That's why they call medicine "practice". My doc had me on Atkins after the seminar, Clear Liquids for 2 days pre-op, 3 days post-op, liquids on days 4,5,6, & 7. I have no mushy stage. After liquids I can have cottage cheese, tuna, scrambled eggs and the like for 2 weeks and add one food at a time after that. Always remembering "Eat Protein First". But the surgeons are all different. I intend to do what my doc says cause if anything does go wrong, at least he should be fully informed about what I have eaten. Katt

[GettinThinMan 0]

changed my ticker

[BJean 16]

Like I said. If this helps to clear the air on some topics, it's a good thing. That's why it came up in the first place. Not for making anyone feel threatened or embarrassed, but to fix some stuff.

If you mean by what you said, that I'm the culprit, dude, I don't have a problem with that. Jump in with both feet. I did, and I'm glad I did.

Even though YOU don't name names, I totally understand. I tried my darndest to never name names. If I had wanted to do that, I would have addressed her directly, in private. But alas, like you said those who feel "threatened" jump in first. Interesting reference, by the way.

As for the not-so-sweet "Queen" remark - I'm surprised that you noticed. I am indeed Queen. Not of the LTF, but of my realm. Hope you are of yours too.

Nice chattin' with you, Miss Good Humor.

[gonnabethin 10]

Just leave them on- they will come off soon- the put a skin adhesive below them called mastisol to make the last longer!!

Yours have done above and beyond their duty!!

[GettinThinMan 0]

Getting banded on September 27, 2006