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I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO agree with Donna! i was just discussing this with DH. . parading righteousness is next to the same as taking the Lords name in vain. . .

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Ladies, your points were made and accepted. Some might agree, some might disagree. It come to a time when we need to agree to disagree. Like you said, everyone has different spiritual walks in our lives. Her's is different from ours. We need to meet them where they are. What she needs is edification and prayer right now. She is having surgery in 5 days and I don't want to be one to contributes to a restless spirit and pain in a heart. I pray you understand where I'm coming from. Love you all :thumbup:

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Sleeve 4 Me,

I appreciate this thread. I was looking for like-minded individuals to discuss my feelings and emotions about VSG. Thank you so much for posting your honest feelings.

AniO

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I think what starts as a spiritual/emotional problem -of overeating as a way to cope - becomes a physical battle as well as spiritual/emotional because now the stomach is stretched out, you have more hunger hormones surging, and more fatty weight slowing down your metabolism.

Same as with many other, if not all, addictions - it starts for one reason and often continues bc the addiction then alters the "normal" state of the physical body.

To me this surgery is meant to trim up the tummy so we can have the control needed to repair the physical damage done to our bodies so we can last longer/love longer and get things back to a more normal state.

Seems like once a weight issue gets beyond a certain point it becomes more and more difficult to reign in - becomes a disease on a very destructive path. My intention is to live longer, healthier and to be able to care for my family better/longer. Also to help my children gain control of their eating at an earlier age.

God gave me a brain to use, and I truly feel I found a logical solution to a physical problem. I think it is a healthy solution as opposed to fasts and pills or remaining overweight.

Be gentle with yourself - your heart is good. God understands better than most. You are being assertive to protect your health.

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Ladies, your points were made and accepted. Some might agree, some might disagree. It come to a time when we need to agree to disagree. Like you said, everyone has different spiritual walks in our lives. Her's is different from ours. We need to meet them where they are. What she needs is edification and prayer right now. She is having surgery in 5 days and I don't want to be one to contributes to a restless spirit and pain in a heart. I pray you understand where I'm coming from. Love you all :001_tongue:

Amen! This sums it all up!

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I am sooo glad that I found this sub-forum. I too struggled with feelings of guilt over opting for surgery. The Lord has given me peace through a couple of scriptures. The first, and I am paraphrasing both, is that "all wisdom and knowledge comes from the Lord". I believe that God gave the surgeons this knowledge to help us. It is how we use that knowledge to give glory to God. Also, "all things work together for good for them that love the Lord. If we give God praise and glory and use our journey to help others see God, then we are fulfilling his purpose for our lives. Sorry this post is so long, but I agonized over the spiritual aspects of this surgery before I was given this assurance. Thank God, my surgeon is a wonderful Christian man. That gives me peace.

Best wishes to you.

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We shouldn't feel guilty, obesity is a disease, we tried for years to get better but we couldn't so we decided to have this surgery. God wouldn't disagree with a diabetic having insulin injections, would he? Or an operation to remove a tumour. I genuinely believe that most of us here made this decision of having surgery not lightly and having tried a thousand other ways of losing weight and not succeeding. I too still feel guilty sometimes, but I know I made the right choice for me and my family. I won't deny that vanity came into the equation too.Whenever anybody I love is having an operation I pray to God to bless and illuminate the surgeon, and make him/her make the right decisions during the operation. In my books God is a God of love, compassion and understanding and I thank him for helping me take this big step in my life!

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I also thank you for bring this subject up. I do believe God has a special place for people like us. Sometimes we go throw life careing, parenting and giveing support to others , that we tend to forget or not realize what is going on with our bodys....I sit and ask myself where did all this come from, I mean when I really looked at my body mass.I cried for hours and came to a point where I almost went the other way, as to "oh what the heck, I'm here already so what?"But my heart and mind told me that I am better than that...So one of the nurses in my doc. office had the Gastric Bypass, and she said to me Quote" this is not for you". Than when I looked at myself and ask ms why did I not look at me than, was she tring to tell me something? Anyway, after that day when I meant me, that is when I took control and agreed, its time to do this. You don't know how important these threads means to me "Very Supporting" I thank all and Bless all....we are doing something for us! elite53:biggrin0:

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Praying all is going well! I love the last couple of posts! You guys are a blessing to me. God keeps reminding me that everything is in His timing. I have made a mess of things over the years but God is so good and his grace and mercy is daily. It is time for me to be healthy. I thank Him for guiding me to this point in my life and bringing you in my life :) Your words have blessed me greatly!

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Ignoring top post for my peace of mind, lol. To the real matter at heart...our sisters and my self struggling on this journey and trying to edify one another. mp8btpc,

Praying for you, dear heart. He is the great physician, Jehovah- Rapha, "God our Healer". Praying healing for you body and peace for your mind. He loves us unconditionally, no matter what our decisions are. Here are two of the many scriptures that I hold close to my heart during this journey.

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 2Timothy 1:7

Don't worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. Philippians 4:6

I never got notice of the responses I got after my post here. I am so sorry I did not see them. I thank you all for your words of wisdom and of the prayer of peace and healing. Here it is 8 weeks out, I have been successful thus far and soon after my original post I really did find peace with my sleeve and my decision. I still thank god for my healing and pray to give me strength to continue my healthy eating and my focus on exercise.

Thank you Cleosan

Anio and

Sleeve 4 Me

You will guard him and keep him in perfect and constant peace whose mind is stayed on You, because he commits himself to You, leans on You, and hopes confidently in You.

Isaiah 26: 3

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Beautiful post :)...I am 6 weeks out today, and I'm so thankful to the Lord for this wonderful blessing :). As I posted last night on my profile, I'm going to appreciate every pound lost and have an attitude of gratitude and enjoy the ride :). GOD IS GOOD! And I thank the Lord for all the encouragement from all of you :)...love you all sleeve sisters!

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Girls your are awesome!!! And God is so good! I'm making a new topic where we can write about how we are Trading our Sorrows for Joy!!!!!

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Thank y'all so much! I've struggled SO much over the last 3 years in believing that God would bless any WLS that I thought I needed. I know that struggle wasn't from the Lord, but from Satan. I'm glad to say that it is a struggle no longer. Has food been an addiction for me? Yes. Will I defeat it? YES. I just need some help! I love what Tiffykins said in one of her many helpful posts... (paraphrase by me, since I can't find the post!) Would we criticize a breast cancer patient for having a masectomy? No way! ....So why would I criticize myself for using the wisdom that God has given WLS surgeon's to help me? It's the same thing. My stomach is killing me, just like that lump in a cancer patients breast. I'm not saying that WLS is right for every obese person....but it is right for me. I'm so excited and I'm looking forward to the freedom that God is holding out to me....truly a second chance. Thanks again and God bless us all as we strive to live long, healthy, productive lives for Him!!

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Thank y'all so much! I've struggled SO much over the last 3 years in believing that God would bless any WLS that I thought I needed. I know that struggle wasn't from the Lord, but from Satan. I'm glad to say that it is a struggle no longer. Has food been an addiction for me? Yes. Will I defeat it? YES. I just need some help! I love what Tiffykins said in one of her many helpful posts... (paraphrase by me, since I can't find the post!) Would we criticize a breast cancer patient for having a masectomy? No way! ....So why would I criticize myself for using the wisdom that God has given WLS surgeon's to help me? It's the same thing. My stomach is killing me, just like that lump in a cancer patients breast. I'm not saying that WLS is right for every obese person....but it is right for me. I'm so excited and I'm looking forward to the freedom that God is holding out to me....truly a second chance. Thanks again and God bless us all as we strive to live long, healthy, productive lives for Him!!

AMEN! Beautifully said sleeve sister :)

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I'm SO GLAD I'm not the only one feeling guilty about this surgery! THANK YOU SLEEVE 4 ME for posting. Sitting in church the other day and listening to how we are to respect our bodies because they are our TEMPLE!! I thought OH MY I need to talk to my preacher to make sure I'm doing the right thing. YOU KNOW WHAT....I prayed about it and FINALLY noticed the SIGNS that GOD was already giving me to prepare for this new journey in my life!

I LOVED Beer and NEVER thought I would EVER give it up but guess what....about two weeks ago I drank two and they didn't settle right....tried again in a week....same thing...didn't settle right. Don't want to try ANYMORE BEER!!

People can think what they want but I BELIEVE God did this for me. pizza is my FAVORITE food....Canadian Bacon with pineapple...OH HOW WONDERFUL it was every Friday night. Well guess what...the last time I ate it...it didn't taste good. AGAIN, I BELIEVE God is helping me get prepared. The food and Drink that was SO IMPORTANT to me or so I thought GOD is helping me DEAL with!

Now, some of you may think I'm CRAZY for thinking this but we all believe in what we NEED to believe in. I BELIEVE GOD is behind me 100% all the time!! I'm not perfect and I will make mistakes but I'm trying to LISTEN and SEE the SIGNS he is giving ME!! At first I was SCARED TO DEATH to have this surgery...my husband was againist it my daughter was not happy but GOD helped them too. I can now talk to my Husband about it and he LISTENS.....REALLY LISTENS! My daughter said she prayed about it and now she is at peace with it too! GOD HAS BLESSED ME with finding this website for the SUPPORT that I NEED! I will be SLeeved in December and I CAN'T WAIT!!

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