So, atheists and other "nonbelievers" make up, I believe, five percent of the population. And sleevers are, what, 1% of the population? Less?

So agnostic/atheist sleevers like me are literally one in a million! I KNEW my momma was right when she said I was "special!"

Is there such a thing as a conservative agnostic?? lol

Not really kidding. I agree with a few things from some people mentioned above. I truly feel that there is never really a set black and white answer to politics or religion. I really despise the hypocrisy of organized religion, yet in the same breath I have met some great people of faith. Sound a little different to you guys?? Probably not, but just an observation.

I can't get down with a lot of the lib ideas but some I do. Again, it's not all black and white, there is a whole lot of gray. You can cherry pick all you want from both politics and religion so you have to pick the lesser of two evils.

Is there such a thing as a conservative agnostic?? lol

Not really kidding. I agree with a few things from some people mentioned above. I truly feel that there is never really a set black and white answer to politics or religion. I really despise the hypocrisy of organized religion' date=' yet in the same breath I have met some great people of faith. Sound a little different to you guys?? Probably not, but just an observation.

I can't get down with a lot of the lib ideas but some I do. Again, it's not all black and white, there is a whole lot of gray. You can cherry pick all you want from both politics and religion so you have to pick the lesser of two evils.[/quote']

Some of the best ppl I ever met were Christians.... and some of the worst. You are right about the gray area. There is more gray shade in the world than black. That was why I consider myself agnostic who is liberal with a few conservative ideas. I use to love politics and be very opinionated about my views. Overtime the blinders came off in regards to belief systems. They all out for their own self interests. Realized the limitations of that and adjusted accordingly. By that I mean. My sister is very religious. She voted for Bush ONLY because he is aganist abortion, which she feel so strongly about that it overrode normal Democratic alignment. So far I've never felt so strongly about an issue that it came to that but if the time come I know I'll vote for what I believe in over my loyalty to some party.

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So happy to find this thread! Had to move out of the bible belt to realize what I believed or didn't believe when the people around me stopped telling me what to believe. I'm hoping to be sleeved this winter. I almost hesitated about my surgeon when he spoke to the group about god. But that's Texas for you! So I just laughed and told my religious mother she would love him!

Funny thing now that I'm a recovering southern baptist...when I got married we discussed what would be crossing the line in our relationship to a point of no return. For him it would be me cheating on him. I thought about it and decided if he ever "got region" that would be crossing the line! I haven't cheated and he's still agnostic!

Thanks for starting this thread!

This is my first post. I've been creeping for awhile. But I'm happy to find a forum that acknowledges I'm going to be making this change for myself. It's me, not (insert deity/deities here.)

Some of the best ppl I ever met were Christians.... and some of the worst.

One of my best friends and, quite honestly, one of the finest people I have ever met, is a Jew for Jesus. Classifications don't make you a decent human being, it's up to you.

That being said, being able to sleep in on Sundays has contributed to my being a reasonably decent person.

That being said' date=' being able to sleep in on Sundays has contributed to my being a reasonably decent person.[/quote']

Speaking of sleeping in....whenever we go to visit the inlaws, we always go to my FILs church. I go along without complaint because it makes my wife happy and it's only a couple times a year. But the services are at 11am, it's not over till noon. I feel like half the day is wasted. I'd rather go at 8 and be done and have the rest of the day to enjoy my heathen lifestyle.

Speaking of sleeping in....whenever we go to visit the inlaws' date=' we always go to my FILs church. I go along without complaint because it makes my wife happy and it's only a couple times a year. But the services are at 11am, it's not over till noon. I feel like half the day is wasted. I'd rather go at 8 and be done and have the rest of the day to enjoy my heathen lifestyle.

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We have to do that with my grandparents. I tell my husband (the family Jew) that it is the price of admission.

Speaking of sleeping in....whenever we go to visit the inlaws, we always go to my FILs church. I go along without complaint because it makes my wife happy and it's only a couple times a year. But the services are at 11am, it's not over till noon. I feel like half the day is wasted. I'd rather go at 8 and be done and have the rest of the day to enjoy my heathen lifestyle.

You're funny, Butter...i always enjoy reading your posts.

That being said, being able to sleep in on Sundays has contributed to my being a reasonably decent person.

No doubt, cherrybomb...ditto.

So glad to find this thread. Add one more atheist sleever to the ranks!

Gosh I'd love to say that I don't have a god to worship, but unfortunately during a long hospital stay with my son (we spent about two years worth of nights in hospital between birth and age four) when asked about religion I thought for a second and then replied....We (my son and I) are Sleeptopians. The gal looked at me with that "what the hell are you talking about" look that they get but can't ask questions because it's not PC...and said "Is there anything we can do here to assist you with your prayer?" To which I replied that we Sleeptopians commune with our god through REM sleep. If we do not achieve this deep sleep state daily we stray from the Sleeptopian path and sadly many do not return

Which got us a "do not disturb" sign on the door and let us skip the every four hour nurses rounds After all, they have to do everything they can to assist in your religious path If there actually is a god...I know he was laughing as I said that all straight faced!

My grandfather was a baptist preacher....he could pull crap like that out of his arse like nobody's business. I guess I'm a chip off the old block LMAO

I shall "pray" for ya'll tonight...I took some liquid nyquil which should keep me in touch with the sleeptopian god all night long heh heh

Gosh I'd love to say that I don't have a god to worship' date=' but unfortunately during a long hospital stay with my son (we spent about two years worth of nights in hospital between birth and age four) when asked about religion I thought for a second and then replied....We (my son and I) are Sleeptopians. The gal looked at me with that "what the hell are you talking about" look that they get but can't ask questions because it's not PC...and said "Is there anything we can do here to assist you with your prayer?" To which I replied that we Sleeptopians commune with our god through REM sleep. If we do not achieve this deep sleep state daily we stray from the Sleeptopian path and sadly many do not return

Which got us a "do not disturb" sign on the door and let us skip the every four hour nurses rounds After all, they have to do everything they can to assist in your religious path If there actually is a god...I know he was laughing as I said that all straight faced!

My grandfather was a baptist preacher....he could pull crap like that out of his arse like nobody's business. I guess I'm a chip off the old block LMAO

I shall "pray" for ya'll tonight...I took some liquid nyquil which should keep me in touch with the sleeptopian god all night long heh heh

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Rotflmao yeah that one about killed me Ty

@iggy you are so funny!

Count another liberal atheist here, I tend to identify as a humanist.

@iggy you are so funny!

Count another liberal atheist here' date=' I tend to identify as a humanist.[/quote']

Last time I identified myself as a humanist I was called a Satanist. Oh well, whatever they wanna call me. But for a Satanist I sure do have a big deficit of goat heads and pentagrams in my house....and there's a whole lotta pink...

I am proud to be a Christian, a believer of Jesus Christ! I am not one to cram it down others throats or preach it on every corner but if someone is wanting to know about my God, I will be more than happy to share! I believe everyone needs something to believe in good or bad, I like believing that there's something so much better after this hard life were all living and one day I'll get to experience that!