Students sent home from school for wearing American flag t-shirts on May 5

[ariscus99 1]

I found the post to be insulting. In any case, I've held out the olive branch and am willing to move on to other topics.

So in this spirit of a topic change, what do you think of Obama sending troops to the southern border? Do you think it will help?

I have to agree with McCain, I don't think it's enough.

My stance on what needs to be done in relation to immigration, is a three point strategy, first and foremost complete the fence, and a good fence. Complete it, patrol it. Part two has to do with the illegals here already, and more specifically the people who employ them. I know numerous illegals, and deal with them on a daily basis to know that most really are here only to work and make a better life for themselves and their families. However there is a legal way to go about it. I would impose financially devastating fines on companies that knowingly employ illegals, and also heavy fines against companies that employ illegals knowingly or not, including everyday people who use them as maids or gardeners or anything else. I'm confident that this would deter majority of people from employing illegal aliens. And phase 3, would be immigration reform, make it so it's not quite so hard to become a citizen. Though it shouldn't be a walk in the park, along with this I would implement some sort of change to the way work visa's are issued and tracked. I don't disagree with the new AZ law however, and am all for deportation. The argument against deportation is usually that it breaks up families, well, they can take their families back to wherever they came from with them. That will solve the problem of breaking up families. Thats my thoughts in a nutshell.

Another issue that needs to be dealt with is anchor babies. That in my opinion should just be done away with.

[leroyspuds 0]

I think most people would agree we need more enforcement of the border and a more expeditious approval of work visas. Twelve hundred troops added to the current 20,000 border patrol agents isn't going to do the trick and $500M won't go far. So clearly we need Congress to act quickly pass a comprehensive plan.

The more controversial issue is what to do with the 12 million folks already here illegally. Should we pay the estimated $200 billion needed to deport them all or offer some sort of amnesty program? If deportation is the answer how do you envision this taking place?

Just to play devil's advocate what would the Libertarian take be on government mandates that prevent employers from hiring the work force they need for their businesses? Wouldn't free trade be better served if businesses could hire who they want without burdensome rules, regulations and paperwork?

[ariscus99 1]

I think most people would agree we need more enforcement of the border and a more expeditious approval of work visas. Twelve hundred troops added to the current 20,000 border patrol agents isn't going to do the trick and $500M won't go far. So clearly we need Congress to act quickly pass a comprehensive plan.

The more controversial issue is what to do with the 12 million folks already here illegally. Should we pay the estimated $200 billion needed to deport them all or offer some sort of amnesty program? If deportation is the answer how do you envision this taking place?

Just to play devil's advocate what would the Libertarian take be on government mandates that prevent employers from hiring the work force they need for their businesses? Wouldn't free trade be better served if businesses could hire who they want without burdensome rules, regulations and paperwork?

I'd bite, but unfortunately I don't consider myself a libertarian. While I am for minimal government I do understand the need for some government regulation. Though cleos mom would have you believe I want total anarchy, I and probably most Americans see the need for some government regulation, while still keeping it minimalist in nature.

As for the 12 million illegals here already, I think the sanctions on business, and assuring they receive the absolute minimum support from the government and tax payer money, will lead many of them to leave the country. If this isn't the land of the free handouts many of them will have no desire to be here. Especially if they know they can't work and earn any money.

[pattygreen 5]

Because discrimination based on gender is also a protected class in the civil rights bill.

So if the women of color thread was racist then that makes the men's room and powder room sexist - which is discrimination based on gender.

Like I said.... What do those have to do with racism? One is sexism, the other is racism. I wasn't talking about the civil rights bill.

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Like I said.... What do those have to do with racism? One is sexism, the other is racism. I wasn't talking about the civil rights bill.

the civil rights bill protects against sexism (gender) as well as racism - you should read it.

[kellie2 0]

I agree. I believe it all boils down to the immigration issue. Many are here because they gave birht on American soil. These babies are being raised by parents who did not work to get here. They aren't patriotic. I know may hispanics whos ancestors erned their way here going throught the proper chanels. They are proud Americans and are often very resentful against the sneaky ones.