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Miss California and Gay marriage

Miss California, Carrie Prejean, was runner up for the Miss USA Pageant. She answered a question about gay marriages, and gave her opinion on what she feels about homosexuals being allowed to get married. She said that she feels they should not be married. She was told by her state sponsors that she needed to apologize to the gay community. They also told her to not talk about her beliefs. She refused to do so. Since when, in this country, can't you speak your opinion, without being bashed for it? The homosexual community has no problem telling others how they feel about it. I don't agree with them, but I'm not asking for an apology from anyone who's gay.

I applaud her for standing up for what she felt was the right answer and not backing down on her beliefs when the question was posed. She was representing the majority of the people in California when she gave her answer, after all.

I believe that if you are homosexual and you want to live that life style, it's your life, so go ahead. But I also believe that God instituted the marriage union between a man and a woman together. They say their vows to Him. So, to call the homosexual lifestyle a 'marriage' is a wrong term for it. It's not a marriage. Why can't they call it a civil union, or anything else they like. Like maybe "Partnership" or how about "a love unit". Whatever. The term 'marriage' is already taken. They can still have all the same rights as married couples do. Why aren't they satisfied with that? Do they just like to argue?

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It actually really irritates me. I don't assume every single righty loved Bush or even voted for him. Ok you don't like Obama, we get that but don't you have something more substantial than hitler and messiah, like a specific policy or executive order you did not like? Not just "he is a socialist". I doubt half the people who say that even know what the F it means.

Unlike BJean, I think Prejean was right to state her opinion. If they wanted a politically correct answer, Perez could have phrased the question differently (ie, "Gay marriage is a hot-button issue right now. Do you think not allowing gay marriage is constitutional? Why or why not?").

But to stir the pot a little, let me say this: I caught her "rebuttal speech" from when Trump let her keep the crown, and I think she is a terrible speaker. Total eye candy, but a terrible speaker.

What is with the right and this messiah thing? .

my father in law made that comment once - then i told him he should bow down and pray. not heard it since.

I agree that you can show people respect even if you don't agree with everything they do.

I also have trouble believing that some people aren't just paying lip service because it sounds politically correct, but that they have pretty deep-seated bigotry at their core.

They certainly may. However, all this debacle did was prove that those who DO feel negatively about things will HAVE to be fake or face the consequences. You can't really change how people feel about certain issues. But for those who say that some are fake, well, now you see why.

What is with the right and this messiah thing? I have never thought of Obama as a messiah nor do I agree with everything he has done. No one I know agree's with him 100%.

It actually is really dumb. When they start with the messiah, savior, whatever thing it just shows they can't articulate opinions without put downs.

Many on the left DO see him as akin to the second coming. There were those who were on YouTube the day he got elected saying that Obama was going to pay their mortgage and their car notes. I saw it myself.

Heck, I've even heard people in line at the store talking as if Obama is "gonna do this and that" for them. What's so sad is something about him makes certain people less reliant on themselves and instead believing that he's gonna do something for them. It's sickening.

It actually really irritates me. I don't assume every single righty loved Bush or even voted for him. Ok you don't like Obama, we get that but don't you have something more substantial than hitler and messiah, like a specific policy or executive order you did not like? Not just "he is a socialist". I doubt half the people who say that even know what the F it means.

Trust me, I know. And if anything, he's working past socialism and more towards the fascist side.

But to stir the pot a little, let me say this: I caught her "rebuttal speech" from when Trump let her keep the crown, and I think she is a terrible speaker. Total eye candy, but a terrible speaker.

They certainly aren't being selected for their IQ. :crying:

It's sickening.

actually it's quite sickening for back handed slams for some who are actually intelligent enough to know better, but have faith he can do the job he was HIRED to do.

like the state of CA voting against gay marriage, the US voted prez obama in office.

Unlike BJean, I think Prejean was right to state her opinion. If they wanted a politically correct answer, Perez could have phrased the question differently (ie, "Gay marriage is a hot-button issue right now. Do you think not allowing gay marriage is constitutional? Why or why not?").

But to stir the pot a little, let me say this: I caught her "rebuttal speech" from when Trump let her keep the crown, and I think she is a terrible speaker. Total eye candy, but a terrible speaker.

I think she did okay, she seemed to be very fustrated with all that had transpired. She needs rest, she was tired.

actually it's quite sickening for back handed slams for some who are actually intelligent enough to know better, but have faith he can do the job he was HIRED to do.

Lulu, I'm not talking about those voters. I don't understand those voters, but I'm not talking about every single person who voted for him.

I'm solely talking about those select individuals who voted for him based on everything other than believing he could actually do the job as president, and that includes those who believe they would get something out of it.

Lulu, I'm not talking about those voters. I don't understand those voters, but I'm not talking about every single person who voted for him.

I'm solely talking about those select individuals who voted for him based on everything other than believing he could actually do the job as president, and that includes those who believe they would get something out of it.

oh i get it - just had issue about the mesiah comment dealing w/FIL.

back to topic of ms idiot - YEAH family values chick; work it; - ya think they'll send to her to a speech class here soon??

and NO i'm not knocking her stance one bit - just the fact she's an idiot and her parents should maybe sent her to a school that taugh english / grammer.... oh but she would have had to left the house to do that...

yes - humor is great~!

back to topic of ms idiot - YEAH family values chick; work it; - ya think they'll send to her to a speech class here soon??

I'd be happy to tutor this charming young woman in the nuances of speech. Nothing creepy about that, is there?

I'd be happy to tutor this charming young woman in the nuances of speech. Nothing creepy about that, is there?

How many times have you spoken before an audience? Speaking before people takes a lot of practice, it is not something you acquire overnight or from just one class. Nervousness is the number one killer of speeches, you have to learn to control it, and when you do, you will do pretty good.

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