Miss California, Carrie Prejean, was runner up for the Miss USA Pageant. She answered a question about gay marriages, and gave her opinion on what she feels about homosexuals being allowed to get married. She said that she feels they should not be married. She was told by her state sponsors that she needed to apologize to the gay community. They also told her to not talk about her beliefs. She refused to do so. Since when, in this country, can't you speak your opinion, without being bashed for it? The homosexual community has no problem telling others how they feel about it. I don't agree with them, but I'm not asking for an apology from anyone who's gay.

I applaud her for standing up for what she felt was the right answer and not backing down on her beliefs when the question was posed. She was representing the majority of the people in California when she gave her answer, after all.

I believe that if you are homosexual and you want to live that life style, it's your life, so go ahead. But I also believe that God instituted the marriage union between a man and a woman together. They say their vows to Him. So, to call the homosexual lifestyle a 'marriage' is a wrong term for it. It's not a marriage. Why can't they call it a civil union, or anything else they like. Like maybe "Partnership" or how about "a love unit". Whatever. The term 'marriage' is already taken. They can still have all the same rights as married couples do. Why aren't they satisfied with that? Do they just like to argue?

plain: "Unlike BJean, I think Prejean was right to state her opinion."

I don't really think she was wrong to state her opinion. What I said is that if she wanted the crown, she needed to be politically correct. She should have known the game by now. She should have wanted the crown if she was going to go to all that trouble. She probably knew that a question like that was going to be asked and that it might be asked of her. She either thought about it and decided that stating her opinion was more important than the crown, or she was just plain dumb.

I don't think you all really read my posts. I think you probably scan them and come up with what you think I mean. I can't say as I blame you. I tend to do that with long posts too - either that or I ignore them altogether.

Or were you just trying, once again, to get me to sound off plain? I know how much you enjoy reading my pearls of wisdom. :crying:

trell, I'm not sure that public speaking and beauty pagents go hand in hand.

Public speaking is difficult and an acquired art. Most of the focus in beauty pagents is beauty. Hence the fake hair, boobs, tans, etc. But the one who is crowned is expected to be able to not embarrass herself or her sponsors. Doesn't look like Prejean was up for that.

plain: "Unlike BJean, I think Prejean was right to state her opinion."

I don't really think she was wrong to state her opinion. What I said is that if she wanted the crown, she needed to be politically correct. She should have known the game by now. She should have wanted the crown if she was going to go to all that trouble. She probably knew that a question like that was going to be asked and that it might be asked of her. She either thought about it and decided that stating her opinion was more important than the crown, or she was just plain dumb.

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I think my beliefs are more important than a competition. If she chose to do that, then kudos to her for standing up for what she believes in. Winning is not everything.

If she chose to do that, then kudos to her for standing up for what she believes in. Winning is not everything.

oh the idiot won - nobody even knows who the REAL ms usa is.....she probably had a proper education.

oh i get it - just had issue about the mesiah comment dealing w/FIL.

back to topic of ms idiot - YEAH family values chick; work it; - ya think they'll send to her to a speech class here soon??

and NO i'm not knocking her stance one bit - just the fact she's an idiot and her parents should maybe sent her to a school that taugh english / grammer.... oh but she would have had to left the house to do that...

yes - humor is great~!

Yes, but when one is 21 years old and only being voted on for how pretty they are and how hot they are in a bikini, do you really expect Rhodes Scholars? :crying:

As for the other, sorry, I was trying to distinguish what you were saying, and I thought it was something different.

oh the idiot won - nobody even knows who the REAL ms usa is.....she probably had a proper education.

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Yes, but when one is 21 years old and only being voted on for how pretty they are and how hot they are in a bikini, do you really expect Rhodes Scholars?

oh hell no - but i want her to continue to speak for family values & marriage & all.....cause she's so articulate, :crying:

How many times have you spoken before an audience? Speaking before people takes a lot of practice, it is not something you acquire overnight or from just one class. Nervousness is the number one killer of speeches, you have to learn to control it, and when you do, you will do pretty good.

Add to that the fact that you don't know what you're going to be asked, and that ups the ante.

Did any of these women sound like a Mensa member in their speeches? Or is she the only one under the microscope?

plain: "Unlike BJean, I think Prejean was right to state her opinion."

I don't really think she was wrong to state her opinion. What I said is that if she wanted the crown, she needed to be politically correct. She should have known the game by now. She should have wanted the crown if she was going to go to all that trouble. She probably knew that a question like that was going to be asked and that it might be asked of her. She either thought about it and decided that stating her opinion was more important than the crown, or she was just plain dumb.

Yes, but two things here: I haven't heard her slamming the fact that she didn't win the crown. ALL the focus has been on her answer. I do recall her saying that it was more important to her to stick to her beliefs, and that she did.

As for being PC, why? There are already those here who have slammed others for being PC and stating feelings that are opposed to how they really believe.

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that a statement / fact / or just disgust of what i said - pick one or fill in the blank which you left.

yeah - i'm making fun of ms ca & will continue to do so....

I found the winner's question/answer session, and she doesn't sound any better:

YouTube - MISS USA 2009 BELONGS TO MISS NORTH CAROLINA KRISTEN DALTON

It's at 2:30.

I started public speaking, and doing speeches at a young age, and I will be 40 in a year, and I am still nervous when I first stand up before people. After a minute or so, I get control over the nervousness. She is young, she will grasp it eventually.

oh hell no - but i want her to continue to speak for family values & marriage & all.....cause she's so articulate, :crying:

LOL!

Okay, is she a great speaker? No. However, she was immediately hit with a very hard question by a very out-of-the-closet gay guy. Who would sound like a brainiac? And since then, the only things I've heard her speaking about had to do with the same issue and some emotional speaking about the villianization she was put through.

The winner is Kristen Dalton from NC. Tell me she sounds better. They sound about the same to me.

How many other contestants had their breast implants paid for? Maybe she did it just for the implants and said whatever people told her to say. If she prepped that much on her body I'm sure they prepped on what to say too!:crying:

She can't speak, but we heard her loud and clear when she said marriage is between a man and a woman.

Edited May 14, 200917 yr by LLPlady3