IF the economy is the #1 issue in America why would you vote for McCain? He stated not long ago (Sept 15,2008) that the fundamentals of our economy is good:blink:. Seriously? Then just today or yesterday, he said the problem with the economy is corporate greed and would have a commission (much like the like 9/11 commission) study it. WTF?! So basically he is saying he doesn't want to deal with the economy! AND lets not forget his TOP economic advisor stated just a few months ago in JUNE/JULY of THIS year that there was nothing wrong with our economy and that the American people were a bunch of "whiners". Does this sound like a person who is for the people? It is just infuriating to me that this race has become "tight"! I mean it's pretty bad when Karl Rove says the McCain campaign is lying and running a bad campaign!! UGH I will never understand what people see in McCain!

For all of you living in FEAR, for all of you with negative comments and judgements about others and their beliefs...go ahead and continue to live in fear. It is not going to do any good for this country. Hope has won and will be what we have to look forward to. This is an amazing time in history and a time to celebrate!

The election is over, let's stop the attacks too! There were negative comments both directions. I will celebrate a first black president. I will not celebrate this man's views and time will tell how much 'good' he does for this country.

Just because one's parents are older doesn't mean they are smarter and wiser. If we are referring to an adult parent versus a child, then probably, yes. But, I am 42 years old and my parents are 75 and 76. We do not share the same beliefs. Does that make them right and me wrong, no. Does that make me right and them wrong, no. They were raised in a generation of racism, sexism, etc. There was no tolerance for anything that is different than what they consider "the norm". I love my parents, but there beliefs are outdated.

We have learned much in recent years and my generation has grown so much. My children, at the ages of 15 and 17 are of a much more accepting generation. They, along with their friends, don't understand racism and they don't understand why people are against same-sex relationships. I am proud of them that they are accepting of everyone for who they are and what they are. And, if their beliefs end up being different than mine, I will not chastise them, I will accept them and be proud that they are individuals who can think with their own minds and make their own decisions.

Just because one's parents are older doesn't mean they are smarter and wiser. If we are referring to an adult parent versus a child, then probably, yes. But, I am 42 years old and my parents are 75 and 76. We do not share the same beliefs. Does that make them right and me wrong, no. Does that make me right and them wrong, no. They were raised in a generation of racism, sexism, etc. There was no tolerance for anything that is different than what they consider "the norm". I love my parents, but there beliefs are outdated.

We have learned much in recent years and my generation has grown so much. My children, at the ages of 15 and 17 are of a much more accepting generation. They, along with their friends, don't understand racism and they don't understand why people are against same-sex relationships. I am proud of them that they are accepting of everyone for who they are and what they are. And, if their beliefs end up being different than mine, I will not chastise them, I will accept them and be proud that they are individuals who can think with their own minds and make their own decisions.

Umm, I think she made it clear she was referring to CHRISTIANITY. Did you not read her response??

I wasn't talking about taking your mom's advice on racism. (for I know that alot of the older generation still have issues with it) I was speaking on being more open to your mom's views about christianity.

I am a christian. I just don't believe in the literal translation of the bible. You have some kind of block in your head that can't grasp that someone can be gay, and religious. One does not mean you can't be Christian.

I just can't believe this hatred that is still being thrown out there. You say Obama is black and (edit): it seems to me that people think that any old black person would have been elected whether he is an idiot or not. Not true...black people do not make up the majority of the vote...it is not only the black people that put him in office. Stop being so hateful! Some seem to be freaking out for nothing.

I was so proud of McCain for his speech to the nation about his defeat. It was disturbing to hear the "boo's" coming from the audience. It was good that McCain was trying to quiet them.

When Obama mentioned McCain and thanked him...I heard only applause in the audience. Have a little faith in Obama rather than live in fear. If Obama had white skin and an Irish name like McCain too...I am certain he would have won. Can't be 100% certain, but I honestly feel like he would have won.

How sweet was it to see the Obama family along with the Biden family celebrating victory together?

Edited November 5, 200817 yr by Coffi

It seems to me that Obama's so-called "socialism" embodies the ideals taught by Christ. I would think that all Christians should be very pleased that Obama has won this race. He is a man who has both intelligence and class; he will make a fine President.

Was just listening to the news and one of the reporters mentioned that 60% of the votes for Obama came from white people...

For jodi and readystady go: maybe you should try to be more open to what your moms have to say. They are smarter, (like you said) older, and wiser and have the truth.

Why? Because you say so?...You are not qalified to give me advice on my relationship with my mother, which by the way is wonderful. Even my mother does not expect me to believe everything that she does. And although age does give people more life experience, it does not make them automatically smarter.

Umm, I think she made it clear she was referring to CHRISTIANITY. Did you not read her response??

Why yes, Missy, I did read her response prior to responding.

Thank you though.

I was watching Nat Geo Taboo and discovered that in some cultures there are up to 5 different genders. It was pretty interesting.

Five? Male, Female, Other, Other, and Other?

Just because one's parents are older doesn't mean they are smarter and wiser. If we are referring to an adult parent versus a child, then probably, yes. But, I am 42 years old and my parents are 75 and 76. We do not share the same beliefs. Does that make them right and me wrong, no. Does that make me right and them wrong, no. They were raised in a generation of racism, sexism, etc. There was no tolerance for anything that is different than what they consider "the norm". I love my parents, but there beliefs are outdated.

We have learned much in recent years and my generation has grown so much. My children, at the ages of 15 and 17 are of a much more accepting generation. They, along with their friends, don't understand racism and they don't understand why people are against same-sex relationships. I am proud of them that they are accepting of everyone for who they are and what they are. And, if their beliefs end up being different than mine, I will not chastise them, I will accept them and be proud that they are individuals who can think with their own minds and make their own decisions.

Great post! :biggrin:

different cultures define things differently than we do. It is something that I had seen on nat geo...here is something that I found...there is also a video that I posted a few pages ago...a video if you would rather watch it. it is not something that I made up...

Challenging Gender Norms: 5 Genders Among the Bugis in Indonesia by Zander Keig — Gaia Community

Australian cultural anthropologist Sharyn Graham Davies explores a culture that recognizes five distinct genders in her book "Challenging Gender Norms: Five Genders Among the Bugis in Indonesia" (2007).

These include makkunrai (feminine woman), calabai (feminine man), calalai (masculine female), oroané (masculine man), and bissu (embodying both male and female energies, revered as a shaman).

Wow... but it makes perfect sense.

Did you watch the video too? There was a seg on Taboo on Nat Geo and it was really pretty interesting. In one community...Albania or Bulgaria...can't remember, but I could find it for you. Some times women give up their gender to provide for families and for whatever reason. But by doing so they are forbidden to ever be with a man and are completely accepted by men and women as a man. Not as a woman who has become a man, but literally as a man.

The video wasn't working so I couldn't see it. It's amazing what people will do to cope with differences. I guess it's better to come up with ways to cope than to simply destroy something that is strange and unfamiliar because of fear and ignorance.