Hate bypass

[DesperateEC 57]

On 5/17/2020 at 10:03 PM, jasmineinmymind said:

I have no idea how I've lost 90 pounds because Im hungry all the the time and I have been since day 1. I had them check my pouch and i did that swallow test where I had to eat/drink this semi solid Jello like substance and I watched it slide right down into my intestines. So how am I losing weight? I have no idea but for me it's been VERY slow!!

When was your surgery date? I’m down from 300 to 261 and my surgery date was March 9. You’re right it’s been slower than the sleeve for sure.

[New&Improved 1,780]

You're 2nd surgery will always be slower

[summerset 5,261]

2 hours ago, DesperateEC said:

You’re right it’s been slower than the sleeve for sure.

Revisions lose slower. This doesn't have to do anything with bypass.

Hang in there. Find a sustainable way of eating and living and stick with it once you found it. Don't make a difference between "losing mode" and "maintenance mode". Let things level off instead of overhauling your diet again.

Every diet change and change in your exercise routine is stressful, needs time and vigilance to get used to and carries the risk of not being able to stick with it or (when it comes to maintenance) that you might start gaining again.

[DesperateEC 57]

3 hours ago, summerset said:

Revisions lose slower. This doesn't have to do anything with bypass.

Hang in there. Find a sustainable way of eating and living and stick with it once you found it. Don't make a difference between "losing mode" and "maintenance mode". Let things level off instead of overhauling your diet again.

Every diet change and change in your exercise routine is stressful, needs time and vigilance to get used to and carries the risk of not being able to stick with it or (when it comes to maintenance) that you might start gaining again.

You’re right. Trying to find a balance

[summerset 5,261]

I know it's hard. "Finding balance" is not exactly a strength of mine.

[DesperateEC 57]

6 minutes ago, summerset said:

I know it's hard. "Finding balance" is not exactly a strength of mine.

Mine too clearly 🥴🥴🥴🥴

[Tracyringo 503]

On 5/14/2020 at 4:41 AM, MsMocie said:

There is no real long term research on the sleeve because it is a fairly new procedure, but what I figured so far of what is, the sleeve tends to give a very limited weight loss over limited time (2-5 years) before the patients gains weight. All of this of course depends on the person and individual differences and the persons own effort in loosing and maintaining a weight loss.

Sleeve is restrictive, bypass is restrictive + malabsorbent for those wondering the difference.

I feel no restriction with this bypass nothing, notta. I miss my sleeve and I am so sad I couldn't keep it, crying as a matter of fact, and all this gas, I have **** myself twice today !!! I keep telling myself everything will be okay and its way early. I feel so alone and helpless . I ate a Chobani yogurt today I made myself go slow but ate the whole thing and felt NOTHING had that been my sleeve 5 days post op it would have only been a few bites and I would have been done.

[New&Improved 1,780]

This is your second surgery it will be different if the sleeve didn't work you have to live with the bypass and get used to it as time goes on okay...

I had the bypass and it has been great for me don't feel hungry much and you learn how much your pouch will take to fill.

[summerset 5,261]

1 hour ago, Tracyringo said:

I keep telling myself everything will be okay and its way early.

It is early. I'm always surprised how early patients are discharged sometimes. Routine discharge here is on 5th post-op day but only when all post-op labs, ultrasound and cinematography are fine.

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I ate a Chobani yogurt today I made myself go slow but ate the whole thing and felt NOTHING had that been my sleeve 5 days post op it would have only been a few bites and I would have been done.

Sleeve must be so different. I can't imagine the level of restriction patients must be having. From what I saw when I was at the clinic (for whatever procedure...) the bypass people seemed to have less issues drinking their fluids and felt less crappy after surgery.

How big is a Chobani yoghurt, like how many grams? One yoghurt wasn't a problem for me either. The "being full after three spoonfuls" seems to be one of the many WLS myths that by far not all patients experience. I never did. Back in the days it did kind of scare me as well. Today I'm grateful for the amount of food I can eat (or rather could before revision, at the moment I'm eating more frequently but the meals are smaller). It makes eating life feel more normal.

You're only a few days post-op. You didn't really want to have this surgery (meh, how I can relate to this...) and I feel this contributes to this "feeling awful and frustrated". We didn't go into this with the high expectations of someone who gets the first WLS. No weight to lose, no weight-loss-rewards rolling in, no awesome changes in life how people treat you differently because you've lost weight. We hope for no pain, no complications and we certainly hope that we won't experience any weight gain because of revision. Fear/Anxiety, not hope, is the predominant feeling for many people having revision because of some other reason than "weight loss". Will my weight stay stable? Will my reflux really be gone?

I don't know if the "weight gain thought" is really a rational thought to have but it's nagging in the back of my brain since surgery, messing up my relationship with food (again). It slowly gets better but there is still this in my head: "Is long limb RNY as good as MGB when it comes to maintaining weight?! Will I magically start gaining weight even though I don't eat more than before with the MGB?! Will I be fine in the future with this surgery weight wise?! What if reflux comes back?! What if this was the wrong decision?!"

I totally get your thoughts and feelings and I hope it makes you feel less alone.

[Tracyringo 503]

3 hours ago, Superman84 said:

This is your second surgery it will be different if the sleeve didn't work you have to live with the bypass and get used to it as time goes on okay...

I had the bypass and it has been great for me don't feel hungry much and you learn how much your pouch will take to fill.

Yes but the sleeve did work for me, I was still at my original goal weight.

[New&Improved 1,780]

So why did you have to change

[Tracyringo 503]

3 hours ago, summerset said:

It is early. I'm always surprised how early patients are discharged sometimes. Routine discharge here is on 5th post-op day but only when all post-op labs, ultrasound and cinematography are fine.

Sleeve must be so different. I can't imagine the level of restriction patients must be having. From what I saw when I was at the clinic (for whatever procedure...) the bypass people seemed to have less issues drinking their fluids and felt less crappy after surgery.

How big is a Chobani yoghurt, like how many grams? One yoghurt wasn't a problem for me either. The "being full after three spoonfuls" seems to be one of the many WLS myths that by far not all patients experience. I never did. Back in the days it did kind of scare me as well. Today I'm grateful for the amount of food I can eat (or rather could before revision, at the moment I'm eating more frequently but the meals are smaller). It makes eating life feel more normal.

You're only a few days post-op. You didn't really want to have this surgery (meh, how I can relate to this...) and I feel this contributes to this "feeling awful and frustrated". We didn't go into this with the high expectations of someone who gets the first WLS. No weight to lose, no weight-loss-rewards rolling in, no awesome changes in life how people treat you differently because you've lost weight. We hope for no pain, no complications and we certainly hope that we won't experience any weight gain because of revision. Fear/Anxiety, not hope, is the predominant feeling for many people having revision because of some other reason than "weight loss". Will my weight stay stable? Will my reflux really be gone?

I don't know if the "weight gain thought" is really a rational thought to have but it's nagging in the back of my brain since surgery, messing up my relationship with food (again). It slowly gets better but there is still this in my head: "Is long limb RNY as good as MGB when it comes to maintaining weight?! Will I magically start gaining weight even though I don't eat more than before with the MGB?! Will I be fine in the future with this surgery weight wise?! What if reflux comes back?! What if this was the wrong decision?!"

I totally get your thoughts and feelings and I hope it makes you feel less alone.

Summerset thank you so much !! You hit the nail on the head on so many things. I don not feel as crappy or wore down as I did after the sleeve. I can drink just as I did the day before the revision and I asked the surgeon about that and he said it was okay just a mouthful at a time.

Chobani yogurt is 5 oz and I just ate one for Breakfast different brand with 15 grams of Protein, no problems.

It is very scary because I have no idea of what I am living with now and how this is going to work. I will say I have not gotten sick and thrown up on anything yet, but I didn't with the sleeve either so I am hopeful there, but what is this gas thing and is this something that is forever with the bypass ?

Thank you for making me feel not alone, I really do appreciate it.

[Tracyringo 503]

11 minutes ago, Superman84 said:

So why did you have to change

Erosive esophagitis grade D . I didn't have stuff coming up out of my nose and mouth anymore I was taking Dexilant and it stopped it but I was burning pretty much sometime everyday and taking tums constantly.

[summerset 5,261]

7 minutes ago, Tracyringo said:

but what is this gas thing and is this something that is forever with the bypass ?

It's the gas from the laparoscopy. Wait a few days.

[Tracyringo 503]

2 minutes ago, summerset said:

It's the gas from the laparoscopy. Wait a few days.

Oh good, lol !!