venting so feel free to ignore. don’t get why there is such a bias against weed.

i met with the dietician and social worker today. both asked me about my marijuana usage and alcohol consumption. i said my marijuana use was down (a half lie? it is down but not as much as i said it was) but alcohol was up due to celebrating graduating college on saturday. they were both disappointed that i didn’t completely stop smoking pot, but had no problem with my drinking. they obviously want time to stop both for surgery, but didn’t seem phased about the drinking. in fact the social worker told me to “party it up” this weekend.

granted i’m not phased about the drinking either, i’m really not a big drinker, it is just up because of celebrating my graduation and will calm down after this month. but still?

i’m just venting but i really don’t understand why there is such a negative bias around pot. what’s the harm!! it’s legal here in MA!!! alcohol is worse for you!!!

again just venting so feel free to ignore this

There is evidence that smoking marijuana is harmful to lung tissue so it is understandable that some health care professionals would frown upon such practices from a health perspective whether it is legal or not.

That is as far into the topic as I’m going. If you are a grown adult and it is legal and you are consuming within the bounds of the law then so be it.

There is evidence that smoking marijuana is harmful to lung tissue so it is understandable that some health care professionals would frown upon such practices from a health perspective whether it is legal or not.
That is as far into the topic as I’m going. If you are a grown adult and it is legal and you are consuming within the bounds of the law then so be it.

I understand it from that perspective but isn’t alcohol just as harmful, if not more? I just don’t understand the dirty looks, etc. Like, I’m 22. Im graduating college with a 3.5 GPA and, so what, I smoke weed. Doesn’t make me a bad person

I understand it from that perspective but isn’t alcohol just as harmful, if not more? I just don’t understand the dirty looks, etc. Like, I’m 22. Im graduating college with a 3.5 GPA and, so what, I smoke weed. Doesn’t make me a bad person

It surely does not
But for surgery purposes I would suggest switching to edibles to give your lungs a break and then you can safely tell them you have stopped smoking


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It surely does not
But for surgery purposes I would suggest switching to edibles to give your lungs a break and then you can safely tell them you have stopped smoking


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that was what my plan was! i’ve been vaping lately (not much better but hey) and stopped smoking blunts in february when i had my first appointment

I'm neither pro or con. I don't and won't personally use it. But that's me. Not you.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4789154/

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https://asmbs.org/wp/uploads/2016/09/Telem-et-al_LSG-Pathway_2016_Final.pdf

(From p. 17 of the ASMBS guidelines which helps determine and set standard of care for bariatric patients both pre and post surgery.)

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https://www.liversupport.com/medical-marijuana-alcoholism-and-the-liver/

(From the article "Medical Marijuana, Alcoholism, and Your Liver)

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CBD is metabolized by the cytochrome P450 pathway, as are many other things including alcohol, especially almost any pharmaceutical.

https://www.alternet.org/drugs/cbd-drug-interactions-role-cytochrome-p450

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Note: When you ingest substances that the liver says, "Hey, we have to deal with this bad boy in a hurry, break it down and get it out of here!" it adds stress on our liver and causes it to work it's ass off. We're already stressing the liver by quick weight loss. Quick weight loss can actually make the liver more unhealthy before the weight loss and weight stability can make it better.

So you don't want to add things to your body that:

1. Place more stress on your liver--an organ doing a MAJOR amount of the heavy lifting during weight loss (quick or otherwise).

2. Don't want to contribute to possible relapse into substance use.

3. Perhaps make things more toxic because it enters your blood stream so quickly, since your gut is altered (although no intestinal alterations occur with VSG, you still shorten (dramatically) the time it takes to ingest something to the time it hits the part of the intestine where it's processed by the liver (or into the blood stream where it is still processed by the liver).

There is also new research out that suggests CBD causes liver fibrosis. (Just like alcohol.)

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hahah i agree but my dr tests me for tobacco so i’ll cut it out

hahah i agree but my dr tests me for tobacco so i’ll cut it out

Great choice!


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Honestly I don't get it either. To me alcohol is a lot more harmful. How many families have been torn apart because of marijuana compared to alcohol? I don't think either is good for you and consumption should be limited but I don't get why pot gets the side eye from so many people when getting drunk does not. Plus with pot at least you don't get a hangover the next day! I actually have a couple family members who are on medical marijuana for chronic pain and/or anxiety.

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Honestly I don't get it either. To me alcohol is a lot more harmful. How many families have been torn apart because of marijuana compared to alcohol? I don't think either is good for you and consumption should be limited but I don't get why pot gets the side eye from so many people when getting drunk does not. Plus with pot at least you don't get a hangover the next day! I actually have a couple family members who are on medical marijuana for chronic pain and/or anxiety.

exactly! like of course i understand it shouldn’t be over indulged, but the side eye and dirty looks it gets are what pisses me off. i think i just get especially emotional because my dad had cancer when i was younger and medicinal marijuana was the one thing that helped him live a normal life when he was going through chemo. i don’t get how something that powerful and helpful can get such dirty looks and such a bad rep from healthcare professionals

Munchies maybe. I wouldn't smoke pot if you're trying to lose weight. I used to smoke and had an endless pit in my stomach. I ate everything when I smoked.

On 5/8/2018 at 10:15 AM, saygrace said:

venting so feel free to ignore. don’t get why there is such a bias against weed.

i met with the dietician and social worker today. both asked me about my marijuana usage and alcohol consumption. i said my marijuana use was down (a half lie? it is down but not as much as i said it was) but alcohol was up due to celebrating graduating college on saturday. they were both disappointed that i didn’t completely stop smoking pot, but had no problem with my drinking. they obviously want time to stop both for surgery, but didn’t seem phased about the drinking. in fact the social worker told me to “party it up” this weekend.

granted i’m not phased about the drinking either, i’m really not a big drinker, it is just up because of celebrating my graduation and will calm down after this month. but still?

i’m just venting but i really don’t understand why there is such a negative bias around pot. what’s the harm!! it’s legal here in MA!!! alcohol is worse for you!!!

again just venting so feel free to ignore this

Social worker? is that a pre surgery thing? Is this a part of your medical team?

Social worker? is that a pre surgery thing? Is this a part of your medical team?

yes it’s my psych lady. not sure why but her actual title is social worker not psychologist

Pre-surgery I never smoked and definitely stopped drinking... but post surgery, once I was where I needed to be I added in a glass of red wine here and there, but it definitely hit me a lot harder post surgery.. so it is very seldom that I do that. I was just shy of 2 years post op last December when my anxiety began to get so much worse and I was having panic attacks, I usually combat that by trail running...but even that wasn't helping. SO, I began exploring making my own cannabutter and from there used that and made healthy edibles (which I still make and use). I do smoke once in a while, but it is all for medicinal purposes.

I definitely understand quitting all of that pre-surgery as it can help lead to ulcers and other post-op issues that nobody wants to deal with. I think everyone handles their anxiety, depression, and other stuff in their own ways. My goal is to not add to my plethora of vitamins and supplements I take daily, so it was important to explore more holistic options for handling my rising anxiety. I found a dosage that works for me and I have felt so much better in the past 6 months.

I am working towards my MPH to be a registered dietician in my state so I can help bariatric patients long term, the lack of long term support and education kinda drives me nuts. So I am looking forward to working with the local weight loss clinics in my small forest town to set up a positive environment for patients to ask questions and get any help they may need,