I know this was mentioned before here in the Vegans/Vegetarians forums and I wanted to maybe start this thread for all things pertaining to the book that Dr. Garth Davis authored, Proteinaholic. So far I'm on chapter 6 of it and I'm just amazed with how sound it is and all the studies that are out there to support why we don't need such a high amount of protein, and why it's a culprit of obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, etc.... There's just so much to talk about if anyone wants to get into discussion. Now, this thread IS NOT going to be for debate. I do not want anyone coming on here advocating high protein and what they "know" and debating with any of us who are or evolving into plant based, vegans or vegetarians. I want to share the things I've learned from the book and if anyone wants to challenge those, READ THE BOOK FIRST, and then you can come and talk about it. If you don't or haven't read the book, feel free to read the things that will be posted...and do your own homework to find these facts/truths out for yourself. I literally don't have time to do a protein ping pong match...so don't start one. You will be ignored.

Okay, with that said and out of the way, the first thing I want to mention is that Dr. Davis actually dispels the myths about protein and why our bodies don't need so much. It is not an opinionated book, it's a science/fact book. It makes TOTAL sense. He is quite comical too. The parts where he plays out his doctor/patient dialogues hit me the most...because I can relate to how I was educated about protein being what we all need. I had the same mentalities as he did regarding it, but after I started watching documentaries on plant based diets for the past couple of years, I've slowly become open to all the health benefits of eating plant based. But now, even though I knew plant based is great for the health, I didn't know that the protein component was/is what was causing so many problems in my health, my husband's, etc. Now, I've got science and truth to understand the premise of protein. The history of why, what Dr Davis talks about, we western society pick apart whole foods and live based off of macronutrients. Now, it just boggles me why we do that. The other thing that rings true and is nice knowing, is that he is a bariatric surgeon too. He knows what he's coaching/telling his patients. He knows that he was not a nutritionist, didn't know a single thing, but the one hour of nutrition studies in his school days, but he took the time to dive into history, studies, reports, etc to bring light to why western society is so unhealthy, and most of it is based on animal protein.

Wow.

Read the book!

Thanks y'all. It was fun and delicious! Except my parents, the Proteinaholics, came. It was after all their son's bday...and I had to hear the smirky remarks like "where's the beef?" Smh. That's just disrespectful and in my own house! Well, I need to let go, forgive, and move on though. My husband and I know what we're doing and that's that. Only the ignorance (uneducated) will start a fight or say stupid things.

3 minutes ago, Newme17 said:

It was after all their son's bday...and I had to hear the smirky remarks like "where's the beef?"

That is too bad. I understand that the WFPB way of eating is not something everyone wants to do, but they should just support your decision and at the very least keep their opinions to themselves.

Sometimes we just have to exercise our patience muscles.

Just now, Apple1 said:

Sometimes we just have to exercise our patience muscles.

Mine are running short, but I've got to tap in the grace that the Lord has for me to use on others. lol

1 minute ago, Newme17 said:

Mine are running short, but I've got to tap in the grace that the Lord has for me to use on others. lol

I can relate!!

Some people definitely require more grace. Thank God for the extra measure that is given to us just for times such as these.

I bet the food was enjoyed by everyone!!

On 11/08/2017 at 0:41 AM, Apple1 said:

Based on my reading he said I believe 47g for women and 60 for men but I would have to look that up. He also provides a formula to use.

Makes sense. I used both my ideal weight and goal weight times 2/3 and then 4/5 and kept coming up with figures in the range 49g to 62g ... so your 60g for men seems about on par!

Thanks.

On 04/09/2017 at 1:54 PM, Newme17 said:

Now that I've learned to make different lentil dishes, I too, am enjoying them.

Yes, lentil meals are not normal in Australia but I started adding lentils to soups and stockpots years ago. They are great value as good filler and very good nutrition.

My wife and her mother have a few dishes that are centred on lentils.

I must aim to incorporate more post-surgery.

12 hours ago, Rainbow_Warrior said:

Yes, lentil meals are not normal in Australia but I started adding lentils to Soups and stockpots years ago. They are great value as good filler and very good nutrition.

My wife and her mother have a few dishes that are centred on lentils.

I must aim to incorporate more post-surgery.

There are so many variations of recipes to use with them. That's why I enjoy it more. If it were just one recipe that I did and didn't adventure off to try anything new, I'd probably grow sick of them.

i guess you can say that with any food, but since I went wfpb, I've been more adventurous. ?

Edited September 11, 20178 yr by Newme17

Today a coworker was telling me how tired he is due to stress. He's got high blood pressure, etc. I said, "hey, if you change your diet, you could help yourself a lot!" He says, "Tell me what I have to do and I'll do it." (Rubbing my hands together...yay!!) I told him to either eliminate or reduce his consumption of meats and eat salads for lunches and dinners (he doesn't have time to cook--always picking up something) and always have some fruits and veggies to snack on throughout the day. I also sent him a few videos from nutritionfacts.org regarding blood pressure and diet.

I hope he does it and sticks to it. I talk with him most days, so I'll be following up. I want to hear how much better he feels.

16 hours ago, Newme17 said:

Today a coworker was telling me how tired he is due to stress. He's got high blood pressure, etc. I said, "hey, if you change your diet, you could help yourself a lot!" He says, "Tell me what I have to do and I'll do it." (Rubbing my hands together...yay!!) I told him to either eliminate or reduce his consumption of meats and eat salads for lunches and dinners (he doesn't have time to cook--always picking up something) and always have some fruits and veggies to snack on throughout the day. I also sent him a few videos from nutritionfacts.org regarding blood pressure and diet.

I hope he does it and sticks to it. I talk with him most days, so I'll be following up. I want to hear how much better he feels.

Yesss, I love to see people passing it on!

This will be dinner tonight. Thai Green Curry with sweet potatoes, green beans, carrots, and tofu. We will have it over brown basmati rice.

14 minutes ago, Apple1 said:

Thai Green Curry with sweet potatoes, green Beans, carrots, and tofu. We will have it over brown basmati rice.

Looks delightful and delicious.

Enjoy.

17 hours ago, Apple1 said:

This will be dinner tonight. Thai Green Curry with sweet potatoes, green Beans, carrots, and tofu. We will have it over brown basmati rice.

Man, you've really taken off with the tofu! I still haven't made any...and as I don't feel well, haven't made any dinner this week really. Except a kale salad with cranberries, feta, red onions, with some dressing and a few cheese tortellinis. It was delicious. If I can just get over this achy feeling, I'll be up to doing something new and hopefully the tofu! I need to find that parmesan one you did...

Was reading a Pound of Cure this morning. I've had it way before the Proteinaholic came around in my life. Funny how I can finish a larger book, but this one seems to be taking a very long time!

55 minutes ago, Newme17 said:

Man, you've really taken off with the tofu! I still haven't made any...and as I don't feel well, haven't made any dinner this week really. Except a kale salad with cranberries, feta, red onions, with some dressing and a few cheese tortellinis. It was delicious. If I can just get over this achy feeling, I'll be up to doing something new and hopefully the tofu! I need to find that parmesan one you did...

lol I discovered I really like tofu now that I know how to prepare it correctly.

The cheese tortellini sounds yummy ?

Now that cooler weather is here it is casserole and soup time. Looking forward to trying some new recipes.

So I watched the movie OKJA on Netflix. Of course I cried over a fictitious character, but the story was pretty moving. Not only did it move me but it just confirmed my lifestyle. I changed to WFPB for the health benefits, but I am not unaware of the cruelty and processes of how animals are treated for human consumption. The movie just reminded me of such things and I'm WAY MORE AWARE when I'm at the grocery store, driving by meat markets, etc. it's just a sad process.