You put in the time.

You put in the money.

You go to all the appointments and you jump through all the hoops.

You do the pre-op diet.

You have the surgery.

You cared enough about yourself to make the commitment to WLS and you physically and permanently alter your body...


And then you get mad because someone tells you not to eat the d@mn taco? Not to drink alcohol or soda 2.783 days after surgery? To put down the freaking pizza'? To stop eating bread/rice/pasta/bananas/hoagies/20oz steaks TEMPORARILY while your body heals and you get to your goal weight? To actually stick to YOUR doctor's plan?

Even better, you get mad when they only do so AFTER you ASKED????

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE?

Yes. I'd guess most of us have head hunger and cravings. I'd guess most of us had a nibble or sip of something off plan. I've no doubt that most of us were not 100% compliant 100% of the time. But I'd also guess that those of us who have done this, gotten to goal weight and stayed there have been compliant the majority of the time. I'd also guess that many of us who have been successful would appreciate a swift kick in the rear if/when we ask a question I bet we already know the answer to.

It's not rocket science and this isn't Romper Room. Make good choices, stick to your doctor's orders or don't, but don't get mad if you fail to get the results you want when you refuse to do what you are supposed to do. And don't get mad when someone tells you that what you are putting in your mouth isn't the best idea in the world even though you want it right now.

Value yourself more than that. Seriously.

​ If you were teaching a class and gave a test, would every student get 100%? People have different levels of intelligence and dedication. Some will be weight loss surgery superstars, some will be total failures, and most will be a degree of average.

​ If you were teaching a class and gave a test, would every student get 100%? People have different levels of intelligence and dedication. Some will be weight loss surgery superstars, some will be total failures, and most will be a degree of average.

True, but when I was teaching, I didn't want the average grade to be below a C, and I didn't want a large majority of the class to fail. If that happened, then I didn't do my job very well.

I don't think the issue is about people asking questions to gain knowledge. The issue is that they are asking ridiculous questions that anyone that was going to pursue this type of procedure and commit to the lifelong changes they have to make wouldn't be asking.

To re-link this to the grades metaphor, if the people who have recently asked about eating pizza, tacos, ice cream, pork chops, Pasta, rice, candy, etc. a mere days after surgery or the people who have asked about getting hammered during their pre-op diet or right after surgery were the students, then they more than failed this test and their surgeon and his/her staff should re-teach the unit or consider leaving the classroom.

When I was teaching, I circled wrong test answers in RED (gasp) and offered help finding the solutions. I didn't grade on a curve nor did I tell them their math work was "good enough this time". I also did not tell them that they could ignore all the formulas and just pray their answer would turn out ok, and yes, I absolutely made them show their work.

Why?

Because not only did I want them to pass MY math class, but I wanted them to have an awesome, STRONG foundation on which to base all their math classes to follow.

Weird, right?

We could go on with this metaphor for days. This board could be (and should be) like intervention when initial instruction didn't take (or students weren't ready for that instruction). It shouldn't be the initial instruction itself, and it shouldn't enable people to keep making the same mistakes or having the same misconceptions over and over again. Sigh.

Very cool you were a math teacher. I started my career in the high school math classroom. :-)

Edited October 14, 20169 yr by blizair09

@@LipstickLady

just saw this similar thread from august 2014

thought i'd repost

is that ok?

or are you going to kick me to the curb

http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/315715-why-are-some-weight-loss-surgery-patients-so-clueless/page-15

Really the only time I give a rats patootie anymore about what someone is eating post op is when they are early out and can actually injure themselves. Yeah, I'm going to say something whether they like it or not just to try to make them understand that bodily injury can occur before they're fully healed.

Otherwise, have at it. Eat whatever you want if it works for you. And if it doesn't, then who am I to tell someone they weren't ready for the surgery? I'm sure they themselves already know.

Me? I was ready. And I'm totally willing to throw a little advice someone's way if they show they are, too. Usually the ones who can take a little constructive criticism, are thirsty for knowledge, don't think they already know it all (because who does?), and open to different advice without getting completely defensive are the ones who are ready for the changes that need to happen with the surgery. They don't want validation, just information.

Is a rat's patootie allowed starting the soft protein phase?

Is a rat's patootie allowed starting the soft Protein phase?

Like : "give a rat's ass" ?

Or, a Cutie patootie ??? I'd rather the Cutie one

@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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Can't answer for the poster you referenced, but docs aren't going to take you off antidepressants for surgery. Celebrex is an anti inflammatory drug and can impact the lining of the stomach....

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@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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Yes, celebrex is an NSAID. It's the only med I stopped.

Right on well said. AMEN

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Thanks!

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Thank!

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Figured it out gl some of u people act worse then my kids this is why I don't do Facebook and now I'm leaving this site too much drama

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Let's see.......Go visit a prison.......find criminals there...

Visit the "Rants and Raves" section......find drama

Go to a Monks retreat on top of a mountain.........find no one talking.....

Hey, I know where you can go....

I appreciate the advice in this forum. I start my pre-op this Sunday. I promised myself that I would only eat a little stuffing. I don't want my surgery to get cancelled. I'm ready to make this change. I have all of you to help me through this journey. I don't deal with the negativity. Scroll pass. I don't deal with the negativity from the few people that I have told including my birth mother. This is a decision I made to get me to healthy.

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