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Are stalls real or do we just make excuses ?

This is an interesting topic is there really such thing as a stall or are we just making excuses. The law of physics does not lie you consume less calories then needed you lose weight. What do you think ?

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One of my closest friends is a physicist. A PhD-holding, Oxford fellowship-winning physicist. When he has questions about health, do you think he consults other physicists? Or just knows the answer? Or do you think he asks someone who has knowledge of and research in health and medical topics? (HINT: It's the latter.)

Physics is not biology is not physics. Using the "BUT PHYSICS SAYS..." argument doesn't change the fact that living organisms are infinitely more complicated than a simple "If x, then y..." explanation. (Or that you probably are NOT a physicist and therefore probably don't have a very indepth understanding of physics in the first place, no offense.)

Are stalls real? Sometimes. That's how human beings lose weight. In fits and starts, some falls off and then we hold onto some, and then we lose some again, and we lose inches while not losing pounds, and we lose weight when we feel like we should have gained.

Are we fooling ourselves? Sometimes. We get lax about tracking, we conveniently overlook the fact that we had a couple handfuls of nuts or a few tastes here and there or didn't work out for a few days because it was pouring out.

But grade-school physics doesn't really come into play.

I believe stalls are real. I am about 5 weeks post op and haven't lost anything in almost 2 weeks. I work out 6 days a week: zumba, body pump, aquacize, and jogging. I am also active on weekends. I eat 400 to 500 calories a day mostly Protein (fish, shrimp, protein shakes). I burn more calories a day than I eat. It's just crazy.

I believe stalls are real. I am about 5 weeks post op and haven't lost anything in almost 2 weeks. I work out 6 days a week: zumba, body pump, aquacize, and jogging. I am also active on weekends. I eat 400 to 500 calories a day mostly Protein (fish, shrimp, protein shakes). I burn more calories a day than I eat. It's just crazy.

At this point, my NUT told me to increase to at least 800-1000 a day.. once I did, I started losing again.

I am 18 months out and have been at my target for about 8 months with over 115lbs lost since surgery and 150 since my highest weight. With that said, Yes, stalls are real but the body will catch up. I had a couple weeks here and there where I lost nothing and even a time where I gained a few pounds. But after a week poof, 5+ lbs disappear. And in the end I got to my goal.

Just be honest with yourself, and make sure the stall wasnt your own doing. If it was, get back on track and move on.

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I am 18 months out and have been at my target for about 8 months with over 115lbs lost since surgery and 150 since my highest weight. With that said, Yes, stalls are real but the body will catch up. I had a couple weeks here and there where I lost nothing and even a time where I gained a few pounds. But after a week poof, 5+ lbs disappear. And in the end I got to my goal.

Just be honest with yourself, and make sure the stall wasnt your own doing. If it was, get back on track and move on.

That's a great point.. I had weeks I've lost nothing, but my pants are much looser..

Physics also says I can't lift a car, but there are reports of people lifting cars off people. Our bodies don't always make sense.

I had a stall for 2.5 weeks at the beginning. I didn't do anything different and I was following all the rules. One day I started dropping weight again (still no changes) and suddenly I was down 10lbs in a week.

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Physics also says I can't lift a car, but there are reports of people lifting cars off people. Our bodies don't always make sense.

I had a stall for 2.5 weeks at the beginning. I didn't do anything different and I was following all the rules. One day I started dropping weight again (still no changes) and suddenly I was down 10lbs in a week.

Seems like salt retention when your body released its excess water you dropped lots.

I think the 3 week stall is real and there is a scientific explanation for it out there somewhere. I was doing everything right and didn't lose for 3 weeks. However, any other stall or plateau (pre or post op) have been related to my actions. If I do things right, I lose weight. And I can only speak for myself here.

Physics also says I can't lift a car, but there are reports of people lifting cars off people. Our bodies don't always make sense.

I had a stall for 2.5 weeks at the beginning. I didn't do anything different and I was following all the rules. One day I started dropping weight again (still no changes) and suddenly I was down 10lbs in a week.

Seems like salt retention when your body released its excess Water you dropped lots.

No changes and it was salt retention? No, that doesn't make sense at all.

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I should have said water retention. To lose 10 lbs in a week you need to burn 35000 calories.

It's frustrating. I work so hard at this and stay with my exercise program and eat clean. I do think I have found a pattern, though. It seems like on days after strength training days, the scales go up. Then on off days it goes down. I did a strength training day yesterday and weighed two punds heavier this morning. I had 1200 calories, not 8,200. Do ya'll think that the muscles hold Water to repair? My plan advises to weigh everyday, so I do, but it is definitely a crazy-maker trying to get some sense out of it all.

The 3 week stall is real. As it has already been stated on this thread, weight loss is not an exact science and does not always follow the laws of physics. *drops Mic*

I have lapband, so this may not apply to any other types of WLS that provide malabsorption (RNY, etc), but this is my experience.

A couple years back I did 6 months where I tracked everything...with a food scale for intake, and with a Heart rate monitor for exercise calories. Just wanted to do a little self experiment and prove to myself what I had always heard. Calculated my BMR into the equation and crunched all the numbers. While it was tedious and something I would never want to HAVE to do long term, it proved a couple things to me.

1. 3500 calories was exactly one pound for me, over the 6 months.

2. Eating more calories to lose weight NEVER, EVER, EVER works, for me.

3. When I track everything....the numbers don't lie.

There were days or even a week or two here and there, where the calorie deficit didn't exactly match the scale. But over the long term, it all adds up.

.... I was down to eating no more then 500 calories daily......I was putting on weight every time I went back. including insulin resistant, 1 side thyroid dead from being destroyed the other side enlarged and put on thyroid med for 3 months prior to her sending me to WLS that I was prime candidate for this surgery. .......just wanted to share my experience I have lived on the medical issues of weight hanging on for dear life and increasing despite changing lifestyle diet I did 2 yrs ago ......

This is very interesting to me!

Even though you were eating no more than 500 calories per day, you were putting ON weight.

Then your endocrinologist sent you for WLS after getting your thyroid condition under control?

My question is, do you think your weight gain was JUST thyroid related? If so, why WLS considering you were managing calories to less than 500 per day?

If not, do you think the WLS has helped despite the thyroid issue?

Thanks! And continued success :)

I have been to see her twice since the surgery we havnt adjusted my armour thyroid at all still on low dose, I am on target for weight loss from the surgery, my bw on my thyroid panel is at optimal levels not just within range, I deal with hashis, lupus,fibro, I live a clean diet have for 3 yrs no junk is bought the only difference or change iv done is we are eating full fat diet..and no fat free. The first month of surgery yrs I was on ff...after that I included fat in diet ..the surgery was and is a tremendous tool for me and I am very limited on activity..I don't do what you would consider the gym life..I'm alot more active but I manage ..so far so good. Also the role insulin resistance plays, I could not reverse this on the clean diet alone bw showed this along with scale not going down..as soon as I did this sleeve it reversed. Combination for me...I still watch what I eat..????

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