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I understand that the moderators are not obligated to close a thread simply due to a request. I understand that "offensive" is in the eye of the beholder.

But, people. If we cannot draw a line, without regard to religion at all, at pedophilia, I submit there are no lines left, and we are sitting smack dab in the middle of anarchy.

I am not only concerned about my child seeing this...the "protecting children" I was referring to was ALL the children being molested, abused, manipulated or "loved" as the case may be.

Still maintaining there is a big difference between censorship and criminal behavior against children...and for that reason, this topic, even though its anti-Christian slant is provocative and even entertaining to some, should be removed.

If we cannot draw a line, without regard to religion at all, at pedophilia, I submit there are no lines left, and we are sitting smack dab in the middle of anarchy.

No one is supporting the activities mentioned on the linked site, though. It seems you are objecting to the mere mention of reprehensible activities. What line is it that you want drawn?

Marjon, would you object to a little judicious editing of the title of this thread? Usually, adult content warrants a label, and I guess there's some grounds for objection on that score.

I am not only concerned about my child seeing this...the "protecting children" I was referring to was ALL the children being molested, abused, manipulated or "loved" as the case may be.

This thread being deleted won't help them.

Still maintaining there is a big difference between censorship and criminal behavior against children...and for that reason, this topic, even though its anti-Christian slant is provocative and even entertaining to some, should be removed.

It has an anti-Christian slant because the website that the thread is talking about is for Christian pedophiles. Of course there is going to be discussion about the hypocrisy of it.

But, people. If we cannot draw a line, without regard to religion at all, at pedophilia, I submit there are no lines left, and we are sitting smack dab in the middle of anarchy.

It would be different if the thread was promoting the practice. It isn't, though. If this thread is removed, what happens the next time someone wants to discuss drug use, or something else illegal, even if no one on the thread is promoting it or supporting it?

Fine. I tried.

I would like the link removed, if anyone cares about propriety at all.

Is there a "pro" and "con" discussion to be had on pedophilia?

If there is, you may have at it.

Is there a "pro" and "con" discussion to be had on pedophilia?<br /> If there is, you may have at it.

Excuse me? You're going a little far, don't you think, implying that any of us are pro-pedophilia? Talk about petty and argumentative!

I understand that the moderators are not obligated to close a thread simply due to a request. I understand that "offensive" is in the eye of the beholder.

But, people. If we cannot draw a line, without regard to religion at all, at pedophilia, I submit there are no lines left, and we are sitting smack dab in the middle of anarchy.

I am not only concerned about my child seeing this...the "protecting children" I was referring to was ALL the children being molested, abused, manipulated or "loved" as the case may be.

Still maintaining there is a big difference between censorship and criminal behavior against children...and for that reason, this topic, even though its anti-Christian slant is provocative and even entertaining to some, should be removed.

You are making the argument here that pedophilia is so heinous that we are somehow encouraging it or endangering children by simply mentioning it. I don't understand that argument. All of us are in favor of "drawing the line" against pedophilia, and all of us care about "all the children being molested, abused, manipulated or 'loved.'" But why is talking about it "crossing the line" or endangering "all the children." Can you explain that? I'd really like to know.

If anything, silence is more likely to endanger children. If all those Bishops had been willing to talk about what pedophile priests were doing, untold hundreds of children could have avoided being victims.

It seems to me that you want to remove the thread because you don't like the topic and it makes you uncomfortable. That's fair enough, but it is not a good enough reason to justify censorship. There is simply no rationale argument to support the proposition that censoring this thread will somehow protect children.

And if there is such an argument, will you please explain it?

Fine. I tried.

I would like the link removed, if anyone cares about propriety at all.

Is there a "pro" and "con" discussion to be had on pedophilia?

If there is, you may have at it.

Can you point to anyone who has even hinted at being pro pedophilia?

Mouse, it is my opinion that you should chill out concerning this thread. Certainly no one on this site is advocating paedophilia, are they? Some of us may detest Bush, and some of may be liberals, and some of us may even be be atheists but no one here is advocating pederasty.

I will also tell you that I took a little extra time today while a friend was visiting my house to drift around this admittedly extraordinarily bizarre and deeply distasteful site. I discovered this site is not overtly pornographic and does purportedly set itself up to assist Christian men to fight those urges which are of a sexual and paedaphilic nature.

Probably, Christians are upset about the fact that the Website exposes just a little more of the vast hypocrisy of many (NOT ALL! NOT ALL!) Christians.

Christian pedophiles, Christian crystal meth users, Christian abortion clinic bombers, Christian Gay prostitute seekers, Christian thieves, Christian swindlers... the list goes on.

Surely when things like this are exposed it further undermines the already shaky outlook alot of people have on the right-wing Christian movement. And when the movement is made to look bad, it threatens their ability to "convert" aka brainwash, more people. That translates to less money for their churches, fewer children joining, etc. In other words... it's bad for business.

Fine. I tried.

I would like the link removed, if anyone cares about propriety at all.

Is there a "pro" and "con" discussion to be had on pedophilia?

If there is, you may have at it.

What's your damage?? This thread has NOTHING to do with pedophilia at all! It has to do with hyprocrisy. And to echo myself and many others, if you don't want to read it, DON'T!!

What's your damage?? This thread has NOTHING to do with pedophilia at all! It has to do with hyprocrisy. And to echo myself and many others, if you don't want to read it, DON'T!!

Right on, MsDad!:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

That site is very disturbing. I have a problem with ANY grown person having crushes on children regardless what their sexual preference is. :cry

Yah, it is a disturbing site. I believe that everyone is in agreement with you.

Okay, I had to go check out the site to see what all the hoopla was about. Nosey me I guess.

In any case, I started to read some of the prayers and stuff. It seems to me to be a site dedicated to change and rehabilitation through christianity. Most of the prayers on there are asking for help in fixing their disturbing thoughts and feelings. Most are supportive about changing their actions and they are recognizing a concern and problem. I don't think that the site is for advocating abuse of young children. It is just an outlet for people to go who recognize their issues and want to have a safe outlet to vent and reach out to others????

So as disturbing as the site may be to some of you and your feelings about the subject, I would think that you would want to support them changing and making an effort to NOT be a pedophile. There isn't much public support of rehabilitating pedophiles or predators at all. I don't agree with how they feel or what they may or may not have done yet, but I do agree with people having an outlet and recognizing a need for change.