Many of you on here know me well, I have been a part of these message boards for years. I love our members and I want only the best for them. Therefore, I can not in good conscience keep this to myself any longer.

Dr. Illan is a wonderful surgeon. In fact, when I used to coordinate, for a while I actually referred patients to him. His coordinator, Omar, has a very, very faithful following. So much so, I fully expect and am prepared for the "verbal beating" I am going to get for going public with what I know. But, if I prevent just one woman from experiencing what I am about to share with you, then it will all be worth it.

As I said, Omar is very well loved among the patients, especially the ladies. He goes out of his way to ensure everyone has a great experience while there. He provides for the patient's every need, transports them around town, runs errands for them, sits by their bedside and so much more. He is very charming and charismatic. There will be many, many members who will respond to this thread stating just that. In fact, when the first patient, one that I had referred to them, approached me about what happened to her, I did her a horrible disservice by not really believing what she told me, because Omar did such a good job of convincing me otherwise. But now, after six woman, some of whom I referred to Dr. Illan, some not, have contacted me regarding what happened to them, I know now that first patient was telling me the truth, she did not misinterpret anything and I must speak out.

So, what is it that I am speaking off? I am talking about taking advantage of woman who have traveled to a foreign country by themselves, most likely have low self-esteem due to their weight issues, they are scared and they are lonely. Then, along comes Omar. He is by their side throughout their stay. He is, as I said before, charming and charismatic. They very quickly find themselves falling victim to him, and he takes advantage of them in several different ways. He either is sexually suggestive to them, sexually inappropriate, or convinces these woman he truly cares for/loves them and begins a romantic relationship with them. Because of how vulnerable they are, they believe he really does care about them, and they allow themselves to be wooed by him and have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with him. Then, shortly after, he basically dumps them. He quits responding to their calls, texts, etc. He leaves these woman feeling broken and foolish for falling for him. They feel like they have done something wrong, when in fact, they are merely the victim of a heartless man taking extreme advantage of his position and their vulnerability. Understand, I am not saying this happens with every patient, but it does happen and it shows an extreme lack of professionalism and moral character.

I have attempted to contact Dr. Illan to speak with him personally about this. Unfortunately, Omar makes that nearly impossible. All calls, emails, etc. are intercepted by him. And, here is the saddest part of all, Dr. Illan already knows what is going on. So, I am doubtful my talking to him would make a difference. Dr. Illan knows Omar has a strong fan base, and therefore, brings him a great deal of business. So, he turns a blind eye to what is happening. Which, is why I have no guilt in publicly coming out and sharing what I know. I will be honest, my goal here is to have Omar removed from his position as coordinator with Baja Bariatrics and Dr. Illan, and to see that he does not work in this field or any other field where he can take advantage of woman again. And, if Dr. Illan goes down as a result, well, shame on him for allowing it to happen in the first place.

Alex, you agree that this thread continues to provide valuable information? Really? I think the relevant info was presented many many posts before. Fact or no an accusation was made. This provided us with information that is up to us as individuals to digest and determine for ourselves if it should be a part in our decision to utilize Dr Illan's services. Bashing the women who came forward, who, if true, are truly victims, is very sad. Those who wish to support Omar have said their piece as well. Why continue this! Is the only way for relief from these types of threads is to delete my app? So sad, cuz there really were good things here. But I can't stand for this any longer. It has gone from informative to cat fighting and nasty comments. Well, maybe that is what you enjoy. Who knows, maybe no better morals then Omar has.

I am also a patient of Dr.Illan and had a postive experience. That being said, I was told by Omar himself that he had "hooked up" with a couple of patients. He said they basically threw themselves at him. I did advise him that he should probably keep it on a professional level. I agree these women are probably vulnerable but I also think the are fully aware of what they are doing. There were other women with the group when I was there and he didn't act inappropriate in any way that I saw. In my opinion these woman are flirting and making advances at him. The only thing wrong is that he should keep it professional while they are there for surgery. If they want to go back down and hook after they're not patience then more power to them.

Alex, you agree that this thread continues to provide valuable information? Really? I think the relevant info was presented many many posts before. Fact or no an accusation was made. This provided us with information that is up to us as individuals to digest and determine for ourselves if it should be a part in our decision to utilize Dr Illan's services. Bashing the women who came forward, who, if true, are truly victims, is very sad. Those who wish to support Omar have said their piece as well. Why continue this! Is the only way for relief from these types of threads is to delete my app? So sad, cuz there really were good things here. But I can't stand for this any longer. It has gone from informative to cat fighting and nasty comments. Well, maybe that is what you enjoy. Who knows, maybe no better morals then Omar has.

Just stop reading it. You are making the choice to click on it.

I just hate how this type of thread is degrading the overal value of what I once thought was a respectable and worthy source of bariatric information. But you are right it is up to me to stop this nonsense on my own.

Susan, Wasn’t this topic covered on an episode of Jerry Springer? As I remember, when the results came out the accuser wasn’t raped by the doctor, but had an affair with the doctor’s homeless brother that ended in pregnancy. Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?  

nm

Edited July 15, 201412 yr by woo woo

Agree with jiinwa. I really had hoped this post would be closed. Enough has been said pro/con.

 

Sad that women have to treat each other this way rather than build each other up and be supportive.

 

I don't appreciate high school bully behavior.

Well here I am again, and I think Im ready to tell more about what happened to me and how I let this happen. I did not have any preconceived ideas about Omar when I arrived in Tijuana he just seemed like a really nice guy but I did notice that it seemed like he tries hard to talk to you as if he's known you his whole life. So you feel at ease and this is when you open up to him about things in your life. He seems so genuinely interested in your life and is so sympathetic. You see,  my husband is a severe psychiatric patient, he suffers from multiple psychiatric conditions and Bi polar and Borderline Personality Disorder being the main 2, there are more but I wont list them all. I have endured for many years much mental anguish and abuse, not to mention the unbelievable stress and anxiety that goes along with caring for someone in this state who has attempted suicide multiple times. We have not lived as "husband and wife" for many years now and I have not had any intimate relations with any man during this time. I made the mistake of sharing these things with Omar and he swooped in like a bird of prey and was all over it, taking full advantage of the low place I was at in my life. He lavished me with compliments and extra attention that I hadn't seen in years, I was too blind to see what was really happening but make no mistake, he wasn't. He wasted no time and he used me to satisfy his own personal needs. Now I accept the fact that I am an adult and should have known better but in the state of mind I was in I just wasn't capable of seeing the truth. I know that I am going to get bashed for this even more and even as I type, the administrators and a few others of Team Illan have since disbanded the group and have started a new "secret group" called Mexico Gastric and Bariatric Surgery with Dr Illan AND Support Group. They are openly bashing me and talking about how I fell "In Love" and got my feelings hurt by Omar and that I am now trying to hurt the group/Baja Bariatrics.  Sherry24184  an admin. who supposedly has a dear friend who was victim and whom I even confided in about some things that happened,  is one of them. Then there is  GAmom the founder of team Illan who claims to be a business partner with Omar for a new Forum they are creating and  lets see there is also coexist123 who apparently was one of the original ones Omar  was trying to hook up with,  and kept refering to her husband when he would call as a c**k blocker  and of coarse there is that Whitney girl who is so out of the box herself with defending him its unreal. I don't know why these  women are so strongly attacking me, all I can say is this. I arrived in Tijuana at the end of my rope in life and although I opened the door to the wolf in sheeps clothing I do not deserve this. So now there it is and I am sure there will be more vicious attacks coming my way but if one person is spared from ever going through this then so be it .... bring it on!  After all the saying does go "That which does not kill us makes us stronger"  and this will not kill me but I am and will continue to get stronger every day.

Lol really?! I don't even speak to Omar anymore so keep my name out of your post Sandi! I don't have to bash you to anyone cause everything I said I told you!! Before you went back to MX have an affair. Please don't play with me or pull the victim bs with me cause me and Jessica was your friend! We begged you to leave him alone. Even after all that he put you through you went back to MX and slept with him so umm yea you could have prevented getting hurt. You was involved months before the sexual affair....

Well here I am again, and I think Im ready to tell more about what happened to me and how I let this happen. I did not have any preconceived ideas about Omar when I arrived in Tijuana he just seemed like a really nice guy but I did notice that it seemed like he tries hard to talk to you as if he's known you his whole life. So you feel at ease and this is when you open up to him about things in your life. He seems so genuinely interested in your life and is so sympathetic. You see, my husband is a severe psychiatric patient, he suffers from multiple psychiatric conditions and Bi polar and Borderline Personality Disorder being the main 2, there are more but I wont list them all. I have endured for many years much mental anguish and abuse, not to mention the unbelievable stress and anxiety that goes along with caring for someone in this state who has attempted suicide multiple times. We have not lived as "husband and wife" for many years now and I have not had any intimate relations with any man during this time. I made the mistake of sharing these things with Omar and he swooped in like a bird of prey and was all over it, taking full advantage of the low place I was at in my life. He lavished me with compliments and extra attention that I hadn't seen in years, I was too blind to see what was really happening but make no mistake, he wasn't. He wasted no time and he used me to satisfy his own personal needs. Now I accept the fact that I am an adult and should have known better but in the state of mind I was in I just wasn't capable of seeing the truth. I know that I am going to get bashed for this even more and even as I type, the administrators and a few others of Team Illan have since disbanded the group and have started a new "secret group" called Mexico Gastric and Bariatric Surgery with Dr Illan AND Support Group. They are openly bashing me and talking about how I fell "In Love" and got my feelings hurt by Omar and that I am now trying to hurt the group/Baja Bariatrics. Sherry24184 an admin. who supposedly has a dear friend who was victim and whom I even confided in about some things that happened, is one of them. Then there is GAmom the founder of team Illan who claims to be a business partner with Omar for a new Forum they are creating and lets see there is also coexist123 who apparently was one of the original ones Omar was trying to hook up with, and kept refering to her husband when he would call as a c**k blocker and of coarse there is that Whitney girl who is so out of the box herself with defending him its unreal. I don't know why these women are so strongly attacking me, all I can say is this. I arrived in Tijuana at the end of my rope in life and although I opened the door to the wolf in sheeps clothing I do not deserve this. So now there it is and I am sure there will be more vicious attacks coming my way but if one person is spared from ever going through this then so be it .... bring it on! After all the saying does go "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" and this will not kill me but I am and will continue to get stronger every day.

Edited July 15, 201412 yr by GAmom

Well here I am again, and I think Im ready to tell more about what happened to me and how I let this happen. I did not have any preconceived ideas about Omar when I arrived in Tijuana he just seemed like a really nice guy but I did notice that it seemed like he tries hard to talk to you as if he's known you his whole life. So you feel at ease and this is when you open up to him about things in your life. He seems so genuinely interested in your life and is so sympathetic. You see, my husband is a severe psychiatric patient, he suffers from multiple psychiatric conditions and Bi polar and Borderline Personality Disorder being the main 2, there are more but I wont list them all. I have endured for many years much mental anguish and abuse, not to mention the unbelievable stress and anxiety that goes along with caring for someone in this state who has attempted suicide multiple times. We have not lived as "husband and wife" for many years now and I have not had any intimate relations with any man during this time. I made the mistake of sharing these things with Omar and he swooped in like a bird of prey and was all over it, taking full advantage of the low place I was at in my life. He lavished me with compliments and extra attention that I hadn't seen in years, I was too blind to see what was really happening but make no mistake, he wasn't. He wasted no time and he used me to satisfy his own personal needs. Now I accept the fact that I am an adult and should have known better but in the state of mind I was in I just wasn't capable of seeing the truth. I know that I am going to get bashed for this even more and even as I type, the administrators and a few others of Team Illan have since disbanded the group and have started a new "secret group" called Mexico Gastric and Bariatric Surgery with Dr Illan AND Support Group. They are openly bashing me and talking about how I fell "In Love" and got my feelings hurt by Omar and that I am now trying to hurt the group/Baja Bariatrics. Sherry24184 an admin. who supposedly has a dear friend who was victim and whom I even confided in about some things that happened, is one of them. Then there is GAmom the founder of team Illan who claims to be a business partner with Omar for a new Forum they are creating and lets see there is also coexist123 who apparently was one of the original ones Omar was trying to hook up with, and kept refering to her husband when he would call as a c**k blocker and of coarse there is that Whitney girl who is so out of the box herself with defending him its unreal. I don't know why these women are so strongly attacking me, all I can say is this. I arrived in Tijuana at the end of my rope in life and although I opened the door to the wolf in sheeps clothing I do not deserve this. So now there it is and I am sure there will be more vicious attacks coming my way but if one person is spared from ever going through this then so be it .... bring it on! After all the saying does go "That which does not kill us makes us stronger" and this will not kill me but I am and will continue to get stronger every day.

I so sorry this happen to you. You are brave to step out into this thread. The good news is it's over and done and hopefully you can heal from this experience sooner rather than later. We have all been victimized in our life - and people will often attack the victim rather than face their own vulnerability. Thanks for taking a stand for victims everywhere and telling your story.

Oh and not to mention that he told me that it couldn't be nothing between y'all but you refused to take the hint. Girl please just give it up.. I can't believe you really want to put all your business out like this. Cause you already know if you wanna call me out it's on..

Well, I am pretty much done with this place but I saw Mxtransformed's post and want to add a few things.

I have no problem with someone who wants to warn other women of a playboy. That's FINE with me.

However, Susan made this big post that seemed to many of us to be saying Omar is attacking women or molesting them with the implication he is doing this while under anesthesia or otherwise unable to consent.

It is a completely different thing when someone returns to Mexico, hooks up (yes, even with a playboy), and then it falls apart. So, I am sorry you got hurt, and I appreciate the warning and I am glad you clarified that he was not attacking anyone.

The especially egregious part - in my opinion - was the original poster stating that her goal is to take down Dr. Illan while never having talked to him but guessing that he knows about it and condones it to get business. THAT is the particularly unfair part. It is very vengeful and wrong to do.

Edited July 15, 201412 yr by Travelmego

Say what you want Jennifer, you dont know anything about what happened when i went back to Tijuana and for the record I had not even been talking to Omar before I went back. I had double sinus lifts for implants, and what happened between us was already done. You unfriended and even blocked me months ago so dont act like you know anything about what was going on with me there because you dont. 

Dr. Illan has nothing to do with this. Omar made lousy choices! So did these woman! It takes two to tango!

Some of these "victims" are not victims at all. Just scorned lovers!

Edited July 15, 201412 yr by coexist23

I don't need details about when u went back I know enough. Don't forget all our chats...screen shots don't lie. You didn't have to go back and see him! All I'm saying is dont play the victim role cause u know a well as I do u knew all about him