Yes, it's true.

:clap2: BLIND FAITH IN BAD LEADERSHIP IS NOT PATRIOTISM

IF YOU'RE NOT OUTRAGED, YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION

IF YOU SUPPORTED BUSH, A YELLOW RIBBON WON'T MAKE UP FOR IT

POVERTY, HEALTH CARE & HOMELESSNESS ARE MORAL ISSUES

OF COURSE IT HURTS. YOU'RE GETTING SCREWED BY AN ELEPHANT

BUSH LIED, AND YOU KNOW IT

RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM: A THREAT ABROAD, A THREAT AT HOME

GOD BLESS EVERYONE (No exceptions)

BUSH SPENT YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY ON HIS WAR

WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?

IF YOU SUPPORT BUSH'S WAR, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE? SHUT UP AND SHIP OUT

FEEL SAFER NOW?

I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO SCREWED HIS INTERN THAN ONE WHO SCREWED HIS COUNTRY

JESUS WAS A SOCIAL ACTIVIST - THAT IS A LIBERAL

IS IT 2008 YET?

DISSENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM -- Thomas Jefferson

DON'T BLAME ME. I VOTED AGAINST BUSH -- TWICE!

ANNOY A CONSERVATIVE; THINK FOR YOURSELF

VISUALIZE IMPEACHMENT

STOP MAD COWBOY DISEASE

GEORGE W. BUSH: MAKING TERRORISTS FASTER THAN HE CAN KILL THEM

DON'T CONFUSE DYING FOR OIL WITH FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM

STEM CELL RESEARCH IS PRO LIFE

REBUILD IRAQ? WHY NOT SPEND 87 BILLION ON AMERICA?

FACT: BUSH OIL 1999 - $19 BARREL 2006 - $70 BARREL

THE LAST TIME RELIGION CONTROLLED POLITICS, PEOPLE GOT BURNED AT THE STAKE

HOW ON EARTH CAN 59,411,287 PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?

And nobody has embarrassed this country more than BuSh has. Speak to people from Europe or almost any place else in the world.

I am far more embarassed of Clinton and Carter. Not embarrased by Bush at all. Bush acted on intelligence he thought to be credible (as did everyone at the time)

Wow, I come to this site to get support for my weight issues and get this crappy thread. I obviously don't support the views here, but is this the site for this? I guess you all will be more happy when we become a democrat controled socialist state. Good luck with all that!!

Wait... now WHY are you on the "Rants and Raves" forum??? Could you enlighten me?

If you don't want to rant and rave, then you can stay on the forums that aren't for ranting and raving.

And while you're at it, it would be awesome if you could be honest about your opinion instead of using some excuse like "this is supposed to be for weight loss support".

Why don't you tell everyone how great you think Bush is, since that's your real agenda?

It would also be awesome if you didn't refer to my thread as "crappy".

Wow, I come to this site to get support for my weight issues and get this crappy thread. I obviously don't support the views here, but is this the site for this? I guess you all will be more happy when we become a democrat controled socialist state. Good luck with all that!!

Rants and Raves is just that. A place to talk about non-weight loss issues, to "Gripe, complain, moan, fight, rant and rave.".

Helloooo, Congress voted for the war also, even miss Clinton.....

OU: Didn't you realize you were in a Rants and Raves section? For real support about your Lap Band, check out some of the regular Lap Band Support threads.

BTW, why must we settle for either an administration that puts us in a socialist state or one like we have now? Did the U.S. become a socialist state when we had a Democrat in the White House and a more evenly divided Congress?

As for Bill Clinton's actions with Monica Lewinsky. His actions didn't embarrass me. The actions that the Republican party took in an effort to oust him embarrassed me and the entire country - or should have. Do middle of the road Republicans not get that even today?

Guess that might answer the question about whether your everyday Republicans are upset or embarassed about the past 2 elections where high jinx ran rampant (and not just in Florida).

I totally get that my Republican neighbors don't like the platform of the Democratic party. I understand that they do like the Republican platform and agenda. But getting their man into office by ANY means, ethics aside, is downright frightening to me!

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But you know, people have a hard time thinking for themselves sometimes, examining an issue, a cause, or a person independently.

True, and of course politians are good at feeding into our fears and concerns.

But I don't get the "I wouldn't vote for ___" because of the people supporting them/it/that. There is more then enough nastiness on both sides.

P.S. Carter was not a great President, but he is a good humanitarian. And he has contributed to the betterment of people all over the world. Do you know that he and his team have been enlisted to monitor elections in other countries? Too darned bad he wasn't asked to monitor the ones in the U.S.

We have not forgotten 911, but apparently Mr. BuSh has, or how else do you explain why he has 150,000 troops in the wrong country?

If BuSh had been president on December 7, 1941, he would have invaded China.

And nobody has embarrassed this country more than BuSh has. Speak to people from Europe or almost any place else in the world.

Much of the world couldn't begin to understand why such an issue was made here over Clinton getting a BJ.

As you say, they have very definite opinions about Bush.

Ahhh, political season in all its glory!! I can't wait until the election is over so our elected officials can get back to working on the issues and work on problem solving rather than finger pointing and mud slinging. That is, after all, what we pay them for.

I hope you know I know that.

I sincerely hope so, too. But I don't think that's the case. I think people are easily swayed by the opinions of others and of mud-slinging -- hence the proliferation of negative ads these days.

There are good and bad politicians on both sides of the aisle. Too often people vote down party lines without looking at the actual politicians involved. I was explaining name recognition to my 9YO daughter the other day when she asked why there were a ton of signs in the grass in front of the supermarket. When I told her some people vote for someone just because they recognize the name, even if they don't know what that person stands for, she announced that that was a stupid way to decide who to vote for. And it is. I'd rather people not vote than vote without understanding the issues.

Of course I knew that you knew. I think, ya know! :phanvan

I totally agree, there are good and bad on both sides, and so often it seems like it's the same-old with just the names and R/D affiliation that changes.

You have a smart kid!

But getting their man into office by ANY means, ethics aside, is downright frightening to me!

Huh? I think this is the root of all elections, not just electing Republicans.

Juicy thread to say the least. I feel the anger hitting the keyboard as I type.

Helloooo, Congress voted for the war also, even miss Clinton.....

Based on the intelligence they were allowed to see...

Anger and hatred are pretty powerful words. We don't have to like or admire our President. We can disagree with his policies, or any policy. That is what's so great about America. We can agree to disagree as well. Why is it if my opinion is not the same as yours I get labeled?

And I don't have to concentrate and let the lapband and weight loss rule my life. I have many other interests, including what is going on in my government.

For some I guess this board should only be about the lapband. In that case, those that don't have one (from loss or otherwise) should not enter their opinion on weightloss. Also, those that have had other procedures should not be here as well.

Maybe total obsession on the band and all it is continues to make us crazy when it comes to food. It feeds our obsessions. Uh OH, was Oprah on to something on that show she did?

OK I guess I've said enough. I thought the discussions here were interesting, but now they have turned from debate to personal. It seems this board can't discuss anything but lapband, and then that got a few in trouble as well.