I have decided to start this thread and write this post because I have been feeling strongly about a couple of things and I feel a need to let it out.

First let me start by saying that I have been spending less time on LBT lately not because I am disapointed with the direction it is going but rather because as a male I find it to be dominated by the fairer sex and this leads me to my first issue.

I am frustrated with the rules of engangement here at LBT, I think they are Bul***it. The rules here are rules that only females could come up with and here is what I mean. It's okay to go on and on about a person as long as you preface your remarks with statements like "There is a person on LBT who I really like who has been attacked by others who I don't want to name" Everybody knows who the people are that are being discussed but as long as you don't say their names it's fine. This reminds of my early teen years when the girls in my class would play that game the sole purpose was to define who could be freinds with who.

I have no problem if someone thinks I'm an ass and tells me so. It's simple if I think your an ass***le then I will say "I think your an Ass**le" you can say back go F**k yourself your the ass**le.

Instead I read " This person is a really really great person who just wants peace on earth and these evil people (I won't say their names because I am a good person too just like you know who) are being terrible in how they attack her every word. I say bull**it, If you have something to say about someone have the guts to say it and the courage to name names.

The next issue I want to rant about is the one I am most passionatte about. There has been a lot of discussion about people making other people feel bad about their weight loss. As people who have decided to use the band as a weight loss tool we have leveled the playing field for the first time. This has made it possible for us for the first time to win our long battles with obesity. This does not however negate years and years of battling obesity and the scars that come with those battles. In my previouse life I was always in one of three states and these were 1. Losing weight 2. Gaining back weight 3. Obese ashamed that I had gained all the weight and more back and waiting for the next scheme to make me skinny again but had given up for now.

Depending on what state I was in my reaction to the weight loss of others was drastically impacted. When I was losing I was eager to hear and share in the weight loss advice of others. When I was in state 2 I was happy for those individuals who were in state 1 but sometimes I just wanted to tell them to shut up, I was afraid to because that was the first sign that I had moved to state 3 and was not going back to state 1. State 3 meant that I knew that everyone who was losing weight was a fool to believe that they wouldn't eventualy gain all their weight back and more. My only hope is that they would soon shut the F**k up and realize that they were doomed for failure.

The band has leveled the playing field but it hasn't removed those old biasis for any of us. What this means is when someone starts to give advice about weight loss often our first response is to want to say oh shut the f**k up soon you will be fat again. Our ability to suceed has been greatly increased but our moods still, at times, make us feel guilt when we hear about the sucess of others. (deep breath) so here is my point, there have been a number of threads from a number of people about other members of LBT not being completely supportive of the wins of others. My point is, it's okay, we should understand better than anyone what motivates this behavior. Why should it matter any way, I couldn't give a flying F**k if anyone disaproves of my weight loss. I am a few days away from my 2 year bandiversary and I have lost just over 120 pounds. I work out 5 days a week and I eat too fuc**ng much ice cream. But I am happy and certain that I will lose another 30-40 pounds by this time next year. If I only lose 20 no big deal I will lose the rest the next year. If anyone disagrees go F**k yourself!!!

Merry Christmas Mother F**kers :)

WOW, I never read about anyone fighting on here. Or being mean to someone. I guess I haven't been on here long enough.

We are all here for one reason so can't we all just get along?

What ever happened to Rondey King anyway? LOL

Peace, JLOVE69

WOW, I never read about anyone fighting on here. Or being mean to someone. I guess I haven't been on here long enough.

We are all here for one reason so can't we all just get along?

What ever happened to Rondey King anyway? LOL

Peace, JLOVE69

There are a lot of people who post in rants and raves that have very strong opinions and like to voice them. There are some very heated discussions that

go on here.

I really haven't seen any fighting on any other part of the board. I really don't think of the fights in rants and raves as really fights either. I think of it as people expressing their very strong opinions back and forth.

AND THAT IS WHY I have always preferred to be friends with guys. None of the caddy bullshit & CAT fights you see with women. I hate the crap on some of these threads & can't believe it is from adults.

AMEN to that!! Guess thats why I don't have many female friends outside family I CAN'T STAND drama and BS. Most guys don't bother. And thankfully I know a couple other females who don't wanna live soap opera lives. lol

But my ex was an expert people manipulator. So I have an extra deep hatred for that kind of behavior.

AMEN to that!! Guess thats why I don't have many female friends outside family I CAN'T STAND drama and BS.

that's the point of RnR though ... you CAN have drama & bs ...

I avoid drama & bs in my life. Family members have enough, I live vicariously through their stories.. and the pots that are stirred in RnR. I have to entertain myself somehow!

I'm getting a tat that reads PP forever :confused:

I think that getting a Tat is a good idea, that way the bully's are easily identified. Maybe have it placed on the middle of the forehead.

I can't believe my thread got locked. Nobody was even calling each other names in there.

I'm sorry Denise. I thought your thread started with a great topic. Sorry it went out of control. :think

Think of another and we'll try to play nice. :confused:

I think that getting a Tat is a good idea, that way the bully's are easily identified. Maybe have it placed on the middle of the forehead.

Yeah but then that would just lead to debate on what one feels actually defines bully. Not everyone has the same perspective.

I can't believe my thread got locked. Nobody was even calling each other names in there.

i was surprised as well... it was tame compared to some of the other threads around here...

It's interesting that the Walls of Text thread should be mentioned here. After reading that thread it is easy to see who the bully's are.

Gang mentality is interesting especially if you consider that the gang feels like they are doing nothing wrong because their actions are supported by a large group. The ancient Greeks reffered to this as the tyranny of the masses, they believed that it was the single greatest flaw of democracy.

TommyO

I think you may be my hero

Gang mentality is interesting especially if you consider that the gang feels like they are doing nothing wrong because their actions are supported by a large group. The ancient Greeks reffered to this as the tyranny of the masses, they believed that it was the single greatest flaw of democracy.

I rarely agree with you, TommyO, but on this issue (tyranny of the masses) I couldn't agree more. Might -- or majority vote -- doesn't always make right.

Tommy O

Dude..........