Had an interesting talk with my dietitian today. She is hell bent that we work up to 1000-1200 calories per day as soon as possible. I'm on week two...she doesn't expect me to get there until week five or so, but encourages me to try.

I asked, Why not take advantage of the natural desire to eat fewer calories and....you know....lose a little more weight?

And what she said kinda floored me.

She said that prolonged low calorie diets will switch your metabolism to a starvation mode where body processes are slowed, energy is conserved and *gasp* YOU STOP LOSING WEIGHT. Worse, you can lower your metabolic set point to sluggish starvation levels.

She goes...I know, I know...seems counterproductive, doesn't it? After a lifetime of being heavy, someone's telling you that you have to eat more to lose weight...but it's true! 60-80g of Protien, and 1000-1200 calories. Both are equally important if you want to lose weight and set yourself up for a healthy metabolism later. Balance your diet. Protein absolutely, but fruits, veggies, healthy fats, and Healthy low glycemic complex carbs, too. Balance is important for good metabolism for life. You can lose weight fast on all protein, but you can create a healthy metabolism that lasts a lifetime with balance.

She also said that diets under 1000 calories are correlated with nutritional deficiency, bone loss, more hair loss, and muscle loss. Ouch.

So yeah....eat Bubbalah...eat.... Seems absolutely unreal.

On the plus side, I found a comfort food I absolutely love that's legal:

Cocoa wheats thinned with chocolate Premier Protien. Slides down easy...and the energy lasts.

I would take that with a grain of salt. I mean yeah I guess it's possible in some cases, but I didn't get above 500-600 calories for at least six months. No stalls, no nutritional deficiencies or bone loss. Muscle gain. I met my protein goals starting week 3. I started running week 4. I ran a half marathon month 8. Yoga 4x per week.

And now at four years out I eat well over 2000 calories per day to maintain at a size 4.

Yes, that’s absolutely right! I wish this other lady saw this post earlier in the week that had the same issue only eating 500cals but left the forum after being berated and accused of lying... the body goes into starvation mode and needs food to boost the metabolism - this is basic fitness knowledge and I’m surprised so many don’t realise that your body needs fuel to build muscle and burn fat or you will just lose muscle and end up a skinny fat person.


Sleeved: 2/12/2017

SW: 209lbs/95kgs

The other lady was gaining not stalling and that's different.

Let me clarify... everyone should listen to their team. You hired them because you trust them!

But if your team encourages very low calorie, trust them! Because while it's possible that the OP's nutritionist sees that in her practice, there isn't any science that shows that definitively. And many medical professionals see something different in their practice.

If you want to try to shake things up and try someone else's advice because your teams advise isn't working for you, by all means do so! But don't take the title of the thread here or even the advice from the OP as fact. It's one persons opinion and not the opinion of the medical professionals you hired.

Trust the people you hired or do your own research and experimentation.

2 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

Definitely! I am LOVING me some cocoa wheats and sugar free oatmeal....I found the little pouches in apple cinnamon and maple flavor. I thin them with Premier Protein, too....more bang for my buck spacewise. I also put caramel permeir protien in my decaf coffee....not bad!! Have to try cream Soup yet...having a little greek yogurt after I finish this shake:) Feeling blissed out and high energy. Got 10,000 steps today and feel great:)

Coco wheats is that a cereal? I'm new here. Surgery was 4 days ago.

Yes, Coco Wheats is a hot cereal.....like Cream of Wheat with Cocoa in it. It's 110 calories a serving, only I can only do half a serving thinned with about a third of a protien shake. Still comes out to about 100 calories. Good stuff!

Edited December 13, 20178 yr by Creekimp13

12 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

Yes, Coco Wheats is a hot cereal.....like Cream of Wheat with Cocoa in it. It's 110 calories a serving, only I can only do half a serving thinned with about a third of a protien shake. Still comes out to about 100 calories. Good stuff!

You can get this online only or I'm a grocery store?

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/weight-loss/too-few-calories

https://www.livestrong.com/article/485503-will-eating-too-few-calories-make-you-gain-weight/

You can get coco wheats anywhere:) Very common item, sold in a box by the oatmeal and other hot cereals. But make sure your plan allows it and your dietitian approves.

I have to say this post is so true! I am now just over a year out from being sleeved. I was threatened a couple times to have a feeding tube inserted due to only eating 100 to 300 calories a day at 6 months to 9 months out. I got better and didn't have to get the feeding tube. However, I still only get about 700 calories a day. My starting weight was 257lbs and I am now but 144lbs. I am currently in a stall but still working on it with my team. We are slowly getting there! Definitely want to listen to them!

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Your nut sounds very much like my NUT. She wanted me up to 1000 calories as soon as possible and to be getting 1200 calories by 6 months out. She also is very big on getting a balanced diet that includes carbs, starches and lots of veggies. She also stated after about 9 months out she wanted me to move to a more balanced diet and less of a protein first diet.

This is actually true, your body will store the energy you ingest in anticipation of not getting enough food in the future, like a hibernation mode of sorts. Now add in exercise and you will stunt your progress even further...The average female needs 1500 to 1800 calories a day in general and the average male 2000 to 2500 a day. Now when you exercise you need even more.

The trick is to find the proper amount and type of calories for your body type and daily routine...

13 hours ago, dominyks_mom said:

I have to say this post is so true! I am now just over a year out from being sleeved. I was threatened a couple times to have a feeding tube inserted due to only eating 100 to 300 calories a day at 6 months to 9 months out. I got better and didn't have to get the feeding tube. However, I still only get about 700 calories a day. My starting weight was 257lbs and I am now but 144lbs. I am currently in a stall but still working on it with my team. We are slowly getting there! Definitely want to listen to them!

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700 is dangerously low!!!! Seriously...Up it to 1200 and you'll break your stall and feel healthier.

700 is dangerously low!!!! Seriously...Up it to 1200 and you'll break your stall and feel healthier.

That's been something we are trying to work on. I have never been much of an eater. I even had to verify with my surgeon if the surgery was right for me because of it.

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I'm a little more than 8 months out from my bypass/hernia repair and have lost about 95 pounds. I've had a few long stalls (like 2 months) and both times the NUT told me to increase to 800 on the first one and 1000 on the second one and 1200 on the third one and I started losing again and broke the stall. Its so counterintuitive for sure but I am a big believer in eating more to lose. Good luck!

Had an interesting talk with my dietitian today. She is hell bent that we work up to 1000-1200 calories per day as soon as possible. I'm on week two...she doesn't expect me to get there until week five or so, but encourages me to try.
I asked, Why not take advantage of the natural desire to eat fewer calories and....you know....lose a little more weight?
And what she said kinda floored me.
She said that prolonged low calorie diets will switch your metabolism to a starvation mode where body processes are slowed, energy is conserved and *gasp* YOU STOP LOSING WEIGHT. Worse, you can lower your metabolic set point to sluggish starvation levels.
She goes...I know, I know...seems counterproductive, doesn't it? After a lifetime of being heavy, someone's telling you that you have to eat more to lose weight...but it's true! 60-80g of Protien, and 1000-1200 calories. Both are equally important if you want to lose weight and set yourself up for a healthy metabolism later. Balance your diet. Protein absolutely, but fruits, veggies, healthy fats, and Healthy low glycemic complex carbs, too. Balance is important for good metabolism for life. You can lose weight fast on all Protein, but you can create a healthy metabolism that lasts a lifetime with balance.
She also said that diets under 1000 calories are correlated with nutritional deficiency, bone loss, more hair loss, and muscle loss. Ouch.
So yeah....eat Bubbalah...eat.... Seems absolutely unreal.
On the plus side, I found a comfort food I absolutely love that's legal:
Cocoa wheats thinned with chocolate Premier Protien. Slides down easy...and the energy lasts.

So interesting@creekimp13 Im a little past week 4 but and between 559-650 calories. Mainly focusing on getting to 70g of protein and 64oz of fluids. At this stage I can’t eat more without water intake suffering bc really can’t do much more than 3 to 5 oz depending on the food. I’m wondering how to get to 1000. Veggies would get me there. Does she recommend potatoes? Will start working out in a couple of weeks so hopefully can increase food. Not getting enough protein to sacrifice giving up some for other foods.