Nutri relgiously preaches low carb, high protein. Surgeon equally staunch in a low carb high fat plan (dietdoctor.com). Is the low carb the main thing, and figuring out the fat to protein mix is left to me? (No one size fits all kinda thing)

In my opinion, yes. There is no one "right way". What doctors & nutritionists tell us will only take us so far. The rest is up to us. Don't worry too much about your surgical team's approval now. They can't undo your surgery now! :-) Good luck!

I'm sorry you have to deal with that as my doc and nut are preaching the same thing. I think you should for sure focus on your protein, but you may have to find what works best for you as well. Find something that you will want to do for the rest of your life, that's sustainable for you. You may need to really educate yourself on how/why things work or don't. Sorry part is that there's so many conflicting arguments out there (like your team). But again, find what will truly work for you hon. Blessings on your journey!

Edited June 11, 20179 yr by Newme17

12 minutes ago, Newme17 said:

I'm sorry you have to deal with that as my doc and nut are preaching the same thing. I think you should for sure focus on your Protein, but you may have to find what works best for you as well. Find something that you will want to do for the rest of your life, that's sustainable for you. You may need to really educate yourself on how/why things work or don't. Sorry part is that there's so many conflicting arguments out there (like your team). But again, find what will truly work for you hon. Blessings on your journey!

I really think this is the key. We have to figure out what works for our body and medical status. For many people low carb wroks, but this is going to be different for everyone. What good is a plan if you don't lose weight and feel good? If you can't sustain the lifestyle indefinitely you will just gain weight as soon as you stop which isn't any different than a diet.

I think another important aspect is the ability to be really honest with ourselves about what is working and what isn't. Sometimes we give up so fast and never give healthful changes a chance to take hold and slip back into the same habits we had before. I think this is what is so great about WLS. It gives our metabolism a reset which helps us loose weight and gain momentum, this gives us time to work on the changes we all need to make.

I have gotten terrible advice from nuts in the past so I think it is important for everyone to do some research on their own along the way.

I really think this is the key. We have to figure out what works for our body and medical status. For many people low carb wroks, but this is going to be different for everyone. What good is a plan if you don't lose weight and feel good? If you can't sustain the lifestyle indefinitely you will just gain weight as soon as you stop which isn't any different than a diet.
I think another important aspect is the ability to be really honest with ourselves about what is working and what isn't. Sometimes we give up so fast and never give healthful changes a chance to take hold and slip back into the same habits we had before. I think this is what is so great about WLS. It gives our metabolism a reset which helps us loose weight and gain momentum, this gives us time to work on the changes we all need to make.
I have gotten terrible advice from nuts in the past so I think it is important for everyone to do some research on their own along the way.

Same boat. My NUT is ok with carbs (food pyramid) and the surgeon is all about very low carb.

So, i guess a food journal, scales, bs , and how ifeel over a longer time will sorta dictate my path. Avoiding processed carbs #1 regardless.

44 minutes ago, lizpuller said:

So, i guess a food journal, scales, bs , and how ifeel over a longer time will sorta dictate my path. Avoiding processed carbs #1 regardless.

Absolutely. What will work for you. ?

1 hour ago, lizpuller said:

So, i guess a food journal, scales, bs , and how ifeel over a longer time will sorta dictate my path. Avoiding processed carbs #1 regardless.

Avoiding processed anything is best.

The more important thing regarding fat vs protein is how to utilize the energy you get from it.

The only benefit of carbs is the immediate availability of energy. There's no question that this is the fastest way to get it due to not only how quickly it moves through the body and bloodstream but how quickly the muscles utilize as well.

Fat and protein take longer to digest, take longer to be utilized, but no question the next thing that the body goes for after carbs are depleted is fat available for energy. Protein is necessary to prevent muscle weakness but to even get the muscles to burning up the proteins within the muscle need to burn through carbs and fat. For those of us who are overweight that's why it's essential to get protein first and foremost, because the muscles will rapidly burn through it's energy stores and need replenishment, or else is burns the muscle proteins and makes one weaker, which has a doubling effect on those of us who are overweight.. makes us weaker and more prone to injury. The fat is merely for more sustained energy utilization.

Edited June 11, 20179 yr by PatientEleventyBillion

Thanks so much billion. Great info. Getting this peanut size brain to use it is next lol.

34 minutes ago, lizpuller said:

Thanks so much billion. Great info. Getting this peanut size brain to use it is next lol.

We were all there at one time. Not even just the peanut brain for me but being too depression prone and stubborn.

Also. Aside from metabolism etc. Protein is heavy, it seems to sit longer and fill you up faster. So it just makes sense long term, to make it the main part of your meals.