I am shocked at people getting attacked for going against the grain here. If you are 600lbs, then obviously you have a serious problem and need tons of rules and guidelines to break your very serious issue. No carbs, no falling off the wagon, plenty of exercerise, listening to Nutritionists..all that good stuff, by the book you must follow to get to a normal weight. It's like telling an alcoholic that they shouldn't drink again, sound advice.

Then there are people like me, and possibly bugle girl. I wasn't 600lbs. I was sick of dieting, really really sick of trying my whole life to lose 50-60 lbs. up and down roller coaster. I went into it not following any of the rules, and I got exactly what I wanted out of it. I could still socially eat, enjoy food, but have a little less of everything. I ate everything I did before, but way way way less. Only issues I've had were gallbladder and feeling weak. My weight loss was achieved. I never once felt deprived, and I feel I can carry about a normal life. Co-worker brings in cupcakes?- yes thankyou I will have one. I get a pizza and eat for a week, instead of a day.

So can we at least agree that it is not a one-size fits all solution to this? And for hecks sake, stop attacking everyone on here that doesn't have the same approach and diet plan you would give to someone morbidly obese. I am not an alcoholic, never was, I can drink a beer and not fall apart, same thing with food.

Thanks for replying. Are you maintaining your weight? Do you exercise often? Did anyone tell you that you could never eat pasta, fried foods, bread and other taste good food. I can't believe you can't eat salad. I love salad.

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yes I am maintaining the weight, the best thing about never being 'on the wagon' is that I never had the moment of 'oh crap I started eating carbs and gaining!' I was too weak and sick the first year to get a regular exercise routine, I couldn't handle the decreased food AND exercise, I didn't want to throw off my metabolism either. I didn't want to put my body in starvation mode. I wasn't a couch potato either, I had a full time job and a dog to walk. I have to say it worked for me, I dropped 60 lbs in under a year, I only had 60 to lose to begin with, 132 was my lowest weight, but I am good and steady at 135-138.

@Sait if you have not seen people getting attacked, you have not been here long enough!

@@mrsNilla my starting weight was 200. I did not have much to lose. I do not wish to do damage to people that are following the plan, that's great. But some are discouraged from wls because they do not want to change their eating. I do think one can achieve good results with or without surgery if they focus on portion seizes. Post op, I am still surprised with how much food people are served in restaurants, even kids meals are shocking. The French don't get fat, and they eat bread, cheese, and pastries. The secret? Portion size. I guess you could say I am living the French way of life in a very fat America.

@@jenn1 yes Jen I eat cheesecake all day everyday, every meal....(sarcasm) I had a wonderful snacks of cheesecake and coffee on a cruise vacation , and I didn't need to come to the forum and freak out about how I lived like a normal person on vacation would. Sheesh. Called life and a little splurge. Though I do have some in the fridge from neighbors, Christmas is a sabotage in itself.

@@jenn1 also did you ever think that people are gaining weight because they crash dieted and wrecked their metabolism from the start? Have you ever heard about yo-yo dieting? Have you ever heard about smaller portion sizes? Putting WLS aside, and the fact I wasn't morbidly obese to begin with, I don't think moderation is that crazy of an idea

@@Tootsietoes

I'm really confused as to what your agenda is here.

@@jenn1 also did you ever think that people are gaining weight because they crash dieted and wrecked their metabolism from the start? Have you ever heard about yo-yo dieting? Have you ever heard about smaller portion sizes? Putting WLS aside, and the fact I wasn't morbidly obese to begin with, I don't think moderation is that crazy of an idea

Where did @@jenn1 say that moderation is a crazy idea? You keep setting up strawmen and fighting with them while blaming it on 'others'. Jenn1 CLEARLY said if what you're doing is working for you and you're happy with it, then good on you. You're being rude and snarky for absolutely no reason..."have you ever heard about yo-yo dieting? Have you ever heard about smaller portion sizes?". What is the point of all this, except to fight?

@@Tootsietoes

I'm really confused as to what your agenda is here.

Tilting at windmills, me thinks.

@@Tootsietoes

I'm really confused as to what your agenda is here.

I'm confused as well. And worried someone brand new here will go with this mindset and do harm to themselves. I am a smaller BMI but do not agree with your train of thought. I take this very seriously as well as my Drs orders! Just my 2¢

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@@LipstickLady my agenda? Not make people feel bad for getting WLS and wanting to keep the same diet, I keep trying to talk my parents into it as I see them lose ton of weight with strict diets, only to gain it all back 6mo later. It's sad I had it so easy, everyone should have this opportunity to lose excess weight. Th

@@Jazzzyjay great, please listen to your doctor! Please I am not a doctor, I am not giving medical advice, we are all adults here, take my story with a grain of salt

@@LipstickLady my agenda? Not make people feel bad for getting WLS and wanting to keep the same diet, I keep trying to talk my parents into it as I see them lose ton of weight with strict diets, only to gain it all back 6mo later. It's sad I had it so easy, everyone should have this opportunity to lose excess weight. Th

Where is anyone making someone feel bad about surgery? "Bugle girl", as you called her, (she has a name, btw...) was eating bugles less than two weeks out.

That was the only issue. She was still on mushies.

I don't care what diet anyone follows but, yes. I will encourage someone to follow the diet PRESCRIBED by their surgeon 100% of the time. If they choose not to, that's on them, but I won't validate bad decisions.

I agree. Everyone should have the opportunity to have this surgery IF they are emotionally and mentally ready for it.

guys i dont want to discourage anyone, long term studies have shown a healthy diet and lifestyle changes are the key to successful longterm weight-loss. thats a better mindset and goals that i need to work on, maybe i need to start following people that are doing it right, I am not

guys i dont want to discourage anyone, long term studies have shown a healthy diet and lifestyle changes are the key to successful longterm weight-loss. thats a better mindset and goals that i need to work on, maybe i need to start following people that are doing it right, I am not

Huh? I thought your way was working for you? I'm so confused. I'm out. I don't have time for games...

Thanks for replying. Are you maintaining your weight? Do you exercise often? Did anyone tell you that you could never eat Pasta, fried foods, bread and other taste good food. I can't believe you can't eat salad. I love salad. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

yes I am maintaining the weight, the best thing about never being 'on the wagon' is that I never had the moment of 'oh crap I started eating carbs and gaining!' I was too weak and sick the first year to get a regular exercise routine, I couldn't handle the decreased food AND exercise, I didn't want to throw off my metabolism either. I didn't want to put my body in starvation mode. I wasn't a couch potato either, I had a full time job and a dog to walk. I have to say it worked for me, I dropped 60 lbs in under a year, I only had 60 to lose to begin with, 132 was my lowest weight, but I am good and steady at 135-138.

@@mrsNilla my starting weight was 200. I did not have much to lose. I do not wish to do damage to people that are following the plan, that's great. But some are discouraged from wls because they do not want to change their eating. I do think one can achieve good results with or without surgery if they focus on portion seizes. Post op, I am still surprised with how much food people are served in restaurants, even kids meals are shocking. The French don't get fat, and they eat bread, cheese, and pastries. The secret? Portion size. I guess you could say I am living the French way of life in a very fat America.

@@jenn1 yes Jen I eat cheesecake all day everyday, every meal....(sarcasm) I had a wonderful Snacks of cheesecake and coffee on a cruise vacation , and I didn't need to come to the forum and freak out about how I lived like a normal person on vacation would. Sheesh. Called life and a little splurge. Though I do have some in the fridge from neighbors, Christmas is a sabotage in itself.

@@jenn1 also did you ever think that people are gaining weight because they crash dieted and wrecked their metabolism from the start? Have you ever heard about yo-yo dieting? Have you ever heard about smaller portion sizes? Putting WLS aside, and the fact I wasn't morbidly obese to begin with, I don't think moderation is that crazy of an idea

guys i dont want to discourage anyone, long term studies have shown a healthy diet and lifestyle changes are the key to successful longterm weight-loss. thats a better mindset and goals that i need to work on, maybe i need to start following people that are doing it right, I am not

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I don't think anybody cares what somebody eats 6 months or a year out. After cleared by your doc to 'try any food' ... Have at it. When I read constructive criticism from vets it usually someone days post op eating a porkchop or taco or drinking wine when they are still in the liquid part of their post op diet. That is never going to be cool nor will vets ever coddle or validate that behavior. EVER! It is potentially life threatening. When I see that kind of advice from vets am thinking 'yes' and hope all the newbies and pre-ops are paying attention. On the other hand if you stay at goal or under eating cupcakes good for you! I am happy for you and jealous. But the reality is I will fail if I made cupcakes and pizza a regular part of my diet. All I want newbies to know is that they might be lucky like the OP or unlucky like me. Thread lightly until you know for sure.