Many of you on here know me well, I have been a part of these message boards for years. I love our members and I want only the best for them. Therefore, I can not in good conscience keep this to myself any longer.

Dr. Illan is a wonderful surgeon. In fact, when I used to coordinate, for a while I actually referred patients to him. His coordinator, Omar, has a very, very faithful following. So much so, I fully expect and am prepared for the "verbal beating" I am going to get for going public with what I know. But, if I prevent just one woman from experiencing what I am about to share with you, then it will all be worth it.

As I said, Omar is very well loved among the patients, especially the ladies. He goes out of his way to ensure everyone has a great experience while there. He provides for the patient's every need, transports them around town, runs errands for them, sits by their bedside and so much more. He is very charming and charismatic. There will be many, many members who will respond to this thread stating just that. In fact, when the first patient, one that I had referred to them, approached me about what happened to her, I did her a horrible disservice by not really believing what she told me, because Omar did such a good job of convincing me otherwise. But now, after six woman, some of whom I referred to Dr. Illan, some not, have contacted me regarding what happened to them, I know now that first patient was telling me the truth, she did not misinterpret anything and I must speak out.

So, what is it that I am speaking off? I am talking about taking advantage of woman who have traveled to a foreign country by themselves, most likely have low self-esteem due to their weight issues, they are scared and they are lonely. Then, along comes Omar. He is by their side throughout their stay. He is, as I said before, charming and charismatic. They very quickly find themselves falling victim to him, and he takes advantage of them in several different ways. He either is sexually suggestive to them, sexually inappropriate, or convinces these woman he truly cares for/loves them and begins a romantic relationship with them. Because of how vulnerable they are, they believe he really does care about them, and they allow themselves to be wooed by him and have a romantic and/or sexual relationship with him. Then, shortly after, he basically dumps them. He quits responding to their calls, texts, etc. He leaves these woman feeling broken and foolish for falling for him. They feel like they have done something wrong, when in fact, they are merely the victim of a heartless man taking extreme advantage of his position and their vulnerability. Understand, I am not saying this happens with every patient, but it does happen and it shows an extreme lack of professionalism and moral character.

I have attempted to contact Dr. Illan to speak with him personally about this. Unfortunately, Omar makes that nearly impossible. All calls, emails, etc. are intercepted by him. And, here is the saddest part of all, Dr. Illan already knows what is going on. So, I am doubtful my talking to him would make a difference. Dr. Illan knows Omar has a strong fan base, and therefore, brings him a great deal of business. So, he turns a blind eye to what is happening. Which, is why I have no guilt in publicly coming out and sharing what I know. I will be honest, my goal here is to have Omar removed from his position as coordinator with Baja Bariatrics and Dr. Illan, and to see that he does not work in this field or any other field where he can take advantage of woman again. And, if Dr. Illan goes down as a result, well, shame on him for allowing it to happen in the first place.

So, you are saying that people who choose not to be offended by such nonsense are looking for a "certain kind of attention"? Snort! Ok.

One of my BFFs calls me a be@ner and I don't mind, does that mean I'm looking for a burrito bar, too?

Is it possible she was referring to the term "Latin Lover"?

Yes, by all means, ban us, block us, delete almost all of our posts. You have got quite the little system here Alex. You and your little workers can say ANYTHING you want and it's fine. What a power trip!

You need to be banned. I am not a worker. I need no power trip. I am a grandmother who worked in the Court system 44 years and I know right from wrong. Why do you not leave if you do not like Bariatric Pal? I think you have a real agenda here. I do not know what it is but something smells.

 

So, you are saying that people who choose not to be offended by such nonsense are looking for a "certain kind of attention"? Snort! Ok.

One of my BFFs calls me a be@ner and I don't mind, does that mean I'm looking for a burrito bar, too?

Is it possible she was referring to the term "Latin Lover"?

Uhhhmmmm. Yes. So was I.

I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH THIS SITE AND THE OWNER ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE. I HAVE SENT ALEX A MESSAGE WITH NO RESPONSE. BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN STATED. PEOPLE CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE. THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE LOCKED. YOU CAN LEAVE THE WARNINGS AND WHAT OTERS HAVE SAID ABOUT THE DOCTOR FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE. THE REST NEEDS TO BE GONE. I AM ALL BUT READY TO LEAVE THIS SITE AND GO ELSEWHERE. YES I AM YELLING AND I AM ANGRY! THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE A PLACE FOR SUPPORT, NOT A SITE FOR BULLYING AND HIGH SCHOOL GAMES. MY LIFE IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND SO IS MY HEALTH. I COME FOR SUPPORT AND THIS IS THE TOTAL OPPOSITE. I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT ARE SEEKING. I AM JUST SURPRISED THAT ALEX ALLOWS THIS TO CONTINUE. EVEN HE DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO A PERSONAL MESSAGE.

Why are you reading then?  Goodbye.

So, you are saying that people who choose not to be offended by such nonsense are looking for a "certain kind of attention"? Snort! Ok.

 

One of my BFFs calls me a be@ner and I don't mind, does that mean I'm looking for a burrito bar, too?

 

I honestly do not know of a single Latino man that would be offended by the term Latin Lover.  Quite the opposite, they would consider it a compliment! 

I honestly do not know of a single Latino man that would be offended by the term Latin Lover. Quite the opposite, they would consider it a compliment!

The Latino gentlemen I know are constantly flaunting their Latin lover-ness. If I told them they were acting like a white guy they'd be pissed.

Did you mean it in a positive way?

Yes I mean it in a positive way. We all have had a lover in our lives , it's up to us to decide which lover we want to be with.

Alex, as a 68 year old woman I applaud you for not shutting down this thread. If it offends some one they should quit looking. There is a story here that needs telling. There is not a person here who is without bad judgment and mistakes in their lives. Not ONE and certainly not me. Those who go to Mexico must be warned about this man, there is too much smoke here. If this man, God forbid, is HIV positive (and with his history God only knows what he can possibly be spreading), you might save one person from it by this thread. I hope common sense overtakes the ridiculousness of some of these rants, that the point is to warn women that a predator is in Mexico in sheeps' clothing.

Thank goodness that the majority of the people here can see the forest for the trees. Remember what we learned in health class... you aren't just sleeping with him, you're sleeping with EVERYBODY HES EVER SLEPT WITH. Yikes!

I am a 60 year old woman and I know when a horse has been beat to death. I have seen enough information here to agree that there is enough smoke to easily come to the assumption that truly there is likely unethical behavior here. Here is my take.....The ladies in question were not bad people, only a bit misguided by a very smooth talker. This happens everyday to many women around the world, not just in Mexico. Most appalling is the fact that the coordinator may even be beyond simple misconduct due to patient doctor relationship. Ok. Point has been well made. And I appreciate the information because it could have been much more serious considering HIV and other diseases. Best point that has been made on this thread for days! Anyone reading this thread now and in the future should be fully aware of potential abuse by this man of prey and that is the positive thing that has come from this thread. But what I don't get is why continue? I am not seeing the relevance of the nasty nasty comments that are being strewn from post to post. Am I missing something? Are we continuing to enlighten here or what is the ultimate goal past making everyone aware of this issue, which I think has already been accomplished. I would agree to support the women as a group to address the issue directly with Dr Illan, and see what actions the doctor is willing to take to resolve this misbehavior. Or even support any other actions that might stop future interactions between the coordinator and patients. I just don't see the purpose any more in what is going through this thread. Is there more relevant info to be had by continuing on with this topic? Or have all the actual facts to the reported abuse been made? If yes, put it out here because the actual facts ARE important. But if not, can we agree both sides have presented their case, opinions, etc, and we can be done here?

Susan, you may have responded already, but since there have been so many posts, I didn't see a reply. I'll paste my questions here again.

Are you suggesting that ethnic slurs are acceptable when a person feels slighted by others? Also, I wonder why you responded in the first person to a statement I made to another user of this website. Hmm.

Are you asserting that you do not have a personal relationship with one of the founding members of this website? Is that relationship predatory? Could such a relationship be considered predatory since you are a patient, as well? If I were he, I'd stay well away from someone with such a long list of accusations.

Do you mean that you did not work for a competing doctor at the time of the "discovery" of the first incident? Do you mean that you referred many patients to the doctor for whom a patient died? Are you certain that you didn't take issue with the death of that patient until you were dismissed from employment?

Didn't you seek medical treatment from the doctor to whom you referred patients? Didn't you, in fact, seek medical treatment in Tijuana AFTER you posted that it was extremely dangerous to do so?

Are you sure you didn't "find out" about a personal relationship of Omar's immediately following being denied for medical treatment by one of the medical teams you've accused? Could it be possible that this denial comes, in part, from medical professionals fearing getting involved with someone so inclined toward slander and defamation?

I'm curious as to why, and perhaps you can answer this... Why would women randomly seek you out to confide their deepest secrets if they'd felt victimized? I mean, I'm struggling to understand how it comes to be that a coordinator who is in no way connected to a medical team becomes the personal confidant of slighted or victimized patients. Can you tell me how, was it seven you said?, how did these women come to find you to express this very personal experience of feeling "taken advantage of?"

Susan, you may have responded already, but since there have been so many posts, I didn't see a reply.  I'll paste my questions here again.

 

Are you suggesting that ethnic slurs are acceptable when a person feels slighted by others?  Also, I wonder why you responded in the first person to a statement I made to another user of this website.  Hmm.

 

 

 

Are you asserting that you do not have a personal relationship with one of the founding members of this website?  Is that relationship predatory?  Could such a relationship be considered predatory since you are a patient, as well?  If I were he, I'd stay well away from someone with such a long list of accusations.

 

 

 

Do you mean that you did not work for a competing doctor at the time of the "discovery" of the first incident?  Do you mean that you referred many patients to the doctor for whom a patient died?  Are you certain that you didn't take issue with the death of that patient until you were dismissed from employment? 

 

 

 

Didn't you seek medical treatment from the doctor to whom you referred patients?  Didn't you, in fact, seek medical treatment in Tijuana AFTER you posted that it was extremely dangerous to do so?

 

 

 

Are you sure you didn't "find out" about a personal relationship of Omar's immediately following being denied for medical treatment by one of the medical teams you've accused?  Could it be possible that this denial comes, in part, from medical professionals fearing getting involved with someone so inclined toward slander and defamation?

 

 

 

I'm curious as to why, and perhaps you can answer this...  Why would women randomly seek you out to confide their deepest secrets if they'd felt victimized? I mean, I'm struggling to understand how it comes to be that a coordinator who is in no way connected to a medical team becomes the personal confidant of slighted or victimized patients.  Can you tell me how, was it seven you said?, how did these women come to find you to express this very personal experience of feeling "taken advantage of?"

 

I think it is pretty clear that Omar has a whole heck of a lot of booty call partners here.  I saw a photo of him.  For the life of me I can't figure out what anyone sees in him.

Me, neither.

Maybe it's about age groups and subliminal influence...

Anyone remember the 70's?!

Me, neither.

 

Maybe it's about age groups and subliminal influence...

 

Anyone remember the 70's?!

 

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I don't think so.  There is more to it than that.

 

For women to attack other women who are being honest, telling their story, and just stating the facts while totally defending a known felon, convicted felon, illegal alien, gang member, someone unable to cross the border to the US for fear of prison again, someone with absolutely no shred of morality, medical ethics... naw.  Something more is up.

Oh, I totally get you - and agree.. But you kinda missed the point of the post, dear

Oh, I totally get you - and agree.. But you kinda missed the point of the post, dear

No, I didn't. I just think this is an important topic and it speaks volumes how much people are defending this felon. I thought the original point was more important.