Rights of Medical Providers

BJean · March 27, 2007

Bubble: The morning after pill and abortion are very "hot button" words. You can't expect to post them in the middle of your discussion about medical providers and not expect them to enter into the discussion. I understand what your thread was meant to discuss, but to say that it isn't about abortion or the morning after pill isn't correct.

If it weren't for the morning after pill and abortion, would you still be discussing the rights of medical providers to participate in a particular procedure or pill to be dispensed? If so, what are they and why didn't you use those things instead of abortion and the morning after pill? It seems that it is because you knew that abortion and the morning after pill are things that will get a lot of attention in any thread. If not that, why not just ask if people think medical providers have the right to refuse to use a procedure they believe goes against their moral code or value system?

BJean · March 27, 2007

Sorry Bubble. I did read the entire thread. Did pay attention and get involved. I'm telling you that's how I interpreted it. I understand that you think that I'm being obtuse and straying from the subject matter. It just seemed to me that you were using medical providers rights to open a forum on feelings about related hot button issues. I'm defnitely not wanting to argue any more than you are.

By reading your response to TOM's comments, you seem to know the real answer to the question you pose in your thread. You're saying that it's a non-issue by stating that doctors and nurses and pharmacists do not have to do what a patient requests (or tells) them to do. So what's your point?

BJean · March 27, 2007

Am I the only person who spoke to the issue you brought up as it relates to abortion and the morning after pill? Of course the issue of circumcision is a fairly hot topic these days too, but people didn't jump in on that too much.

You're sounding very defensive and I wasn't attacking. Sometimes I think that the written word here gets us in trouble that we never meant to cause.

Bubble it's YOUR topic, you can declare that it is about whatever you wish. I was just relating about how it affected me. That is obviously not important to you, so I will bow out of your thread as gracefully as possible.

P.S. I did know that you were a medical provider. I also know that you say you would never have an abortion, and that you hate them, but if I remember correctly you believe in a woman's right to choose. I believe you have addressed the issue more than once on different threads. That could have had something to do with my thought that there was a current of underlying issues imbedded here, particularly since certain words were incorporated herein.

Tired_Old_Man · March 27, 2007

So it is only a coincidence that this problem only happens about abortion, morning after and birth control pills.

And it is just another coincidence that the state legislatures only pass laws to allow people "not to do their job" because it involves those same issues.

By the way, I had no law protecting me that said that if I didn't want to fix a plane by the book and something went wrong because my moral indignation kept me from following the book, that I would be protected. No, that only happens when the worker's rights to chose override a women's right to chose.

BJean · March 27, 2007

Thank you TOM

Bubble: I never said that you didn't post non-abortion scenarios. What I said was that the discussion is definitely about abortion and the morning after pill. You accuse me of changing your words. I didn't change your words or question your intentions to discuss medical providers' rights. I just observed that in addition to what you said you wanted to discuss that you had used some very hot button words to make your point and that if you use those words, you can't expect those issues not to come up in the discussion. When you reacted the way you did to my posts, it made me wonder why you used those words if the thread wasn't about them at all and if you didn't want to discuss them why didn't you use other words.

I'd like to know why you got so upset that I spoke about abortion and the morning after pill when you are the one who included them in your thread? Why are you so angry? Why are you so accusatory in your remarks to me?

I'm afraid your heated reaction only goes to prove what I was saying, that those words are very hot button issues and you shouldn't be surprised, or angry, if they generate some discussion in your thread.