Ever since my surgery I've not once experienced that trigger of madness that carbs use to cause before.Until yesterday.
Everything was fine until about 17:00 when I decided to have a slice of christmas fruitcake.One slice became 2 and I thought I was fine.But I couldnt stop eating after that.I want to list what I ate,so that I can remember how easy it is to just slip right back into old habits if not cautious!
We came back to the B&B at about 18:00 and that is when the binge started.Over the next 6 hours I had 3 rusks (about 40 carbs and 200 calories each) one of those round lindt chocolates,5 blocks of fruit and nut chocolate and then I decided I needed protein (not!) and ate about 5 thai pork riblets.
Now Im not sure if it the gin and tonic I had before the fruit cake that made me not think things through or if it was just the sugar that triggered me.The thing that bugs me so much is that until yesterday,I couldnt touch chocolate as the taste was just to revoltingly sweet.It would make me feel so aweful.But for some reason in combination with everything else It tasted wonderful and I could munch away at it just fine.
Not having access to a scale today is driving me absolutely crazy now and I am wondering how AM I GOING TO PRACTICE WHAT I ALWAYS PREACH.I can eat a breakfast of 1 egg and a sclice of bacon but as for the rest of the day,the whole family's going to spend all of this day on the beach and I have no idea what food there will be.I find myself eating fried foods and not grilled (by choice,bad choice) and I have had quite a couple of french fries already this holiday.
Maybe I should first find out where I can weigh.Then I should see if I can find any shop thats open (small town,everything seems to be closed on boxing day) to buy some deli meat (ham or turkey if they have) and then I should just stick to 3 meals and a few beef jerky sticks as snacks.
No one seems to understand that being so close to goal,I dont want to gain any weight now.It is not a matter of just losing it again.I have to try to get to a point where I dont gain with every special event in life.
Anyhoo,no use obsessing about this as a lot is out of my control at the moment.This is why I prefer hotel stays to Bed and breakfast stays it is just easier food wize.
Ok,now to tackle the issue of 1.no umbrella for the beach 2. ME NOT WANTING TO EXPOSE MY FLAPPING ARMS,BOOBS AND LEGS in front of all these people today.
Happy holidays everyone!
Well just had my last Christmas with out my future sleeve. I enjoyed it but looking forward to next year when I am much thinner and healthier. I loved the good food and eating as much as I wanted but now I feel terrible, bloated, no energy. It seems like I always have an issue, stomache, headache, knee pain, ankle pain and/or foot pain. I can't wait until I start feeling better. We have a trip planned over new years eve and then I am starting my pre preop diet which starts Jan, 8th.
I had a pretty good day, a little rough. I have had a cough/tickle in my throat since Friday from the tube being down my throat. I don't have surgery related pains but coughing HURTS as do these damn hiccups I have had since last Saturday. I have been go go go since I got home, trying to take advantage of feeling so good. Most people say they feel like ass and have no energy for at least a few weeks but I feel really good. Am not having many eating issues, just the constant being aware of how may grams of protein I have consumed and how many I have yet to get in. Seems like I will be doing okay but then I realize it has taken a half hour to get basically nowhere on a bottle of water.
Today I had a few moments of OH MY GOD I AM TIRED and some light headedness so I planted my ass and sat all day. My mom says I am doing too much. I ain't done **** but walk and shop and (drink) eat and watch TV.
I'm also learning that I have to get out of the habit of taking extra food because I'm afraid there won't be enough food wherever I am. I bought two bowls of chicken noodle soup to strain the noodles and veggies out of it. I just barely got down one serving of that. WHY IN HELL was I dragging around another bowl of soup, jello, some juice and some Crystal light? Like I can eat all of that??
Anyhoo, I'm home now and have taken meds and me and Jelly are SKRAIT CHILLIN.
Merry Christmas to everyone in Lap Band land. I went to my son's to see what Santa brought my grandsons. Santa was very nice to them. My son has a Texas BBQ/smoker, from Texas. He does catering, also. He was up all night smoking beef brisket. OMG!! it taste so good. I am going to my other son's for dinner and he is serving one of the briskets. Can't wait. The burnt ends are the best. Now that I am finally having the brisket, 3-4 oz. isn't too much food. I hope I can have a doggie bag.
I hope everyone gets to eat wonderful food with wonderful people/family today and always.
Enjoy the day.
"Eye Candy"/Arlene
Today is Christmas Day. I feel so blessed to have my family. This year I feel so blessed to have had my sleeve done. I am now 5 weeks out and feel great. I am almost at my Phase I goal. Hopefully I will be at 199 tomorrow or the next day. I never thought that I would get so excited to be at 199 but I am. I began soft foods this week and so far so good. No issues. It is hard for me to not drink with my meal but I am getting used to it. I had to go shopping for new jeans yesterday. My old ones were falling down. What a great problem to have. I feel so good in my new clothes. With every milestone it is going to get better and better. I am looking so forward to what 2013 has in store for me.
I Cooked a fab dinner for my Inlaws, hubby, one of our daughters and the light of my life her 18 month old daughter. Even though I am less than week post op from the tt and bj surgery I started early and rested in-between chores. Polishing the silver was more strenuous than I expected but I didn't push it and was fine. I did have someone clean this week so didn't have to worry about that... But the shopping and cooking was all me. We had rib eye steak w bernaise sauce, sauteed caramelized onions and mushrooms, twice baked potatoes, Lima beans, green beans, carrots, my speciality spinach salad, rolls and apple pie, vanilla pudding pie laced with chocolate and homemade cookies.
Since I am maintaining and healing from surgery I decided I would really enjoy a few more bites then normal since I cooked all my favs...well except the Lima beans...bleckkkkk. So the eating commenced and I ate about 2 oz of meat, a teaspoon of the mushrooms and onions, a few green beans, 1 carrot, and about a 1/4 c of salad. I also had about 1/4 of the potato and one cookie.... I was amazed... I seriously couldnt eat any more...
I love my band. I will never gain the weight back... Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night....
HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE, MAY THE LOVE OF GOD BE IN YOUR HOME This Christmas AS WE CELEBRATE THE BIRTHDAY OF OUR SAVIOUR JESUS AGAIN THIS YEAR, LOVE, JOY, PEACE AND MUCH HAPPINESS TO ALL.
Looking forward to my christmas dinner at my eldests sons house tomorrow, going to enjoy my dinner and try not to eat too much
I have been told that i have to see a heamatologist about the lupus before i can have my operation.
I have been assured that i am at the top of the list and as soon as the specialist as seen me and given me treatment he will talk to my surgeon and decide if and when i can have my op, should see the sdpecialist in jan, so i may be a feb sleever, i live in hope. xxx
Hello everyone my name is Melanie and I just found out today 12/24/12 I got approved for my wls for an inpatient 1 night stay. I'm going for the sleeve gastrectomy. This has been quite a journey trying to get all my information together and doing everything my insurance companty required me to to in order to qualify for wls. So now I can't wait for my dr.'s consult and to continue on my weight loss journey. I do know I will have to do a two week liquid fast before surgery....ohhh so not looking forward to that, but I will do it successfully.
Now in the mean time I have beeng going to the gym for over a month now 4 - 5 days a week at least an hour each time I go. I have lost 10 lbs in the past month. I was at 299. But because I don't eat the right foods all the time, Im kinda basically sabotagging my workouts. So I know with this surgery I will not eat nearly as much as I do now and my weight will be coming off alot faster. Because frankly I feel really good after my workouts so that keeps me motivated to go everyday. And want to thank my friend for pushing to go to the gym, she had been going for quite sometime and was always suggesting I should go with her. Well needless to say I was never on top of that, I always had an excuse why I wouldn't go.
And I'm really inspired by some of the other stories I've been reading in this forum. So glad I found this site!
Happy Monday everyone.
I always use Splenda in my hot and iced tea. I was watching Dr. Oz and he and a dietitian said to use Stevia. Does anyone know any thing about this? They said that sweeteners make you pee more than you should. I know I pee a lot but then I drink about 10-8oz. teas or water a day.
Thanks for the help. Enjoy your Santa day tomorrow.
I wish you all a very Merry and Blessed Christmas and may 2013 bring great success to us all in our life long weight loss and getting healthy.
Thank you for your support and encouragement
I went to the flea market with my grandmother today. I would say I walked well over a mile, maybe even two. And then we had to go shopping. Sleep made me feel so much better, but by the time we were done, my stomach was on fire.
I took some pain medicine and slept again from about 4pm to 2am. My stomach still hurts a lot and I kind of regret walking so much being a week post-op.
At least tomorrow I get to start full liquids! Yaahoooo! On Christmas day too. So tired of clear stuff.
So my dietitian recommended that I create a reverse bucket list and today I thought of one. As I was driving over the mountains on my way to my parents house I saw people skiing and I was thinking I would love to learn to do that. I would also like to start cross country skiing which I have always wanted to do but can't because of my weight. To some it might be a little weird for someone my size that loves hiking, walking, and working out but I do. I think that one of the things that I do when I have the surgery and become smaller would be to ski. That would be a great winter vacation for myself!
I am sure that over time this list will be long but just today skiing is at the top of the list
With the holidays and a busy time at work I have not been up on my blog as I should so here's to catching up the past two weeks.
I made it back home after traveling to see the grandbaby and with the bad food and poor food choices, I saw some weight gain but I have recovered nicely. I hit the 170's this week and I could not be happier...I think I said the same thing when I hit 199 but for real for real I am so happy. I think I am inching upon a weight I seen in 2002 when I thought I wanted to join the National Guard. I think I was 172lbs then. I still have more belly and back fat than I can appreciate so I am hoping 18 of those pounds come from those areas and 3 come from my legs and the rest from my arms...lol...I been talking to each body part telling them what I need to see from this over the next couple of months...lol...I hope to be at goal sometimes at the end of Februrary first part of March. I have already bought me a swimsuit for the occassion. It is actually a bikini but in truth I probably would be more like to wear a monokini..A friend of mine has a vacation rental in Winter Haven, just outside of Orlando and it has an open week in February so it would be nice to go down and hang out at the beach. I also have a trip planned to Myrtle Beach SC in July when I should most definitey be at goal and ready to take all kinds of pics.
So back to what my past fews weeks have been like....Resisting the temptation to graze all the holiday treats has been more than a challenge. Thank goodness I have an entire year for these days to come back around again because it has been absolute torture. My carb intake has been crazy...yet my sleeve has worked overtime and still posted a loss. I had a few days where I went up but it leveled out and the scale has been going down consistently for the past week. I had a year end goal of 174lbs and it definitely will be a challenge hitting my goal but I even still I could not be happier that I am even this close to goal...Fingers crossed....
Another positive thing is I think my hair loss is slowing up. However, it is so thin now that I do not wear my own natural hair without wearing a wig piece. My head is already big and so the thin hair dont do it no favors. See pic below. My head looks so big...But I dont go out in public like that...Folk might think I was sick or something...losing weight and hair...lol...
One of the big pieces of news is I met a new guy friend. He is so different then any guy I would have ever dated as he had dreads and facial hair and I usually go for the bald and maybe nice goatee guy...He is light skin and I go for the dark chocolate and he is my age and I have always dated older. But he for whatever reason caught my attention and had held it everyday since we met last Friday. We have hung out everyday and I have not felt so "teenager" giddy in such a long time. I was in a 12 year relationship up until about 6 months ago and I thought I could never see past my ex...I would see other attractive guys but I never had the desire to pursue them or allowed myself to be pursued because I was so caught up in my ex and "saving" our bad relationship. Until now....So I am not sure if I am happier I met a guy that I am having fun with or that I actually am open to to seeing other guys. It feel so good just to know I am moving or have moved past my ex. He was not a good mate to me and so I wanted him out of my system for so long and just didnt know how to shake him...Somewhere along the line I did figure out how to shake him and did not even realize it...I think it has a lot to do with gaining my self-confidence and finding my inner worth that has come with the weight loss...Did I say I love my sleeve? Well I do...I has given me so much more then weight loss. The sleeve is not a fix all but it sure does bring some things to the surface for you to deal with and I am so happy things around me are working themselves out so nicely. I am in such a happy place. I have no expectation of my new guy interests beyond him treating me with respect so if it works out we are just friends I am cool with that too because the starting of that friendship for me seal the deal that the bad relationship was no more.
Happy Holidays to everyone...
HW 232 & SW 227 (VSG 08/17/12 & 5'8)
Week 16 182.0
Week 17 179.0
CW 177.6
[Total Weight Loss 54.4lbs]
GW 155 [22.4lbs until Goal]
i am SO HAPPY! i am now down 42 pounds. including pre op diet started october 27th. i go to the gym everyday. never skip a beat i love my sleeve. im so happy and grateful. i even had to buy new gym clothes because my others were fallin off! ahhhhhh i do NOT get 60 grams of protein a day but i TRY my best. and i switch up protein shakes just to avoid nausea and feeling sick! im sooooooooo excited. and wanted to share my joy
including another before taken at my job's 80th anniversary party.
Last night was for sure the best night of my life. Last year I went to an event with my husband. I felt beautiful but yet uncomfortable the whole time. I had on a pretty dress, nice make up, a pretty smile, and my handsome husband right next to me. But yet I felt like I didn't quiet blend. This year was a different story. I walked in and own my space !!!
I was so happy to be in a room FULL of food but yet my attention was not on that( Nothing taste as good as skinny honey!). We spoke to other people and flirted with each other like little kids :wub: Needless to say I fell in love with the man again!
I felt proud of myself. When I asked my husband to take me to the dance floor, his facial expression was priceless!! Before I would have bite his head off for even suggesting it. But last night I ASKED! he loved it! we danced songs, after songs until my toes begged for mercy lol!!
I am grateful to God for allowing me to see this day. I went from a size 28 to a 16 and that is the best XMAS present ever...
1st picture: Picture of last year VS this year with my hubby
2nd picture: Me, Last year VS this year
Finally slept a full 8 hrs without any Vicodin!!! That was a feat in itself. But then I looked in the mirror and saw more bruises then I imagine are on those NFL players after a game.... OMG... I look like I have been roughed up pretty well. On Friday the dr warned me they would start appearing...well he was right...
Yesterday I bought a Spanx like garment which is high waisted. The dr said it would help with the torso swelling. Well it helped alright... The swelling is down but the bruising has surfaced...LOL
And I am exercising the girls..... So much to learn. Evidentially for the rest of my life every day I am supposed to do massage exercises to keep them soft and supple.... This cracks me up. But I am doing it... only takes a minute in the morning and night but for the next few weeks I have to add in an extra massage at lunchtime.
I had my surgery on Friday and besides them finding a Hernia,went well.
I thought I would be so much more sore than this..the gas pain is no fun but can deal with it.
At what point will I start to feel "normal" again?
I could just about say "ditto" to everything everyone else has written about their reasons and that would be my story. Here are my details:
40yrs old
Registered Nurse in Northern Virginia
266 was highest weight
262 at start of pre surgery diet
250 day of surgery 12/17/12
Surgeon: Dr. Salameh at Virginia Hospital Center
Surgeon/Hospital Choice: I changed both about 3 months prior to surgery because I started working at VHC and was very comfortable with their Bariatric Center of Excellence and processes. It was hard to imagine having surgery and being vulnerable to people I work with in that sense but I did a lot of research and talked to almost everyone who would be caring for me and that made all the difference. A surgery nurse told me, "surgical nurses tell no tales." This comment was huge for me - and made me so much more sure I made the right choice.
Pre-op Insurance Issues: I changed jobs and insurance during my journey which was a challenge. My insurance initially denied me because although I had over 8 months of a medically supervised diet - they claimed not enough of an exercise component was included. Having been a clinical case manager myself, I know that this is just a ploy and delaying tactic used by insurance companies. So I had my surgeon do a peer-to-peer review with the medical director of my insurance (Care First Blue Cross PPO). They compromised and insurance said they would approve if I did physical therapy (I have multiple sclerosis as well so this was one of my surgeons selling points). The physical therapy (although annoying and another month delay) was the best thing that could have happened to me. I met with the physical therapist who treats bariatric patients and it was amazing. He set me up with an exercise plan - and more importantly, made me feel good about myself and the journey I am taking. He even visited me post-op and gave me another pep talk. Had I known how helpful his was I would have paid out of pocket for it. I cannot wait to follow up with him in the new year (he's also really nice to look at - I'm not gonna lie)!
Surgery 12/17/12 - all went well. I had a significant haitial hernia which needed repair. Post op I had a lot of pain - that was a surprise. I thought I would be getting a PCA (Patient Controlled Analgesics) and did mention in my pre-op surgery appt. that I don't do well with morphine. However post op they ordered IV morphine which didn't tough my pain. Ended up getting switched to dilaudid which I got pretty much every 2-3 hours but I would have probably done better if I could have controlled it myself. Discharge was sort of a mess. My nurse was getting an admission so she did my discharge before I was ready to go. We left all of the post op instructions in the room - luckily I am a nurse and knew what to do. I only had a few hours (maybe 2) on clears before I was discharged and only one dose of oral pain meds. Looking back - this clearly was not enough. I also could not take a deep breath - couldn't get the incentive spirometer (IS) to move at all. I probably needed another night in the hospital.
First day home - was HORRIBLE! I had a terrible headache, could not get fluids in without severe pain, was taking pain meds more frequently than prescribed just to be able to breathe. Each breath hurt and stomach spasms on liquids really hurt. I was dehydrated and still could not make the IS move at all. Worse was I couldn't get to the phone in time to get the post-op call from the hospital so was unable to get my post-op instructions e-mailed to me (gonna suggest they ask for preferred phone number at discharge). A nurse friend came over and listened to my chest and was concerned that my breath sounds were extremely diminished on my left side as well as in both bases, She suggested the ER if it didn't improve. I also had a low grade fever:100.8. My second day was much better. I went to the mall for 4 hours and walked and also worked hard on the deep breathing. I coughed up a bunch of blackish/brownish crud and that helped as well. Fever down and no ER visit needed.
Day 6 - things are going well. I still hurt but am down to just about 2 doses of pain meds a day. Im getting more fluids down and about 1/3 of a protein shake for breakfast and some cream of chicken soup for dinner. I've tried a few bites of pudding but got a little nauseous - so that is going to have to wait.
Overall I'm extremely happy. I stopped all of my meds (except my MS disease modifying injections), and that has been pretty good. I'm very optimistic about the process. I forgot to mention the most important thing - I have an incredible boyfriend (of 15 years) who has been amazing through it all. He has cared for me and loved me unconditionally through the years, through MS, and through weightless surgery. Having this kind of support has ben the best and most important medicine.
I've lost 20 lbs since my week prior to surgery diet. Im not gonna lie and say the pounds don't count - they do so very very very much - but the way I feel right now cannot be measured in pounds. I'm trying to keep that in mind when I have what I know will be a battle with the scale in the weeks to come.
Cheers to you all!
I'm 6 days out from surgery and I think it is time to list my goals. I've been thinking of theses a lot since I decided to take this plunge about a year ago. Some goals are weight based (of course), but some are not. I have tried to come up with goals that are achievable and motivating at the same time. I'm ok with adjusting goals if things don't happen the way I am expecting. Also - added in some fun goals that I have no control over just for fun. I know myself and know I need a lot of little things to keep me going (especially during days when the scale doesn't move). So, here goes:
Weight Goals:
1. Optimize weight loss in the first 3 months (this means following diet strictly - high protein low carb)
2. 10% BMI loss every 6 months (this will get me to goal 22 BMI by one year)
Other Goals:
Survive the first week!
Fit into NORMAL sized clothes!!
Not having to move the steering wheel up when I get in boyfriends car
10 minutes on the elliptical machine
Need to buy new bras
Enjoy looking in mirrors again
Can wear high boots
Someone who doesn't know about the surgery comments on my weight loss
The day I can tuck something in
The first week I exercise (on purpose for 30min x3 days)
The first week I do the same as above but for 5 days
I'll probably add more as I think of them. I'm actually thinking about making a weekly eating or exercise goal - but not there yet.
I had my surgery on 11/26 and I am doing well. I set some early goals and my first goal was to get to 199 pounds. I have not been below 200 since I was around 38 years old and that was 20 years ago. I am currently at 202.5 and if all goes well will be at that phase 1 goal this week. What a Christmas present . I went back to work last week and it went pretty well. I am definitely more tired easily. Have to work on building my stamina. One day I did not get enough protein and I was doing a lot of walking and I really felt like I was going to pass out. I have to concentrate more on myself and timing. Overall, I am so proud of myself. I feel like I have a new lease on life. This has definitely been a to me from me Christmas gift this year. Merry Christmas!
Just when I didn't think my energy levels could get any lower, today was a true test.
I had to stay up all night finishing a paper, and I was going to go to sleep sometime around 11AM. However, my mom and extended family wanted to drag me out shopping. I was in such a foul mood my mom told me to stay home, and I almost did, but then she felt bad and made me go.
Needless to say, walking around with no sleep, protein, sugars, carbs in my body made me feel so physically and mentally exhausted I wanted to cry. The mall was crowded and I couldn't stand all the people around. (Normally I'm such a social person and don't mind at all). But today, everything was pushing my buttons.
We also went to Costco. MAN, THAT WAS SO DIFFICULT. If any of you know about Costco, Sam's or BJ's, they offer free samples of their food products. Well, almost every isle had something. Cheesecake, crackers, spreads, mozzarella sticks, pizza, cookies, candy. I wanted to scream right in the middle of the store. But I didn't have a single bite of anything and I felt at least a little proud of myself. I think I caught this one guy staring at me as I was eyeballing my grandmother so hard for eating a lovely piece of candy. I felt like he was thinking "Why isn't this fat girl eating all of the samples?" But oh well.
LIQUIDS ARE KILLING ME.
I picked up some light muscle milk (said not made with milk) and some lactaid milk as well in case I am lactose intolerant. I also have to buy lactaid pills, just in case. However, I hope I can definitely stand milk.
I kind of had a NSV today. When I was at the mall I was looking for a holiday outfit. I still bought a dress in a 22, but I probably could've got it in a 20. However, I did try on this lace party dress in a 20, and holy cow, IT FIT! I haven't tried on jeans because they're uncomfortable, but maybe 16 pound weightloss did help me get down to a 20. It's been since high school that I've been in a 20. I've been a 22 for the last 4 years. When I reach a 14, I feel like the world's fashion doors will open to me.
Oh, when I came home, I slept for 10 hours o.O
Can't say I didn't need it!
xx
I have a best friend.
We met in 5th grade & are now 25.
We are a match made in best friend heaven, perfectly weird complimenting personalities.
Since High School we have been on the journey (among others) of being fat together. We would eat constantly, joke about how fat we are. It was our thing, eating was our best social time, nothing is better than mindlessly stuffing your face while having great conversation. When we weren't eating we'd joke about how fat we were & that "tomorrow we'll get skinny" as we stuff another cheeseburger in our mouth. Sure we had our brief periods of "getting skinny", they never lasted. We'd get bored, so we'd eat. We'd get sad, so we'd eat. We'd get drunk, so we'd eat. We'd be social, so we'd eat. Everything in our life came back to food.
In September of this year I came to her with the idea of WLS & doing it together. We talked about how AMAZING it'd be to be skinny, but how scary it was, & what a huge life change.
The subject was dropped. December rolled around & it was brought up again. Maybe we could do it, a mutual friend had VSG 8 months prior & is already down 100 pounds! WE could lose a 100 pounds, if we just make the sacrifice. It was decided, WLS was what we needed, both individually & together.
In 2013 I will undergo the biggest change of my entire life & be lucky enough to do it WITH my best friend. I can't wait to actually see us skinny.
(If you'd like to look her up it's JPSnAZ, she a hoot)
I’ve used my Xbox for exercise games too and it can be pretty motivating, especially on days when I don’t want to leave the house. Kinect games really do make you move, and after a session with kickboxing or dancing, I always feel like I’ve actually gotten a solid workout.
The controller-free setup feels way more natural for workouts than anything I tried on the Wii. Zumba is fun but definitely takes a little time to get the moves right.
Lately, when I’m not working out, I spend time trading CS2 skins and finding new guides on this link. There’s a lot of interesting tips if you’re into games outside of fitness too.
I'm literally almost crying reading this. Mostly because I'mon this pre-op diet and these last two days have been difficult... but also because I needed this! Thank you! Congrats! And a BIG congrats on quitting smoking a second time! It was hard enough to do it once... So - when I say BIG congrats... I mean BIIIIIG congrats! ❤️
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