Does anyone feel angrier or more 'indignant' post surgery?

[itstimealready 180]

I'm about 3 1/2 months post surgery and I have noticed that I wake up feeling kind of angry and put out at inconveniences and I was never like that before. Well, I was probably so drugged with food and carbs that I didn't notice it.

I've been taking Probiotics since surgery which I thought would help but this negative attitude is interfering with work relationships not being as happy go lucky as I was.

i've read lots of articles that changing the biology of your gut changes your mood and that kind of thing and I was just wondering if anyone else had noticed that since surgery and if so what might be a good cure other than yogurt and Probiotics.< /p>

According to this article, among many others taking probiotics seems to be a good idea for mood, maybe I just need more.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/06/gut-bacteria-on-the-brain/395918/?utm_source=SFFB

Edited January 31, 2016 by itstimealready

[4MRB4PHOTO 3,899]

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY THIS POST!!!!!!!!

(Thank you for the post and link to the article. It was very interesting as was the one related to Autism).

[Bufflehead 6,358]

You are also likely experiencing a lot of hormones being flooded into your system. Your fat cells store hormones, and when they open up to release that fat, they release the hormones, too. This leads to mood swings, rage, irritability, etc. etc. A common piece of advice for post-wls people is not to make any major decisions for 6 months post-op (divorce, quitting your job, and so on).

[Xena7158 26]

Well, i`m not sure if this is the same thing or not ... but the last time I was on a weight loss journey (and ended up losing over 100 lbs), I remember feeling like that. But I know what it was from ... I started to see people (friends and relationships) for what they were, and it made me more cynical and angry.

Men I had been friends with or known for years, now that I was thinner, were suddenly interested in more ... this annoyed me.

Women I was friends with, trying to sabotage my weight loss successes - here, I made you some Cookies, you`re too thin, you should stop losing weight, oh you`re unhealthy, etc (when I still had 50 lbs to go ...) - this annoyed me.

Then I noticed how much nicer people were, or how much more attentive people were to my new thinner self - this annoyed me.

Basically, I attributed it to no longer being blind to the reality that "looks do matter" to some people - and it forced me to re-evaluate all my relationships and my own vanity issues.

It doesn't help that while we lose, there's raging hormones being let loose, and head hunger, and other addictions vying for our attention in our brains!

[Inner Surfer Girl 12,015]

I agree, it's probably a mix of fluctuating hormones, and the loss of food as a mood stabilizer. Also, make sure you are staying hydrated. Especially since you mention waking up angry, some of this might be due to dehydration.

[LEILE 66]

I threw my macbook the other day. Irritable--to the extreme. It just comes out of nowhere. Rage. I am hoping it passes. I am only 3+ weeks out.

Leilie

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

I know most people get "crankier" when low carbing. I feel like my mind is clearer low carbing, so I notice more things. It is the poor mans NZT.

[Amelie2016 116]

You are also likely experiencing a lot of hormones being flooded into your system. Your fat cells store hormones, and when they open up to release that fat, they release the hormones, too. This leads to mood swings, rage, irritability, etc. etc. A common piece of advice for post-wls people is not to make any major decisions for 6 months post-op (divorce, quitting your job, and so on).

Wow I didn't consider this, my OBGYN said I stored estrogen in mt fat cells. I would think stored up toxins are being released as well? I just read that toxins like to live in fat cells.

Very, very interesting!

Edited January 31, 2016 by Amelie2016

[VSGAnn2014 12,992]

Yes, flora in the gut can be powerful things.

I am quite sure that over-the-counter Probiotics are not designed to regulate moods, but to improve digestion and reduce Constipation.

[Amelie2016 116]

how long before we can eat authentic fermented foods ? ie sauerkraut, real pickles, kimchi ?

[Valentina 2,642]

I find that I don't have the patience that I did before my surgery. I think I have become so focused on my journey and getting back on track, that I think of little else.

"Not my circus. Not my clowns"?

I am expecting myself to settle down and be able to take time for "outside the family" people, but for right now---I'm all about me.

PS: I consider you all "family", so yes, I do care about you---seriously care.

[Dub 9,922]

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY THIS POST!!!!!!!!

(Thank you for the post and link to the article. It was very interesting as was the one related to Autism).

LOL. When I first read it I was simply not connecting the dots, either.

But......I have accepted there are all sorts of strange things at play during this time frame for many of us.

One thing that I've been hugely frustrated with is that I've had the critical eye on myself for so long that it now tends to focus on conditions around me or even worse, other people.

For example......I've been making progress on myself and perhaps eased up a bit. Now I looked around and see the state of my garage and it pisses me off. HTF did it get so disorganized ? Who is the idiot who hasn't been putting stuff away properly ? Who is the fool with fat-man clothes still hanging in his closet and needs to be gone through? Why is that aggravating tree limb hanging down over the deck ?

Well, that is the result of being not focused on stuff around me like I needed to....and not having the energy to address it due to back problems and recovering from the sleeve/hernia surgery while working 60 hrs / week. Stuff just gets a low priority or neglected altogether.

I look around further still and see things that my wife doesn't do an it gets to me. I get aggravated. I accepted blame for it for a while due to me simply not being myself this last year or so and all things subpar are on me. Eventually, though, I shared my marital concerns with her. Not well received at first but I was respectful yet honest with what was said. Time will tell how things turn out. Time will tell. It will either work out.....or it will not. I will continue to give it my best shot, but I will not blindly hope for a miracle as I've done in the past.

You are also likely experiencing a lot of hormones being flooded into your system. Your fat cells store hormones, and when they open up to release that fat, they release the hormones, too. This leads to mood swings, rage, irritability, etc. etc. A common piece of advice for post-wls people is not to make any major decisions for 6 months post-op (divorce, quitting your job, and so on).

This seems like legit advice now that I've gone a few months down this road. I better understand the wisdom of this practice.

Its a time to simply work on yourself and DO NOT make any changes.

Divorce and career change have been tugging on me......tempting me more than I ever suspected. Married 23 years, same employer for 20......yet now I find myself open to big changes. Scary. Not acting immediately on either.....letting these ideas simmer.

I threw my macbook the other day. Irritable--to the extreme. It just comes out of nowhere. Rage. I am hoping it passes. I am only 3+ weeks out.

Leilie

Nooooooooo !!!!!!

No matter how mad I get......my MacBook will never become a projectile. Neva......eva....

Maybe we should all be prescribed medical weed or some such. Sure would up the attendance in the post-op support group meetings. "Okay now, everyone get their chairs in a circle.....puff, puff, pass........let's begin our meeting with recognizing new members after our opening blaze....."

I find that I don't have the patience that I did before my surgery. I think I have become so focused on my journey and getting back on track, that I think of little else.

"Not my circus. Not my clowns"?

I am expecting myself to settle down and be able to take time for "outside the family" people, but for right now---I'm all about me.

PS: I consider you all "family", so yes, I do care about you---seriously care.

I really get that "Not my circus, not my clowns" statement. Well said.

My patience as it pertains to myself is very, very limited. I want immediate progress in all areas of self. Unrealistic as hell and a source of frustration. Thus far, my patience for others is somewhat "normal" dare I use such a phrase.

How's this for a oddball fantasy.......we all get to go live in a resort area for our surgery throughout our first year.....surrounded by other patients going through the exact same thing......no outside distractions....no worries.....just focused on the losing and getting our issues nailed down tight. Lol, right? Well, in reality we do have BP and the fine folks here. I agree fully with your statement that we are all family in a way.

[Valentina 2,642]

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY THIS POST!!!!!!!!

(Thank you for the post and link to the article. It was very interesting as was the one related to Autism).

LOL. When I first read it I was simply not connecting the dots, either.

But......I have accepted there are all sorts of strange things at play during this time frame for many of us.

One thing that I've been hugely frustrated with is that I've had the critical eye on myself for so long that it now tends to focus on conditions around me or even worse, other people.

For example......I've been making progress on myself and perhaps eased up a bit. Now I looked around and see the state of my garage and it pisses me off. HTF did it get so disorganized ? Who is the idiot who hasn't been putting stuff away properly ? Who is the fool with fat-man clothes still hanging in his closet and needs to be gone through? Why is that aggravating tree limb hanging down over the deck ?

Well, that is the result of being not focused on stuff around me like I needed to....and not having the energy to address it due to back problems and recovering from the sleeve/hernia surgery while working 60 hrs / week. Stuff just gets a low priority or neglected altogether.

I look around further still and see things that my wife doesn't do an it gets to me. I get aggravated. I accepted blame for it for a while due to me simply not being myself this last year or so and all things subpar are on me. Eventually, though, I shared my marital concerns with her. Not well received at first but I was respectful yet honest with what was said. Time will tell how things turn out. Time will tell. It will either work out.....or it will not. I will continue to give it my best shot, but I will not blindly hope for a miracle as I've done in the past.

>You are also likely experiencing a lot of hormones being flooded into your system. Your fat cells store hormones, and when they open up to release that fat, they release the hormones, too. This leads to mood swings, rage, irritability, etc. etc. A common piece of advice for post-wls people is not to make any major decisions for 6 months post-op (divorce, quitting your job, and so on).

This seems like legit advice now that I've gone a few months down this road. I better understand the wisdom of this practice.

Its a time to simply work on yourself and DO NOT make any changes.

Divorce and career change have been tugging on me......tempting me more than I ever suspected. Married 23 years, same employer for 20......yet now I find myself open to big changes. Scary. Not acting immediately on either.....letting these ideas simmer.

I threw my macbook the other day. Irritable--to the extreme. It just comes out of nowhere. Rage. I am hoping it passes. I am only 3+ weeks out.

Leilie

Nooooooooo !!!!!!

No matter how mad I get......my MacBook will never become a projectile. Neva......eva....

Maybe we should all be prescribed medical weed or some such. Sure would up the attendance in the post-op support group meetings. "Okay now, everyone get their chairs in a circle.....puff, puff, pass........let's begin our meeting with recognizing new members after our opening blaze....."

I find that I don't have the patience that I did before my surgery. I think I have become so focused on my journey and getting back on track, that I think of little else.

"Not my circus. Not my clowns"?

I am expecting myself to settle down and be able to take time for "outside the family" people, but for right now---I'm all about me.

PS: I consider you all "family", so yes, I do care about you---seriously care.

I really get that "Not my circus, not my clowns" statement. Well said.

My patience as it pertains to myself is very, very limited. I want immediate progress in all areas of self. Unrealistic as hell and a source of frustration. Thus far, my patience for others is somewhat "normal" dare I use such a phrase.

How's this for a oddball fantasy.......we all get to go live in a resort area for our surgery throughout our first year.....surrounded by other patients going through the exact same thing......no outside distractions....no worries.....just focused on the losing and getting our issues nailed down tight. Lol, right? Well, in reality we do have BP and the fine folks here. I agree fully with your statement that we are all family in a way.

Here's the plan:

We all go live on a deserted island after our WLS where we all can communicate and commiserate without any 'outside" distractions.

My concern is that once we open our circle group meeting by toking a wee weed and someone shares the amount of calories that are burned having enthusiastic sex, we'll all wind up in a very skinny and naked pile!

Come to think of it---maybe it's not such a bad idea...

[chochlte1 8]

That is very interesting that it's affecting you this way. I am the polar opposite and only 1 week post op. I find that I have a overwhelming calmness about things and can see things alot more clearly than before. Heck, before surgery my emotions were everywhere and fits of rage were common.

[itstimealready 180]

I think I'm going to try to go for more walks outside and get massages and do things that make me feel good. Maybe even watching funny shows might help take the cranky edge off. I have had such a resentful attitude when I should be so happy with my new life. I feel guilty about being so nasty to people - they probably don't know though.

Actually I'd forgotten some advice my Mom always says when I'm feeling unhappy - go HELP someone. Do something nice for someone... That might make me feel better too.