Hello I'm TheWatcher You may remember me from such memorable threads like Are we ready for a Black President and others.

I was recently messaged by someone; and this individual asked me a question that i has been thinking about since Barack started his run for the White House. Barack Obama has energized and motivated the Black Community of American like no one has since the Civil Rights movement and Some in the Black Community and still apathetic, Pessimistic if you will and dont believe whats happening. I may share my responce that i gave later... but for now i Pose this question.

What would happen toin America If Barack Obama was to fall to a Assasins Bullet?

It may be a frightening notion but it already has legs a Assasination attempt was foiled before the DNC acceptance speech. So please Share your views, fears, or anything that this topic beings up to your mind that you would like to discuss. If the questions are there, this is as good of a place as any other to get them answered.

Edited October 17, 200817 yr by TheWatcher

I think that assassination attempts might be likely. Palin and McCain are stirring up the crazies in their campaign by implying that Obama has terrorist/Islam ties or that he is in some way unAmerican. It is disgusting.

By the way, Watcher, you are right: you sure cannot spell. But you sure do launch some very interesting threads. Thank you, sez Green.

By the way, Watcher, you are right: you sure cannot spell. But you sure do launch some very interesting threads. Thank you, sez Green.

wow had to just put me on blast like that huh??

I have noticed that some people don't believe that there will be another attempt on obama

Im curious what your perspective is that brings you to that conclusion

wow had to just put me on blast like that huh??

Yep, I can be annoying. lol

I have noticed that some people don't believe that there will be another attempt on obama

Im curious what your perspective is that brings you to that conclusion

Sadly, there has been a tradition of assassinations and assassination attempts of public and controversial figures in your country. There is also a vivid tradition of racism in certain parts of the States. There are many folks who are foolish enough to believe that the colour of Obama's skin and the fact that his middle name is Hussein are defining factors of his "wrongness" as a presidential candidate. The colour of his skin and his middle name are not accomplishments but simply part of what the man came equipped with at birth.

What any individual should be judged on is his own accomplishments and Obama's, and those of his wife, are impressive. Nevertheless, there are nutbars who are present at the McCain/Palin rallies who yell out truly odious idiocies about Obama; they call this man a "traitor." This level of hatred, one which would deny the basic facts of Obama's life, does not bode well, in my opinion. In my opinion, Obama is being held to a different, and higher standard than that applied to Palin and McCain. This difference arises from racism, I think. It is unlikely that these crazies will go away once Obama becomes President. He will need to have excellent security in place.

The colour of his skin and his middle name are not accomplishments but simply part of what the man came equipped with at birth.

Well said. We need to judge by his philosophies as evidenced by his actions, not his name or his color.

Nevertheless, there are nutbars who are present at the McCain/Palin rallies who yell out truly odious idiocies about Obama; they call this man a "traitor." This level of hatred, one which would deny the basic facts of Obama's life, does not bode well, in my opinion. In my opinion, Obama is being held to a different, and higher standard than that applied to Palin and McCain. This difference arises from racism, I think.

I don't think calling him "traitor" has anything to do with racism. I think it has more to do with his known associations with terrorists and radicals.

Well said. We need to judge by his philosophies as evidenced by his actions, not his name or his color.

I don't think calling him "traitor" has anything to do with racism. I think it has more to do with his known associations with terrorists and radicals.

wow.. you have just embraced all the right wing lies haven't you... and lets think if they could get away with being openly racist them i bet all i have they would... traitor, anti American that is all they can say without going too far... you can sit and lie to yourself and be as ignorant and blissful as you want but this election left simple politics long ago....

I don't think calling him "traitor" has anything to do with racism. I think it has more to do with his known associations with terrorists and radicals.

The "terrorist" was William Ayres... Yes, he did acts of terrorism, as did many during the vietnam era. A sad but true fact. He is now a distuingished professor. Another true fact. His association goes as far as being on a board of directors with him. (As I have sat on several boards - often times with people who I have no outside association with). I sware, I wish people would quite acting as though Obama were sitting next to him making bombs... geez

The "Radical' was Rev. Jeremiah Wright. And he is so radical that he, while preaching God, actually expects that America would look at what it does instead of expecting that God will bless us just because we're americans. How radical is that. I may not like the way that Rev. Wright says things, but if you really think about it, he makes some great points. (If a white, middle class man in Texas who is proud to be in America, and proud to have served his country in the US Navy, even if it was in the peace time can agree with such radicalism).

And just so we can be clear, if you go to a United Methodist church, a Lutheran church, a Disciples of Christ church, an Episcopal church, or the Catholic church in the United States, then your pastor is probably a radical, since in seminary, the most likely studied the works of James Cone, the Liberation Theologian that had such an influence on Jeremiah Wright. As a professor at Union Theological Seminary (A United Methodist seminary), his books are widely studied. After all, it is a well accepted theolgoical approach.

wow.. you have just embraced all the right wing lies haven't you

Wow. You refuse to believe anything except left-wing propaganda and poor explanations for the truth, don't you?

and lets think if they could get away with being openly racist them i bet all i have they would... traitor, anti American that is all they can say without going too far... you can sit and lie to yourself and be as ignorant and blissful as you want but this election left simple politics long ago....

Ridiculous. Just because someone doesn't like Obama doesn't make them a racist.

The "terrorist" was William Ayres... Yes, he did acts of terrorism, as did many during the vietnam era. A sad but true fact. He is now a distuingished professor. Another true fact. His association goes as far as being on a board of directors with him. (As I have sat on several boards - often times with people who I have no outside association with). I sware, I wish people would quite acting as though Obama were sitting next to him making bombs... geez

He was more than someone he just sat on a board with. And Ayres said, on 9/11/01, that he wished as a terrorist that he had gone further. Ayres isn't the only one either. I don't have time right now to go into it but I will try to pop back in later and give some more details.

Look, people have reasonable questions about Obama's multiple associations with people of questionable affiliation. Just because he's black doesn't mean we should overlook these associations. And just because people question him doesn't mean they're racist.

One more thing -- last night I was listing to someone (can't remember who) who said something along the lines of: if McCain launched his national political career from the home of someone who had bombed an abortion clinic -- but it was 30 years ago -- what do you think would happen to his chances at the Presidency?

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:tt1: I am a little confused. I thought this was a Lap Band Surgery and Lap Band Discussion Forum? I always look forward to reading the "New Post's" on this forum. I like to hear the progress we have all made on our way to a new and healthier life. I like to hear new ideas on recipes or foods that we can try. Surely there is another FORUM to discuss Politics? I am just as concerned as the next person is on regards to "Who will our next President be". But right or wrong, just MY opinion, This Lap Band Forum is not the place.

I hope everyone just banded or getting banded this week do well and have a speedy recovery.

Lone Star Loser :tongue_smilie:

or you can just not look at the topics with subjects you don't like there are plenty of places on this forum for you to get what you came here fore. some like to discuss other things as well... in short... We dot care.

many of us post regularly in post that are not political based... but here we are discussing things that also have merit in our lives.

As has been pointed out, William Ayres was a radical when he was a young man and Obama was only 8 years old. He is now a professor at a respected American university, the University of Chicago. Does this mean that those who sit on the hiring board of this university are also traitors to your country? Or does this mean that William Ayres has in some fashion redeemed himself over the years? I am inclined to think that the second guess is more likely.

Also, I see nothing particularly wrong in Obama's association with this man or his rather unusual pastor. Your own Jesus Christ associated with quite an array of folk who could not be considered to fall into the mainstream of society at the time that He was alive. It is utterly idiotic (and grasping at straws) to consider Barack Obama a traitor merely through association.