I am curious - as of now - who you would like to see as President...

P.S. There is only an option to have 15 listed and there are 16 running.

Transformer, my point is that you aren't arguing about policies, you're speaking to the morals and ethics of one man but ignoring the morals and ethics of another. We better be trying to figure out how we can recapture the government as it was under Clinton rather than the one that we have now. If it means that the only way to accomplish that or something better, with this slate of politicians, is to elect Hillary, then so be it.

If you're saying you have no respect for the women that you listed, Jack, then I don't think any woman is going to make you happy. Maybe these women's politics are the opposite of yours. That would explain a lot about your view of women in charge. Is it really the fact that they are women or just that they are not conservative/right wing enough for you?

Derick it must be frightening to you to think that Black Americans may finally be able to unite behind someone who isn't white or a Republican. Blaming Democrats for keeping Blacks down in this country is what we expect the Republican machine and its' supporters. Yell it to the roof tops. We're onto you. It only makes you look insane and desperate.

My DH almost lost his life on the Snake River. Thank goodness for a lodged log.

Otherwise I'm certainly with you on your proposal to come up with solutions! Our problems may be the same or similar but our ideas for solutions are undoubtedly different. But right now I feel like that guy who is treed by a rabid dog - he says, "just shoot one of us, I gotta get some relief".

Derick it must be frightening to you to think that Black Americans may finally be able to unite behind someone who isn't white or a Republican. Blaming Democrats for keeping Blacks down in this country is what we expect the Republican machine and its' supporters. Yell it to the roof tops. We're onto you. It only makes you look insane and desperate.

wait...what? I thought it was rather pro-obama myself...:tt1:

what did I say that was not true?

Btw, at this point I don't even care who becomes president.

Watching both major parties and thier supporters come unglued is worth it.

damn double posts...

Derick, wait... what? You don't CARE who becomes our next president? Or you're supporting Barack Obama like you suggested above?

Eh, never mind. I'm more interested in what you posted over on the Large Penis thread. Necra what?

i never said i was supporting osama oop, I mean obama, I was just point out the fact that he is going against the democrat party battle plan. and I applaud him for it.

am i allowed to do that?

Welllllll, let me think.... yeah, sure, you can clap all you want. I'd never stand in the way of applause for anyone, unless it is Dubya. He doesn't deserve applause, he deserves a spanking. :tt1:

So let's solve our problems. Just admit YOUR problems and MINE may not be the same. Nor require the same answer. Therein lies the issue.

Doesn't that just say it all!!!!!!!!!!

My problem is I believe it's not the government's responsibility to solve people's problems.

I love you Jack!

I love you, too Derick!

GREAT posts, gentlemen!

The concept of letting someone else make such a decision about such a solution, is simply beyond my capacity....if it's my problem....I'll take care of it....

Amen. The problem we have in these United States these days is that everyone believes they are entitled to have others solve their problems for them.

Transformer, my point is that you aren't arguing about policies, you're speaking to the morals and ethics of one man but ignoring the morals and ethics of another.

It's not that I'm ignoring Bush's ethics. Since this thread is about who we WILL choose for president in 2008, Bush really doesn't figure into the equation...at all. We're supposed to be debating the current presidential candidates' policies (and insulting their hair). He's not running, so I'm not picking on his hair or his platform because his ethics have no bearing on the outcome of the upcoming election. This isn't the appropriate forum. We could always start a "What Bugs Me About Bush" thread if there isn't one already! Then we can rant away!

Jack--Sorry you didn't catch on that I was kidding around about my sister. If any of you have a sister who is the oldest, you know just what I mean! :tt1: She is actually an excellent leader (and not just by being bossy). And thanks for reminding everyone about Janet Reno, Waco and Ruby Ridge, etc....that's exactly my point. Things were not all sunshine and roses in the 90s. I'm not quite sure how those years get remembered so fondly...could it be that lots of people around the country "inhaled" too? LOL!

Gadgetlady--You are 100% on target--whatever happened to personal responsibility? That will be one of the cornerstones of my platform when I run for president. It's all beginning to take shape now!

And now, presenting the first in a series, Building Leadership Skills for Presidential Candidates, Lesson 1:

The number one requirement of any great leader is that they possess a strong moral compass. If they don't have that, it doesn't matter what any of their other policies are. Slimebuckets do not great leaders make! :mad:

Paid for by the Transformer for President campaign. :mad:

E.D.

"Electile Dysfunction": The inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.

E.D.

"Electile Dysfunction": The inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.

FANTASTIC!!!!!

Ok, ok transformer... I get it already. You are really trying to get us to believe that you're not concerned about anything Bush has done because there's no chance that by voting for a conservative Republican again we might get a continuation of the past 7 years. And that you are just concerned about what Bill did because we're not actually presented with a vote for Hillary as much as we would be voting to reinstate the morally corrupt Bill Clinton. That's brilliant. Why didn't I think of that?

You guys are great. You can solve all of your own problems and you aren't concerned with anyone else's which means that voting for a Democrat would mean that you'd be trying to solve all the world's ills - with big government - higher taxes - right?

Less government is going to take care of everything, I get it. Like under the Republican administration that we've had. They gave us a practically insignificant tax cut at one point, so woo, hoo! The government has grown since they've been in control. We've spent billions on a rag tag ill-conceived war and huge sums on taking care of the men and women who have died because of that war. We have another trillion dollar deficit - like we had the last time we had a Republican president. And we're staring a very nasty recession down the barrel. But hey, voting Republican means less government and more of our own earnings in our pockets. It'll mean that we can focus more on our own personal problems and less on the country's (other people's) problems. Yep, and I have some nice ocean front property in Arizona I'd like to sell you.