Hi! The nutrition guideline book from my doc has conflicting info so I'd love to hear from you fine folks!

Tortillas, toast, rolls, etc...when did you start eating those? Any tips?

TIA!

SW 255 on 6/19/17

My guide says avoid grains til two months out. I have had crackers and some pretzels when I feel like I need something that won't make me sick. I had surgery 5/8, so I have just a little longer but not sure I could eat more than 1/4 piece of toast.

Honestly? That's what got a lot of us this fat to begin with. I'm planning on avoiding those foods as much as I can til I'm in maintenance. They're trigger foods for me. My nutritionist/surgeon puts their patients on a strict low-carb, high-protein plan, and that seems to be the case for most bariatric patients, from my research.

I'm consigning them to history.

My Dad was a baker so this is a challenge but I know bread is a very particular weakness of mine, I mean when I've travelled round the world I have asked to go into the back of bakeries!

Adios doughboy!

I haven't enjoyed bread/carbs post-surgery like I did before my sleeve. It makes me feel bloated and it just doesn't taste as good either. My head still misses it but I'm learning to ignore it.

Oh gosh can't remember how soon (15 mos post-RNY) but the first nibble was a spicy tuna roll (6 pieces) of which I could only eat one. I removed the rice and just ate the spicy tuna. I can now eat an entire roll but it's pushing it. I never eat bread (too filling) potatoes and pasta sometimes but it's a difficult food to eat and I used to love these bad carbs.

9 months post op started having bread...just small amounts as it was filling. Now 2 years post op can eat a bagel and pasta.

Mine says no bread, pasta, tortillas or rice for one year.


Aka_ET

HW-220
Pre-op 194.3
RNY
SD June 16th 2017
CW-188
GW-140
HT 5' 3"
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"You may see me struggle but you will never see me quit"

I am 4 weeks out and now allowed 1/2 a piece of whole grain/whole wheat toast, 2 whole grain crackers, brown rice, quinoa and there is one more I can't remember. I am on what is considered a "soft diet" at this point. Carbs are not bad! We need carbs it's the kind of carbs you eat that makes the difference and causes weight gain. Everyone handles things differently though and some may not be able to eat these things and every plan is different. I'm good with the half slice of toast I don't feel full I don't feel sick I also eat it with an over easy egg on it for breakfast. So I am getting protein and fiber.


Danette
RNY-6/5/2017
HW 240
SW 230
CW 205

No one needs bread.

Breads are energy sources and contain nothing else we need.

If you need the energy and don't get it from other sources, fine.

I am four years out, three at goal and they are not a regular part of my diet.

Toast has very little fiber even whole wheat toast. Veggies have much more fiber. Fruit has fiber. Brown rice, quinoa, etc have a little bit of fiber.

Bread, tortillas, crackers, potatoes, white rice are negligible sources of fiber and have nothing else we NEED.

Can they be part of a healthy diet? Maybe, but saying we NEED them is wrong.

No one needs bread.

Breads are energy sources and contain nothing else we need.

If you need the energy and don't get it from other sources, fine.

I am four years out, three at goal and they are not a regular part of my diet.

Toast has very little fiber even whole wheat toast. Veggies have much more fiber. Fruit has fiber. Brown rice, quinoa, etc have a little bit of fiber.

Bread, tortillas, crackers, potatoes, white rice are negligible sources of fiber and have nothing else we NEED.

Can they be part of a healthy diet? Maybe, but saying we NEED them is wrong.

Mmm reading comprehension does wonders. I didn't say you NEED bread I said you need carbs, not tons of carbs, but you do need energy to sustain life. Sure you can get carbs from fruits and veggies too, but where I am at I cannot have those yet, but my dr allows whole wheat while grain toast. Actually the fiber is not negligible and what I eat also has protein in it! I eat flat out and it's pretty good stuff. Bread is not evil, bread doesn't make you fat, it's over consumption and poor choices. I never said everyone needs bread because bread is life. I said that bread isn't bad, carbs aren't bad. If you have an issue with it then yeah maybe rethink eating it. I also never said anything about cracker, tortillas, potatoes or anything else you said. Bread can contain other things you NEED if you are choosing the proper source and again not over indulging in these sources.


Danette
RNY-6/5/2017
HW 240
SW 230
CW 205

Mmm reading comprehension does wonders. I didn't say you NEED bread I said you need carbs, not tons of carbs, but you do need energy to sustain life. Sure you can get carbs from fruits and veggies too, but where I am at I cannot have those yet, but my dr allows whole wheat while grain toast. Actually the fiber is not negligible and what I eat also has protein in it! I eat flat out and it's pretty good stuff. Bread is not evil, bread doesn't make you fat, it's over consumption and poor choices. I never said everyone needs bread because bread is life. I said that bread isn't bad, carbs aren't bad. If you have an issue with it then yeah maybe rethink eating it. I also never said anything about cracker, tortillas, potatoes or anything else you said. Bread can contain other things you NEED if you are choosing the proper source and again not over indulging in these sources.


Danette
RNY-6/5/2017
HW 240
SW 230
CW 205

No but you said one needed carbs and the OP was asking about bread/rolls/tortillas specifically.

You also suggested you got your fiber from toast.

So I was elaborating for the sake of the OP so she didn't get the idea she needed the carbs she asked about and to help her understand toast wasn't a good way to get fiber in her diet.

You do you! I'm just replying to her!

I would like to see the label of your bread showing it has a lot of fiber in half a slice. And by a lot, I mean more than 3-4 grams.

I didn't say it was evil I said you didn't need it. Now who is having reading comprehension trouble?

And I will admit I'm surprised your surgeon allows you toast before applesauce or yogurt, both sources of carbs.

But as I said you do you!

Ok, I'm gonna apologize, I reacted quickly because you were rude and insulting. I stand by what I said, but...

Flat out isn't what I call toast, so I will admit when you said toast I figured you meant bread since that's what the poster asked about.

Anyhow, I will argue that we don't need any refined carbs for a good six months. I never said they were evil but I would argue that no one needs REFINED carbs.

But flat out is better than most.

Still, its refined and we don't need it, there are better choices.

Awfully high REFINED carb for my diet, and not a significant source of river, even now at goal where I have been for three years. And I run 15-20 miles per week and do 4-5 hours of yoga class per week. These are the 100% whole wheat and 100% whole wheat "light"...

Wow that's a lot of running!! You must be in amazing shape. Good for you finding what works for you and maintaining for 3 years!

Since someone asked, I eat double fiber wheat bread, which 4 grams per slice. So there CAN be somewhat high-fiber bread. Not exactly sure if/when/how much I'll be eating of that after surgery, though, and certainly during the losing phase I won't make it a staple or priority.

My surgeon's dietitian recommends a normal healthy diet with (obviously) a focus on protein. I know a lot of surgeons recommend a keto-like diet and I'm very thankful mine does not. I don't see a reason why healthy foods like beans, fruit, and whole grains have to be cut out completely and put in the mental "bad!" category as if they're the same as a candy bar.