You put in the time.

You put in the money.

You go to all the appointments and you jump through all the hoops.

You do the pre-op diet.

You have the surgery.

You cared enough about yourself to make the commitment to WLS and you physically and permanently alter your body...


And then you get mad because someone tells you not to eat the d@mn taco? Not to drink alcohol or soda 2.783 days after surgery? To put down the freaking pizza'? To stop eating bread/rice/pasta/bananas/hoagies/20oz steaks TEMPORARILY while your body heals and you get to your goal weight? To actually stick to YOUR doctor's plan?

Even better, you get mad when they only do so AFTER you ASKED????

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE?

Yes. I'd guess most of us have head hunger and cravings. I'd guess most of us had a nibble or sip of something off plan. I've no doubt that most of us were not 100% compliant 100% of the time. But I'd also guess that those of us who have done this, gotten to goal weight and stayed there have been compliant the majority of the time. I'd also guess that many of us who have been successful would appreciate a swift kick in the rear if/when we ask a question I bet we already know the answer to.

It's not rocket science and this isn't Romper Room. Make good choices, stick to your doctor's orders or don't, but don't get mad if you fail to get the results you want when you refuse to do what you are supposed to do. And don't get mad when someone tells you that what you are putting in your mouth isn't the best idea in the world even though you want it right now.

Value yourself more than that. Seriously.

@@rolosmom7

There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.

I have lost almost 100 pounds during my six-month pre-op diet. I haven't even had the surgery yet. It is Wednesday. I have certainly not been on any "prisoner of war" diet, but I have been incredibly focused on my journey, re-establishing my relationship with food, and improving my health.

I, too, read of these insane posts where people can't even work to improve their situation for a few hours, let alone long term. But it is what it is, so I never comment. This surgery next week is a tool that will help me to continue my journey, but it isn't the whole journey. I am DAMN proud of what I have accomplished, and just because the loss has been swift doesn't mean that it is unhealthy.

Edited September 23, 20169 yr by blizair09

@@rolosmom7

There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.

You are a MAN though. You guys wake up from surgery down 30lbs and feeling great!

Soooooo damn true!!! We get it all- periods, bloating, pregnancy, menopause. The only thing we have over men? When they wake up ugly they are stuck at ugly. We have the luxury of makeup. Oh wait. That sucks too- costs money and always needs to be replaced. Forget that one.

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I'd like to throw in my two cents also and say that I too owe a lot to @@LipstickLady for my success so far. I mean, why wouldn't I listen to the advice of someone who lost all their weight AND has managed to keep it off? I would have been crazy not to!

Oh, and she's actually a pretty nice person, too. I know that's hard for some people to believe.

@@rolosmom7

There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.

I have lost almost 100 pounds during my six-month pre-op diet. I haven't even had the surgery yet. It is Wednesday. I have certainly not been on any "prisoner of war" diet, but I have been incredibly focused on my journey, re-establishing my relationship with food, and improving my health.

I, too, read of these insane posts where people can't even work to improve their situation for a few hours, let alone long term. But it is what it is, so I never comment. This surgery next week is a tool that will help me continue my journey, but it isn't the whole journey. I am DAMN proud of what I have accomplished, and I just because the loss has been swift doesn't mean that it is unhealthy.

You are a man, you lost 100 lbs it in 6 months, that is only 16 pounds a month, or barely over 4% a month (which is a normal amount to lose, people lose that on dietbet) , you started at almost 400 lbs, super morbidly obese.

That isn't the same as a middle aged 5'2 female going from 250 to 150 in 4 or 5 months post-op after not eating anything at all but Water and crystal light for weeks.

So my comments stand, they don't apply to you, and you didn't even bother applying any kind of critical thinking to what I said before jumping in to defend yourself when it didn't even apply to you. If you really even comprehended what I said in the first place you would have never commented.

Atleast @ could use that Big 10 Education (Go Illini) to know it isn't about him.

Congrats on your weight loss so far.

Does anyone know how I can unsubscribe to this mess of drama so my emails are not getting blown up??? I know it's off topic and I apologize but I want out of this drama of a mess.

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And yet here you are, in this very thread to exclaim your distaste for "OMG DRAMA". Your concern is duly noted.

@@rolosmom7

There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.

I have lost almost 100 pounds during my six-month pre-op diet. I haven't even had the surgery yet. It is Wednesday. I have certainly not been on any "prisoner of war" diet, but I have been incredibly focused on my journey, re-establishing my relationship with food, and improving my health.

I, too, read of these insane posts where people can't even work to improve their situation for a few hours, let alone long term. But it is what it is, so I never comment. This surgery next week is a tool that will help me continue my journey, but it isn't the whole journey. I am DAMN proud of what I have accomplished, and I just because the loss has been swift doesn't mean that it is unhealthy.

You are a man, you lost 100 lbs it in 6 months, that is only 16 pounds a month, or barely over 4% a month (which is a normal amount to lose, people lose that on dietbet) , you started at almost 400 lbs, super morbidly obese.

That isn't the same as a middle aged 5'2 female going from 250 to 150 in 4 or 5 months post-op after not eating anything at all but Water and crystal light for weeks.

So my comments stand, they don't apply to you, and you didn't even bother applying any kind of critical thinking to what I said before jumping in to defend yourself when it didn't even apply to you. If you really even comprehended what I said in the first place you would have never commented.

Atleast @ could use that Big 10 Education (Go Illini) to know it isn't about him.

Congrats on your weight loss so far.

Damn straight! I'm a man and a Spartan.

Spartans Will! Go Green!

Haha.

@@Babbs

I love how people that hate drama are always the most dramatic. Irony.

@@rolosmom7

There are a ton of people that post here that lost a ton of weight really fast because they were basically on a prisoner of war diet and they starved for weeks/months. Long term that is going to do them more damage than good, so yeah its awesome they lost 100 pounds in 4 months or whatever, but they aren't telling they went through to get there, just that they got there.

LOL. I lost 102 lbs in the first 4 months. But just for the record, I did it being 99.99% compliant with my doctors instructions (ok, so I did have a couple of potatoes chips once or twice). I wouldn't consider it a "prisoner of war" diet. But your comment did make me laugh.

I have lost almost 100 pounds during my six-month pre-op diet. I haven't even had the surgery yet. It is Wednesday. I have certainly not been on any "prisoner of war" diet, but I have been incredibly focused on my journey, re-establishing my relationship with food, and improving my health.

I, too, read of these insane posts where people can't even work to improve their situation for a few hours, let alone long term. But it is what it is, so I never comment. This surgery next week is a tool that will help me continue my journey, but it isn't the whole journey. I am DAMN proud of what I have accomplished, and I just because the loss has been swift doesn't mean that it is unhealthy.

You are a man, you lost 100 lbs it in 6 months, that is only 16 pounds a month, or barely over 4% a month (which is a normal amount to lose, people lose that on dietbet) , you started at almost 400 lbs, super morbidly obese.

That isn't the same as a middle aged 5'2 female going from 250 to 150 in 4 or 5 months post-op after not eating anything at all but Water and crystal light for weeks.

So my comments stand, they don't apply to you, and you didn't even bother applying any kind of critical thinking to what I said before jumping in to defend yourself when it didn't even apply to you. If you really even comprehended what I said in the first place you would have never commented.

Atleast @ could use that Big 10 Education (Go Illini) to know it isn't about him.

Congrats on your weight loss so far.

Illini are you???

We shall keep the Big 10 rolling--- me- NU

Husband- MSU

Oldest son -Iowa

So, go B10! Lol

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@@Babbs

I love how people that hate drama are always the most dramatic. Irony.

I know, right?!

Ever heard the saying "Thou protest too much?"

Yeah. They LOVE it.

@@Babbs

I love how people that hate drama are always the most dramatic. Irony.

They just hate drama that they haven't created. I mean, how dare other people get attention!

"When all is said and done, usually more has been said than done. "

@@rolosmom7

Congrats on your weight loss so far.

Damn straight! I'm a man and a Spartan.

Spartans Will! Go Green!

Haha.

Go White! Sparty on!

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I'd like to throw in my two cents also and say that I too owe a lot to @@LipstickLady for my success so far. I mean, why wouldn't I listen to the advice of someone who lost all their weight AND has managed to keep it off? I would have been crazy not to!

Oh, and she's actually a pretty nice person, too. I know that's hard for some people to believe.

You're ok, I guess. Xxoo

@@Fredbear

Exactly.

So if even one person can be reached and jolted back into their new reality of WLS, FABULOUS. That's why I waste my time.

Same here, but there are those whose posts I read and reread as I decide whether I might get through. It's also got to do with my mood of the day and whether I think I'd manage to be patient on paper.

@@LipstickLady @@WLSResources/ClothingExch

I honestly don't know how you stick around and deal with this ****.....

It's your great big eyes peering out from the tiny circle that keep me riveted here. Also you smarts and humor.

Another rant about "stupid and uneducated" users? Really? Doesn't it get a bit old already?

I don't know who you are quoting there, but it isn't about stupidity or lack of education. It's about digging one's heels in and screaming, "I don't want to make any changes. I refuse to make changes. I'll hate anyone who suggests that I make changes, whether it's someone in BP or my surgery practice." If my allotted time weren't up, I'd spell it out further.