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Talked to my doc today cause I had for turn in food journals for other reasons. My 3 week stall lasted for 4 weeks (and begun a week early), then 10lbs came off over 3 weeks and I'm stalled again... Anyway, I asked that since I'm 2 months out and on a regular food diet (yay! No more purréd or soft!)... About the diet, if I'd be able to have even half a glass of wine with friends or anything. He reiterated the very hard NO, and insisted I attend an AA meeting since it's the 2nd or 3rd time I've asked since pre-op.

No I'm not an addict, and it's not that big of a deal anymore I guess. It's not that I'm thirsty for a drink necessarily, but knowing I can't have something ever again is messing with my head. (Yet I was fine giving up ice cream, sweets, and 99% of fast food) maybe I do need that AA meeting... Even though I'd drink maybe 3 times a year.

Edit: reading this back, damn I'm tired and ADD is running high. Don't care enough to fix the post though.

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Talked to my doc today cause I had for turn in food journals for other reasons. My 3 week stall lasted for 4 weeks (and begun a week early), then 10lbs came off over 3 weeks and I'm stalled again... Anyway, I asked that since I'm 2 months out and on a regular food diet (yay! No more purréd or soft!)... About the diet, if I'd be able to have even half a glass of wine with friends or anything. He reiterated the very hard NO, and insisted I attend an AA meeting since it's the 2nd or 3rd time I've asked since pre-op.

No I'm not an addict, and it's not that big of a deal anymore I guess. It's not that I'm thirsty for a drink necessarily, but knowing I can't have something ever again is messing with my head. (Yet I was fine giving up ice cream, sweets, and 99% of fast food) maybe I do need that AA meeting... Even though I'd drink maybe 3 times a year.

Edit: reading this back, damn I'm tired and ADD is running high. Don't care enough to fix the post though.

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Unless you're drinking lots of wine each of those three times a year, I seriously doubt you need an AA meeting.

I don't know what your surgeon was thinking when he said that, except that some surgeons are adamant about no alcohol, period. For all either of us know, he had a patient (or more than one) who developed alcohol problems after surgery.

I also know at two months out (I was seven weeks yesterday), what messes with our collective heads is that we are still getting used to our new normal. Portions are still so tiny that one-item meals are still the rule rather than the exception, and we're still riding with our training wheels, so to speak. There is a real thirst to know what three-six-nine months out is going to look like, in purely practical terms.

Refrain from asking your surgeon about wine again. You'll only get the same answer.

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Don't they eat a ton of crap and smoke like chimneys at AA meetings? You'd be better off having your glass of wine! ;-).

I think your surgeon needs to lighten up. If you were an alcoholic I doubt you'd be asking for permission at all.

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Don't they eat a ton of crap and smoke like chimneys at AA meetings? You'd be better off having your glass of wine! ;-).

I think your surgeon needs to lighten up. If you were an alcoholic I doubt you'd be asking for permission at all.

I thought the same thing! However I think I'll just follow his original advice and stay away from wine and mixed drinks permanently.

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AA?

Jeez.

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@@Stevehud I think your projecting your inner issues on other people here. Maybe you failed at some point and your trying to help others by giving advice- but you may want to consider using your words more wisely. It comes across as sarcastic, and just plain rude. This is a support community first and foremost.

I have tons to say about this topic but I am not even going to entertain this thread- especially when it's being ruled by one individuals comments, who appears to think he's some type of weight loss God.

Good luck in your journey everyone!

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Wow, everyone needs to take a chill pill. I don't know about most of you, but I became fat because I ate like a pig! Probably 4000 cal per day, not form the drink or two I had. It was the chicken wings, the burgers, the extremely large portions, etc, that caused me to gain weight. I had WSL because I could not control my eatiing! Now my portions are tiny, i concentrate on Protein, and I have a drink every so often, but not nearly as much as before, ( just don't like it as much). I keep it below 12-1400 cal per day and the weight is just coming off. My doc said everything in moderation, including alcohol, although beer doesn't work. Everybody has their own path to follow, and for those of you who choose not to drink, I applaud you, but for those of us that choose to drink, enjoy and Celebrate your new life style. I didn't have WSL to drink proein shakes the rest of my life!!

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Wow, everyone needs to take a chill pill. I don't know about most of you, but I became fat because I ate like a pig! Probably 4000 cal per day, not form the drink or two I had. It was the chicken wings, the burgers, the extremely large portions, etc, that caused me to gain weight. I had WSL because I could not control my eatiing! Now my portions are tiny, i concentrate on Protein, and I have a drink every so often, but not nearly as much as before, ( just don't like it as much). I keep it below 12-1400 cal per day and the weight is just coming off. My doc said everything in moderation, including alcohol, although beer doesn't work. Everybody has their own path to follow, and for those of you who choose not to drink, I applaud you, but for those of us that choose to drink, enjoy and Celebrate your new life style. I didn't have WSL to drink proein shakes the rest of my life!!

I heart chill pills...lol

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Wow, everyone needs to take a chill pill. I don't know about most of you, but I became fat because I ate like a pig! Probably 4000 cal per day, not form the drink or two I had. It was the chicken wings, the burgers, the extremely large portions, etc, that caused me to gain weight. I had WSL because I could not control my eatiing! Now my portions are tiny, i concentrate on Protein, and I have a drink every so often, but not nearly as much as before, ( just don't like it as much). I keep it below 12-1400 cal per day and the weight is just coming off. My doc said everything in moderation, including alcohol, although beer doesn't work. Everybody has their own path to follow, and for those of you who choose not to drink, I applaud you, but for those of us that choose to drink, enjoy and Celebrate your new life style. I didn't have WSL to drink proein shakes the rest of my life!!

yes this is just a temporary thing, you wont have to change your diet for the rest of your life. Im going to make one more post after i ask you What the heck did you think this was? a diet?

NO its for the rest of your life! ask anyone here who has been successful if they still drink Protein Shakes, i guarantee you 99% will say yes, and thats 5 years post surgery. You think you just lose some weight then everything is great and easy? You really have a lot of planning to do.

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So to all on here. After your honeymoon period ends. Youll look back at this time longingly. When you hit maintenance or just further along and the weight loss stops and its time to incorporate more food and yet keep your weight down, you will understand a little better what im trying to say here folks. If you think its this easy further down the road you dont understand why a large percentage of bariatric patients fail..

If you think im being mean or sarcastic, then I have succeeded, because this isnt a joke. this isnt weight watchers where you can just stop and start up again anytime.

This is for your life ladies and gentlemen and if you dont want to use this to beat obesity., then You're right you shouldn't listen, dont throw out your fat clothes, you may just need them again.

You want BS hand holding and coddling? sorry, not when it comes to stupid calories. You want help, use this to beat the bastard that is obesity.

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Thank you all for the responses and being honest. I really appreciate it. I was a beer drinker but will not be drinking that anymore because of the carbonation. If I do decide to drink I'm pretty sure it's going to be white wine. Thanks again.

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I was a beer drinker, but I'm switching to Crystal light and vodka. I tried it before surgery and liked it. You can take your little individual packets with you to go out to eat, parties etc. One shot vodka in a tall glass with ice Water, then I put my Crystal light in stir and wow! No carbs, in vodka or Crystal light. No carbonation, only 60 empty calories. One lasted me the whole evening.

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You guys are lucky, my surgeon told me no more alcohol, ever. Not 6 weeks out, not 6 months out, never.

I had told him about a couple trips I have coming up and how I wanted to reach my goal before them if possible. He'd asked if I drank, which the answer was yes... Occasionally... He said never again. Didn't ask what, but completely shut it down instead.

Sorry for the rant, but even though I don't drink often, to have the option taken away was a surprise.

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Every doc is different.

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i think you should definitely drink, and eat cake and candy and french fries, heck just give in before you even start, alcohol is all sugar , very high in calories, hits you 7 times harder than it used to, and you have an incredibly higher chance of becoming an alcoholic as well. All in all, those are great reasons to just fail. Why bother dieting, come on, just eat a cake or two, i mean you dont really have to change your life, just diet for a little while then go back and eat like you used to. No one ever fails at this.

Drink up ! enjoy!

That's a little extreme.

I drink beer, whiskey and coke, vodka and diet cranberry and various other adult beverages. I am three years out in May and maintaining fine.

(I also eat cake, candy and an occasional french fry.)

Alcohol doesn't hit me "seven times harder" (can you show me the science behind that?) and I am not an alcoholic.

Just because one was a former fatty, does not mean they've lost all sense of self control when it comes to alcohol.

My advice? Follow your surgeon's direction, try your beverage of choice at home the first few times to see how it hits you and tread lightly. Make good choices and if you choose to drink, don't drive.

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... when you hit your goal and keep it off then please feel free to show what people.can and cant do. when you reach goal if you can make thi work and eat a few bites of cake, well good for you, thats awesome...

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Yes, yes it is. ;) I'm awesome.

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