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Embrace the Stall

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It seems that at least 50% of the posts on BariatriPal are bemoaning a stall. Daily, and sometimes hourly, I am reading about how someone ONLY lost x number of pounds and now the scale hasn't moved in ___ [fill in the blank] days/months, etc. Oh no, they write, I am a failure/unique/my surgery didn't work/life is not fair, ... Why am I in a stall?

I know I am exaggerating but I think you get the idea.

Guess what? STALLS are a NORMAL part of the PROCESS of losing weight. If you want to lose weight, you will stall. Not just once, but over and over. And, guess what? A stall is where your body actually does the hard work of becoming smaller. It takes a lot of work and energy to dismantle a structure that has been holding up, in some cases, hundreds of pounds.

For those who think they have to DO something to somehow "break a stall" (in my opinion, you do not break a stall, you just ride them out), here is my response:

What can you do to "break" a stall?

1) STAY OFF THE SCALE

Relax and stay off the scale if it bothers you so much. Weigh no more than once a week, or even less often. Weighing only at your doctor's appointments early in the process is a good strategy if your mood and self-worth are dictated by the numbers on the scale.

2) PICK UP A TAPE MEASURE

In addition to using the numbers on the scale to measure your progress, take your measurements. Inches lost are also a great way to see physical progress when the scale isn't moving. Most people see the biggest physical changes in their body when the scale seems stuck.

3) TRACK YOUR PROTEIN AND WATER AND MEET OR EXCEED YOUR PROTEIN AND WATER GOAL EVERY DAY

As long as you are getting in all your protein and water and following your NUT and surgeon's instructions, you are doing what you are supposed to do.

If you aren't getting in all your protein and water, then increasing your protein and water is something you can do (and should be doing anyway whether or not you are in a stall).

4) EXERCISE

If you aren't exercising, then you can exercise (and should be whether or not you are in a stall). You can start slowly by walking or even moving more around the house. Exercising will help you feel better, tone your skin and build fat-burning muscle.

5) MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOUR NUT

If you are unsure or unclear about what you are supposed to be, or should not be eating, then make an appointment with your NUT (which you should be doing whether or not you are in a stall).

6) REASSESS AND REEVALUATE

About the only good result I see that comes from complaining about a stall is when you take an honest look at what you are doing and realign with the program recommended by your NUT and surgeon. Have you started eating more outside of your plan? Are you restricting calories? Are you eating enough carbs and protein for your exercise? Are you taking your vitamins? Are you eating often enough? Are you eating slowly with protein first? Sometimes, all you need to DO is go back to basics.

7) JOURNAL

One of the biggest things I have noticed from the various posts is how anxious and out-of-control some people feel when they notice a stall. Journaling can help you gain some perspective and deal with some of the emotional turmoil.

-- Write about how you are feeling about the stall and your weight loss, and surgery in general.

-- Write about why you had the surgery in the first place.

-- Write about what life was like before surgery.

-- Write about what you hope and dream about accomplishing in the future.

-- Write about your fears.

-- Write about your NSVs.

-- Make a gratitude list.

-- Make a bucket list.

-- Write a letter to your old self; write a letter to your new self.

Just write.

8) SEEK HELP

Stalls are when too many people seem to revert to old, counterproductive dieting behaviors (restricting calories, over exercising, bingeing, etc.). If this is you, then another thing you can DO is to talk to a counselor or therapist or consider joining a bariatric support group or a twelve-step group like Overeater's Anonymous.

The discomfort of being in a stall can also drive people to develop new, unhealthy coping habits or even transfer addictions. This is where you want to marshall all the resources you have available to you and use them.

The last, and most important thing you can DO is:

9) EMBRACE THE STALL

Stalls are a normal and natural part of the process.

Our bodies are complex systems and not simple machines.

Stalls go hand-in-hand with weight loss.

If you had Weight Loss Surgery, then you probably want to lose a significant amount of weight. So, get ready to embrace the many stalls you will experience as your body is transformed. It will be worth it.

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My target according to my booklet is 50 to 70 grams of Protein a day. I see a lot of people here are doing like 90 so I try to hit the higher limit. I think my dr may be more restrictive that what I see posted as I am to stick to 600 calories a day unless working out aggressively until I hit my goal weight. I have a 40 lb 3 month goal and I do not see how I will achieve that at this rate. But who knows, the stall may lift and the pounds may melt off starting next week

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  • goplay94123 Your target is even higher then mine. My Dr insists on 41 grams of Protein. I also wonder how I am suppose to meet my 90 pounds in 6 months when protein is so low. I don't understand why this year I am seeing so many more people posting that they have lower protein ranges than what people who had surgery last year have as a range.
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  • goplay94123 Your target is even higher then mine. My Dr insists on 41 grams of Protein. I also wonder how I am suppose to meet my 90 pounds in 6 months when protein is so low. I don't understand why this year I am seeing so many more people posting that they have lower protein ranges than what people who had surgery last year have as a range.

For some reason I couldn't see this post until I quoted it. Did you use a funky font or something?

For some reason when I copied and pasted the Id my words afterward came out as they did. I didn't do anything to make it that way, that I know of.

My target according to my booklet is 50 to 70 grams of Protein a day. I see a lot of people here are doing like 90 so I try to hit the higher limit. I think my dr may be more restrictive that what I see posted as I am to stick to 600 calories a day unless working out aggressively until I hit my goal weight. I have a 40 lb 3 month goal and I do not see how I will achieve that at this rate. But who knows, the stall may lift and the pounds may melt off starting next week

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What are your surgron's long term success rates ? Do his patients keep their weight off 3-5+ years out? The reason I ask is IMO he is giving bad advice. You are going to totally screw up your metabolism if you stay at 600 calories until you hit goal. That could be many many months, even years. You will be a very slow loser because your body is in chronic starvation mode. You will be malnourished in some category because you can't possibly consume enough needed nutrients (including fruits and veggies) and stay under 600 calories for that long. Not to mention the mental strain of trying to adhere to such a restrictive diet plan.

Then when you do finally reach goal maintenance could be hell. Your metabolism will be used to functioning at such a low pace that any increase in calories will lead to regain.

Another observation....40 pounds in 3 months is a huge expectation. At your starting weight that seems a little excessive. I had lost 17 pounds at 3 months. My calories were up to 800 by then and at 1000 by 6 months. Slow but steady worked great for me and I've been able to maintain my 100% excess weight loss for a year and a half at 1400-1600 calories because I never starved myself.

Just saying if you aren't finding great success in your surgeon's plan, you may want to explore other options.

goplay94123

I mostly agree with what Kindle said. I rarely recommend anyone go against their Doctors orders but the surgery you had is a tool. Why diet? Who of us were successful with starvation diets? Maybe you misunderstood his intentions? Could you be mixing up his short term post-op orders with long term?

600 calories/day would be painful for me even shortly after my surgery. Maybe painful is overstated? Maybe extreme discomfort? At any rate, you might want to consult with your nutritionist/dietician and make sure you understand the plan your doctor has set out for you?

tmf

I plan to ask the nutritionist when she is back from maternity leave. I assume my dr knows what he is talking about as he and his ex partner speak at many conferences and when you look up who pioneered VSG his name is mentioned most. Right now I am having a hard time reaching even 600 calories. I never feel hungry so I guess I should eat more meals in between even if I am not hungry. Thanks for all of the feedback and advise. If I don't start losing I may up my calories to 800 and see. I am just starting to really work out this week so u need to increase them anyway. I am excited to start adding in some veggies and fruit. Today is the first day!!!

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Yes, there are dozens of ways to be successful with WLS and just because your surgeon's plan is so much different than what worked for me doesn't mean it's wrong. I apologize for any disrespect. Just keep in mind that this is YOUR journey and you can work it any way that gives you the results you are looking for.

And don't be disappointed if you aren't reaching some of those deadlines for "X" number of pounds lost by "Y" date. I just see too many people get depressed and self sabotage when those sometimes excessive goals aren't met.

my doc has my Protein at 60 mgs or higher... no more then 95 ever as that is toxic. So When I saw the higher numbers I was getting concerned. I have lost 114 pounds or so now... But I literally only eat meats and Beans.. nuts and a bit of cheese and once in awhile when I get a craving I will have a small bit of potato... cole slaw... something to break up the tastes... I lost weight fairly fast according to doc... So eating what I am eating must be working... I need to start exercising again/. Moved from Utah to Idaho falls... and that took a lot out of me... to be fair moving is not sitting arund business... and we also had to rehab and paint etc still doing that part actually done with the living room kitchen and one bathroom... have one bathroom and 3 bedrooms to go :D

@Kindle... I took all of your feedback in the spirit it was provided and i appreciate it!!


@Kindle... I took all of your feedback in the spirit it was provided and i appreciate it!!


@Kindle... I took all of your feedback in the spirit it was provided and i appreciate it!!

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my doc has my Protein at 60 mgs or higher... no more then 95 ever as that is toxic. So When I saw the higher numbers I was getting concerned. I have lost 114 pounds or so now... But I literally only eat meats and Beans.. nuts and a bit of cheese and once in awhile when I get a craving I will have a small bit of potato... cole slaw... something to break up the tastes... I lost weight fairly fast according to doc... So eating what I am eating must be working... I need to start exercising again/. Moved from Utah to Idaho falls... and that took a lot out of me... to be fair moving is not sitting arund business... and we also had to rehab and paint etc still doing that part actually done with the living room kitchen and one bathroom... have one bathroom and 3 bedrooms to go :D

I hope you meant grams and not milligrams.

Follow your surgeon's instructions for your situation. It sounds like you are doing great.

I would have to disagree that more than 95 grams of protein is toxic for most people, though.

My minimum is 100 grams a day and it is working for me so far.

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I think it's time to bump this thread again. For all the new folks:

Stalls are a normal, natural, and necessary part of the process of losing weight. Boone loses at a constant or steady rate. Everyone stalls periodically, and most of us stall about three weeks after surgery.

my doc has my Protein at 60 mgs or higher... no more then 95 ever as that is toxic. So When I saw the higher numbers I was getting concerned. I have lost 114 pounds or so now... But I literally only eat meats and Beans.. nuts and a bit of cheese and once in awhile when I get a craving I will have a small bit of potato... cole slaw... something to break up the tastes... I lost weight fairly fast according to doc... So eating what I am eating must be working... I need to start exercising again/. Moved from Utah to Idaho falls... and that took a lot out of me... to be fair moving is not sitting arund business... and we also had to rehab and paint etc still doing that part actually done with the living room kitchen and one bathroom... have one bathroom and 3 bedrooms to go :D

I hope you meant grams and not milligrams.

Follow your surgeon's instructions for your situation. It sounds like you are doing great.

I would have to disagree that more than 95 grams of protein is toxic for most people, though.

My minimum is 100 grams a day and it is working for me so far.

Yeah Grams I must have hit a button ... I have moments now... tired a lot... more then normal but docs said all my Vitamins are good and its normal since my body is burning the fat so quickly... faster than average I was told...

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